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oh no, wheres the genius, the spark. cant do without genius, spark, in my football
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 14:20 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 14:41 |
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If you don't like Iceland you're a terrorist.
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 14:21 |
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Gigi Galli posted:If you don't like Iceland you're a terrorist. not emptyquoting This World Cup won't end well for Serbia if they keep being this wasteful. Edit: Wrong thread for the second part Torrannor fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jun 17, 2018 |
# ? Jun 17, 2018 14:32 |
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Iceland own. What are they supposed to do, try and play fluid attacking football with a population of 4 and a dentist for a manager? They'd get picked apart by bigger teams and lose 5-0. They play exactly the way they should play, play to their strengths and neutralize their opponents, and they're a really good team as a result. And also anyone saying they don't attack or have any creativity is basing that on like 20 minutes at the end of yesterday's match, they had some really nice creative attacking play and scored a good goal in the first half.
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 14:35 |
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but off-brand slavoj zizek apparently had something to say about the genius and spark idk
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 14:37 |
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*yells about triangles in russian while cramming whole turkey leg into my mouth*
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 15:03 |
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Sekenr posted:Iceland thread was gassed but goddamn did russian commenter Vasiliy Utkin thrown utter truthbombs about Iceland. They are not there to play football they are here to ruin football for others. There is no genius or spark, they figured out a way to be roadbump for everybody else and retardedly stick to that because they are unable to create anything else.
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 15:11 |
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FullLeatherJacket posted:*yells about triangles in russian while cramming whole turkey leg into my mouth* Lol
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 18:19 |
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FullLeatherJacket posted:*yells about triangles in russian while cramming whole turkey leg into my mouth*
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 18:21 |
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it s coming home
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 18:53 |
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Sekenr posted:Iceland thread was gassed but goddamn did russian commenter Vasiliy Utkin thrown utter truthbombs about Iceland. They are not there to play football they are here to ruin football for others. There is no genius or spark, they figured out a way to be roadbump for everybody else and retardedly stick to that because they are unable to create anything else. Good, I hope they 1-1 their way to winning the whole loving thing.
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 19:20 |
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rear end cobra posted:off-brand slavoj zizek Lmao
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 19:38 |
All the good teams are frauds.
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 20:57 |
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CyberPingu posted:All the good teams are frauds. Brazil is a bad team
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 20:57 |
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This World Cup owns so far
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 21:02 |
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Butterfly Valley posted:This World Cup owns so far very much so
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 21:13 |
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England are going to win the World Cup imo
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 21:29 |
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sebzilla posted:England are going to win the World Cup imo Pretty sure it's gonna be Iceland who mysteriously succomb to polonioum poisoning as a result
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# ? Jun 17, 2018 21:34 |
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International football is always low quality, but why are this year's squads particularly bad? Usually the squads are impressive on paper but disappointing on the pitch; this year even the paper is crap (though the matches have been entertaining for the schadenfreude). Is it because the past decade has had a glut of marginal young players who never got good?
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 01:31 |
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I think we'll see the squads get better as the tournament goes on. There are always some hiccups, though it is amazing that literally every one of the "favorites" has had a poo poo time of it. Even though France won they still looked terrible doing it. There are plenty of players that are amazing for their clubs that have not really shown up I think. I don't the the talent is any worse, if anything there's more of it to go around.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 01:35 |
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Russia have actually looked like the best squad in the tournament so far which is very funny.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 01:37 |
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Patrice Evra is being criticized for applauding good analysis by a woman. The world has gone loving mad. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/17/pundit-challenged-over-clapping-female-hosts-world-cup-analysis
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 01:49 |
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Shrapnig posted:Russia have actually looked like the best squad in the tournament so far which is very funny. They played Saudi Arabia my dude
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 01:56 |
I don't think he needs to be pilloried for it, but it seems pretty condescending.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 01:58 |
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:They played Saudi Arabia my dude That doesn't mean they didn't look like a cohesive side that has literally been training together for years because they didn't have to qualify my buff gay dude. They're definitely bad but they looked good.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 02:15 |
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Shrapnig posted:Patrice Evra is being criticized for applauding good analysis by a woman. He certainly doesn’t need to be crucified for it, but literally clapping is a bit condescending, even if he’s being genuine.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 02:18 |
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Gigi Galli posted:I don't the the talent is any worse, if anything there's more of it to go around. Oh, really? I'm surprised by that. I don't watch as much football as TRP regulars, but what's struck me is how anonymous the squads seem to be. In the past I've been familiar with 8 or 9 of the starting 11 for the European and South American teams. This year it's more like 2 per side* - Ronaldo and Pepe for Portugal, Messi and Aguero for Argentina, Griezmann and Pogba for France - the rest of their players seem either disparaged or unheralded. I guess Spain and Germany are less anonymous since they are 80% Barca/Real/Bayern, but those sides also seem bad, now! *plus some comedy players who I know are bad like Otamendi, Di Maria, Quaresma, Giroud
