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Here, cleanse your palate: https://twitter.com/PPVSRB/status/1008694074839363584
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Yeah I don't get miner jumping in now. At all
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Jun 18, 2018 14:33
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Here, cleanse your palate: as good as Nixon is on the issues, she's a protest candidate at her core, and that isn't going to fly well here because our electorate is stupid
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Jun 18, 2018 17:34
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So are we looking at a 4 way race, with Miner as an independent and Nixon on the wfp line? Admittedly I haven't done a rigorous analysis here, but couldn't this split the democratic/left wing vote such that Molinaro has a chance at winning? Or does cuomo still win handily (barfs)
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Jun 18, 2018 17:42
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Glambags posted:Or does cuomo still win handily (barfs)
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Jun 18, 2018 17:45
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Yeah that figures, I've seen local races upstate where the democrat actually won because you had different people on the republican, conservative, and independence party lines (sometimes the right to life party was in there but I think that's now defunct) and the right wing vote was split. Seems less likely to happen statewide
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Jun 18, 2018 18:40
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Glambags posted:So are we looking at a 4 way race, with Miner as an independent and Nixon on the wfp line? Do you want Molinaro to win? Because turns out that the people running Miner might! quote:Leadership of the newly founded political party backing Stephanie Miner’s run for governor has ties to national Republicans, but its leaders say they are not in any way intending to help the candidacy of Republican gubernatorial candidate Marc Molinaro. They deny it, of course: quote:Galen said the idea that Miner’s candidacy would help Molinaro is a “huge assumption” that “completely discounts that there are nearly 2.4 million independent/blank voters” in New York, or almost as many as the Republicans have. 
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Jun 19, 2018 00:38
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there's still a ways to go until September. I'm not ruling Cynthia out yet.
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Jun 19, 2018 00:43
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Matt Zerella posted:there's still a ways to go until September. I'm not ruling Cynthia out yet.
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Jun 19, 2018 03:02
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God drat it new york sucks rear end
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Jun 19, 2018 03:08
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get that OUT of my face posted:i admire and laugh at your optimism at the same time Alexandria has given me hope.
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Jun 19, 2018 03:12
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Do you want Molinaro to win? Because turns out that the people running Miner might! The real playbook here, for those trying to follow along from home, is to file a legal challenge to keep Nixon on the WFP ballot line after she loses the D primary (there’s a bad, but not completely awful, argument that the usual maneuver for replacing her on the line after she loses the D primary won’t work because she’s not already an elected official or some such.) That turns an easy d win, even if it is Governor Ratfucker cruising to re-election, into a four ring circus where Molinaro can squeak out a victory
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Jun 19, 2018 03:19
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my mom the mario cuomo groupie upon crossing the governor mario cuomo bridge yesterday: "Mr. Cuomo always wanted rail over this bridge and for his son to say its too expensive to do rail and then put his name on it must have him spinning in his grave"
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Jun 19, 2018 03:32
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Hell Yeah mom.
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Real hurthling! posted:my mom the mario cuomo groupie upon crossing the governor mario cuomo bridge yesterday: "Mr. Cuomo always wanted rail over this bridge and for his son to say its too expensive to do rail and then put his name on it must have him spinning in his grave" We found out how to meet our renewable energy goals by 2020!
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Jun 19, 2018 03:48
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CaptainPsyko posted:The real playbook here, for those trying to follow along from home, is to file a legal challenge to keep Nixon on the WFP ballot line after she loses the D primary (there’s a bad, but not completely awful, argument that the usual maneuver for replacing her on the line after she loses the D primary won’t work because she’s not already an elected official or some such.) Why would anyone need to file a challenge to keep Nixon on the wfp line? Didn't she win the wfp nomination?
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Jun 19, 2018 16:24
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Look at this nonsense from guess whoquote:On June 7, a new student-led coalition called CURB (Children United to Rein In Breakneck Driving) rallied outside Governor Cuomo’s office in Midtown to urge state lawmakers to approve legislation to double the number of speed cameras outside the city’s schools. http://thevillager.com/2018/06/18/kids-call-for-more-speed-cameras-near-schools/ Getting kids killed to own the libs I guess.
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Jun 19, 2018 16:32
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Glambags posted:Why would anyone need to file a challenge to keep Nixon on the wfp line? Didn't she win the wfp nomination? SOP, which WFP have indicated they probably intend to follow, is to change the nomination after the democratic primary if Nixon loses. If they don’t, quite frankly, it’d be the death of the party. Their guaranteed ballot access is contingent on getting 5% in November which they do through fusion access.
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CaptainPsyko posted:SOP, which WFP have indicated they probably intend to follow, is to change the nomination after the democratic primary if Nixon loses. If they don’t, quite frankly, it’d be the death of the party. Their guaranteed ballot access is contingent on getting 5% in November which they do through fusion access. Hmm I see. Thanks for the explainer. New York politics is very cool.
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Glambags posted:Hmm I see. Thanks for the explainer. Fusion balloting for all of its quirks, is IMO, unironically one of the truly good things about NY politics.
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Jun 19, 2018 17:37
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Shageletic posted:Look at this nonsense from guess who Speed Camera's are trash policy, whose primary purpose is to raise revenue for well-connected business owners.
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Jun 19, 2018 18:05
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CaptainPsyko posted:Fusion balloting for all of its quirks, is IMO, unironically one of the truly good things about NY politics. No I get why it exists and see its utility, but fuckin cuomo man
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Speed Camera's are trash policy, whose primary purpose is to raise revenue for well-connected business owners.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Speed Camera's are trash policy, whose primary purpose is to raise revenue for well-connected business owners. quote:We currently have speed safety cameras in just 140 school zones, or about 7% of the city's schools. By law they operate only during school hours (not early mornings, nights, or weekends when children of all ages often use school-adjacent facilities), and can only be placed along a narrow section of road touching the exit of a school. These restrictions have been imposed by our elected officials in Albany. http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/speed-cameras-save-lives-article-1.3892394
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Jun 19, 2018 19:20
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Glambags posted:No I get why it exists and see its utility, but fuckin cuomo man In this case it’s not a fuckin’ Cuomo situation, and you’ve gotta reach real hard to see it as one
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Jun 19, 2018 19:32
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I support any measure which makes it less pleasant to drive here. I mean I can agree with that, but in that case literally close the roads to cars in manhattan. Connect the bridges, close all the exit's from the FDR/West Side highway, and remove cars from the island.
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Jun 19, 2018 19:36
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CaptainPsyko posted:In this case it’s not a fuckin’ Cuomo situation, and you’ve gotta reach real hard to see it as one I don't want to see him on the wfp line, is that not what you were suggesting would happen?
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I mean I can agree with that, but in that case literally close the roads to cars in manhattan. Connect the bridges, close all the exit's from the FDR/West Side highway, and remove cars from the island. shipping and receiving is the complicated part
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Jun 19, 2018 19:43
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Wow, hope that CURB (Children United to Rein In Breakneck Driving) and the Coalition of the Shafted stick around in the years to come, their names are too good and just so perfectly capture the spirit of NY State Politics. ate poo poo on live tv posted:Speed Camera's are trash policy, whose primary purpose is to raise revenue for well-connected business owners. But, also: Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I support any measure which makes it less pleasant to drive here. Same.
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Jun 19, 2018 21:02
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:*shrug* you have my vote but we're doing realpolitik up in here Commercial traffic only, designate certain hours, expand bus service through the newly unleashed streets
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Accident Underwater posted:Commercial traffic only, designate certain hours, expand bus service through the newly unleashed streets
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Jun 19, 2018 21:04
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while we are wishlisting, death penalty for leaving dog poo poo on the ground
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Jun 19, 2018 21:10
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Is this the dog owner or the property owner whose sidewalk is in front of who gets executed? (It better not be the fuckin' dog.) If the former, do note that not every dog is a slave and we still need to handle their poops.
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who would kill a dog? also property owners are already dead in my head canon
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Jun 19, 2018 21:24
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Property owners aren't dead, but they are extinct.
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Glambags posted:I don't want to see him on the wfp line, is that not what you were suggesting would happen? It is, but the whole point of him being on the WFP line is that it’s a mechanism to send him a message without potentially backdooring in a Molinaro Win. It’s the whole point of fusion balloting.
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Jun 19, 2018 21:40
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The message loses its bite if there's no risk of ever losing the endorsement though, tbh.
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GalacticAcid posted:The message loses its bite if there's no risk of ever losing the endorsement though, tbh. Debatable, but, more importantly, i’m willing to accept losing the ability to make that message a threat in one race (for Governor) to keep the ability to use that line as a threat in every other race.
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Jun 20, 2018 01:25
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The problem is that it's always that race, and that it's a way of losing ballot access/prominence for completely bullshit reasons.
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Real hurthling! posted:while we are wishlisting, death penalty for leaving dog poo poo on the ground Confession time: About 10 years ago I was walking my dog in the city and he had diarrhea. I didn't know what to do since you can't pick up a liquid puddle with a doggie bag. I think I just stared at it for a while and walked away when I thought no one was looking. 
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