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 02:23 |
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santanotreal posted:He certainly doesn’t need to be crucified for it, but literally clapping is a bit condescending, even if he’s being genuine. it really isn't. I'm sure it was perceived as either applause or banter between the pundits/athletes who were there, including the woman who has been capped 100 times for England. The internet and social media is a cesspool of overreaction.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 02:26 |
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runoverbobby posted:Oh, really? I'm surprised by that. lol what the gently caress are you on about, you should of just stopped typing after your qualifer, just because they are annonymous to you doesnt make them bad quality players and if you think the quality of play has been bad at this WC, you must of been frozen in a rictus of horror in 2014 and 2010. vivisectvnv fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jun 18, 2018 |
# ? Jun 18, 2018 02:30 |
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runoverbobby posted:Oh, really? I'm surprised by that. So your self-proclaimed ignorance to international football leads to you think the squads are anonymous? You should get a job at Fox analyzing these games.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 02:35 |
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runoverbobby posted:Oh, really? I'm surprised by that. A lot of teams skew younger these days than they used to. Many of the guys playing now were probably on their respective U-21 teams in the last World Cup, or just blew up in the past season or two like Mbappe. Teams are more spread out now too, as in they play in many leagues a lot of the time. France has reps from 5 different leagues for example. Portugal has players that play all over Europe. What I meant by talent being spread out is that more teams have genuinely good players than they ever did. Egypt has Salah, Serbia has Milinkovic-Savic, Costa Rica has Navas, etc. the playing field is more level because the players have all gotten better. It's a good thing, but it is harder to follow everybody because so many leagues are competitive now, even if there are only around 4 club teams in europe that win anything any more. The stuff below that has gotten better.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 02:49 |
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Shrapnig posted:So your self-proclaimed ignorance to international football leads to you think the squads are anonymous? Soz, I'm just observing that I have consumed as much football during this World Cup cycle as I have in the past 5, and yet I know less about the players in this World Cup than any tournament since 1994. In the past I've known about the non-England internationals by osmosis, but this year I know fewer and I'm just asking if this is a substandard generation of players. The press are even saying England might do well because of how unimpressive everyone else is.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 02:56 |
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runoverbobby posted:Soz, I'm just observing that I have consumed as much football during this World Cup cycle as I have in the past 5, and yet I know less about the players in this World Cup than any tournament since 1994. In the past I've known about the non-England internationals by osmosis, but this year I know fewer and I'm just asking if this is a substandard generation of players. The press are even saying England might do well because of how unimpressive everyone else is. I'd actually say it's the opposite. Individually most teams have players who are far better than previous generations. The issue is getting said players to play well in a team of inferior talents.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 03:00 |
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Gigi Galli posted:A lot of teams skew younger these days than they used to. Many of the guys playing now were probably on their respective U-21 teams in the last World Cup, or just blew up in the past season or two like Mbappe. Teams are more spread out now too, as in they play in many leagues a lot of the time. France has reps from 5 different leagues for example. Portugal has players that play all over Europe. Thanks for this. I didn't consider the youth aspect - it's probably the main factor. In the past one could assume the players from one World Cup would play in the next and stick around into their thirties. Now there's less carryover and you have to re-learn every team every tournament. I'm sure the talent being spread out also has an effect. The good-but-not-prodigiously-great European players are going to look less impressive when the minnow sides are run professionally and have a few genuinely great players. I don't know how to make that sound less colonial so I'm just going to leave it I'm sorry D&D.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 03:40 |
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santanotreal posted:He certainly doesn’t need to be crucified for it, but literally clapping is a bit condescending, even if he’s being genuine. Did you watch the video? After her analysis they all just sat there in silence for a bit, until someone said "that was very good", and then Evra applauded, ostensibly in concurrence. Noone had anything to add so they had to do some sort of conversational break in order to move on. People calling it sexist are being sexist. (not against Evra ofc, just in general)
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 07:39 |
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Question, has sochi dog stolen any of the soccer balls yet
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 07:53 |
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The only thing I don’t like about this World Cup is the VAR poo poo.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 08:26 |
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Dirk Pitt posted:The only thing I don’t like about this World Cup is the VAR poo poo. Actually VAR has been cool and good so far.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 10:05 |
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jeebus bob posted:Did you watch the video? I’m guessing the reaction is read just as you described. Evra is surprised and challenged by Aluko’s analysis presumably because he expected much less from a woman so he claps. It’s read as condescending because it’s a well worn reaction by men that in a mild and ‘nice’ way still lets the woman know that she has stepped out of line by showing up her male colleagues by ‘trying too hard’. He reacted not to a good bit of analysis, but to a good bit of analysis coming, unexpectedly for him, from a woman. Put another was, he responded to Aluko not as a pundit but as a woman of whom he expected nothing like this because of her sex.
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# ? Jun 18, 2018 10:15 |
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Good article this. https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/romelu-lukaku-ive-got-some-things-to-sayquote:You know what’s funny? I missed 10 years of Champions League football when I was a kid. We never could afford it. I would come into school and all the kids would be talking about the final, and I’d have no idea what happened. I remember back in 2002, when Madrid played Leverkusen, everybody was like, “The volley! Oh my God, the volley!” quote:When things were going well, I was reading newspapers articles and they were calling me Romelu Lukaku, the Belgian striker.
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