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Which aspect of restorative justice applies when the family of the dead person has not and will never reconcile with the offender and wants them jailed forever?
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 04:59 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:13 |
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JBP posted:Which aspect of restorative justice applies when the family of the dead person has not and will never reconcile with the offender and wants them jailed forever? I had a brainfart and said restorative instead of rehabilitative, I thought you would get that from context but I guess your cop boner makes you more pedantic than usual
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:01 |
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JBP posted:If a cop is raped and murdered in a park, let's say as a conversation starter, would you have this extremely hosed up attitude? Setting different sentencing levels depending on the victims job is segregation and a way of saying one person's worth is more than another due to their profession, which is the opposite of equality and socialism. The relationship of the murderer to the victim should definitely be taken into account with regards to sentencing but you can't say cop killers automatically never get parole as that is a slap in the face to all families of victims of similar crimes where parole is an option.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:03 |
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bell jar posted:I had a brainfart and said restorative instead of rehabilitative, I thought you would get that from context but I guess your cop boner makes you more pedantic than usual I have a human boner and being correct is a virtue.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:03 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Setting different sentencing levels depending on the victims job is segregation and a way of saying one person's worth is more than another due to their profession, which is the opposite of equality and socialism. The relationship of the murderer to the victim should definitely be taken into account with regards to sentencing but you can't say cop killers automatically never get parole as that is a slap in the face to all families of victims of similar crimes where parole is an option. It's less that it's a cop and more that he staged a bombing which killed someone. e: also when you look at what the bomb was built to do, the intent was to kill way more than one.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:03 |
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JBP posted:It's less that it's a cop and more that he staged a bombing which killed someone. Did you read the article? quote:The Victorian Government introduced the legislation that was the subject of the challenge in late 2016, to prevent people who killed police officers from being released.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:05 |
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JBP posted:It's less that it's a cop and more that he staged a bombing which killed someone. Then it's about the nature of the crime and not the victim's occupation which is what the discussion was framed around E: bell jar clarified
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:05 |
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Why is it fair that cops are given greater legal protection than women when arguably the latter are under a greater and more constant threat
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:06 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Then it's about the nature of the crime and not the victim's occupation which is what the discussion was framed around Yeah for sure. I was caught up dealing with Bell Jar being foul. There shouldn't be tiers, but this guy shouldn't be leaving prison. e: bell jar is correct that this offender should be euthanised tho JBP fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jun 21, 2018 |
# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:07 |
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JBP posted:Yeah for sure. I was caught up dealing with Bell Jar being foul. There shouldn't be tiers, but this guy shouldn't be leaving prison. That's fine, and for the parole board to decide under the sentence handed down when tried. Making a law specifically targeting this guy for killing cops, and then promising to pass more laws targeting this guy specifically to appease cops, is insanely hosed and a corruption of what you'd expect from due process in this country. gently caress cops.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:10 |
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JBP posted:e: also when you look at what the bomb was built to do, the intent was to kill way more than one. It's not how he was sentenced so it doesn't apply to this case in a legal sense, even though it was obviously crafted for this
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:10 |
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JBP posted:Undo it asap and lay down enormous public gently caress yous at every opportunity. trunkh posted:The problem with this is it requires bravery in the face of an inevitable hostile media landscape. There are many words that can be used to describe politians in Australia. Brave is not on that list. If ALP get in and their first act *isn't* a massive repealing bill on a massive scale like the Libs first bills, their time in office will be short. The trap is that the economy isn't going anywhere fast in the next 10 years, people are getting squeezed, and there is a breaking point. Only an idiot would look at the state of the UK and say to themselves 'it couldn't be that bad here, let's copy them more'.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:10 |
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Its funny to me the idea that this guy would already be on parole if the person he killed wasn't a cop, police in this state have no interest in regular people, they only give a poo poo about their own. They'll band together against you the moment you do something they don't like. gently caress em, disband em, rebuild em without firearms and with greater organisational transparency.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:16 |
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bell jar posted:That's fine, and for the parole board to decide under the sentence handed down when tried. Making a law specifically targeting this guy for killing cops, and then promising to pass more laws targeting this guy specifically to appease cops, is insanely hosed and a corruption of what you'd expect from due process in this country. I wonder if it is less about appeasing cops and more demonstrating support for are emergency services given all the poo poo being thrown at dandew recently.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:16 |
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JBP posted:I wonder if it is less about appeasing cops and more demonstrating support for are emergency services given all the poo poo being thrown at dandew recently. Its not emergency services that are covered, only police. See my post above
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:17 |
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bell jar posted:Its not emergency services that are covered, only police. See my post above Yes I know that. I am wondering if The Public, who see police as an emergency service, are the greater accounting in this above police specifically.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:18 |
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lmao that the lnp has put all its eggs in the aspiration basket
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:24 |
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'Repeal Liberal's tax cuts for the rich' would make a good election platform, but I don't have faith in the Labor party to capitalise on it.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:25 |
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Birdstrike posted:lmao that the lnp has put all its eggs in the aspiration basket They still think the "you too, can be RICH" message is inspiring when the response is almost universally "dude, I can't even get uniform shifts".
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:26 |
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aspirations? yeah I aspire to affordable housing, multinationals paying their fair share, a pay rise above CPI and full communism now. checkmate libtards
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:26 |
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Birdstrike posted:aspirations? yeah I aspire to affordable housing, multinationals paying their fair share, a pay rise above CPI and full communism now. heck I'd settle for the first bit.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:29 |
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Know what I aspire for? For all the people in the liberal party to get
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:30 |
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The Before Times posted:heck I'd settle for the first bit. The market is starting to provide on that front. Going to be a bit awkwarrrrrd in 2020 when there are all these developments sitting at stage one because no one wants to buy the $500k apartments that the developer must sell to fund stage two and three.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:31 |
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JBP posted:The market is starting to provide on that front. Going to be a bit awkwarrrrrd in 2020 when there are all these developments sitting at stage one because no one wants to buy the $500k apartments that the developer must sell to fund stage two and three. I'm talking about affordable rentals, which it's going to take a while for that knock-on effect to happen (if it does at all, AirBnB seems to be absorbing a lot of the rental market in inner Melb). Mainly I want affordable rentals so I can save a deposit for those post-2020 rock bottom prices.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:33 |
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Intoluene posted:Know what I aspire for? For all the people in the liberal party to get JBP posted:You realise there are LNP members that chose the career because they think it's a moral imperative to help people pick themselves off their bootstraps and get into work?
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:33 |
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JBP posted:The market is starting to provide on that front. Going to be a bit awkwarrrrrd in 2020 when there are all these developments sitting at stage one because no one wants to buy the $500k apartments that the developer must sell to fund stage two and three. That's when you abolish the foreign investment review board
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:35 |
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They will be the first.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:41 |
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Embattled Liberal senator Lucy Gichuhi was taken to court seven times for failing to pay $8,359 worth of council rates and $1,372 in water bills. Court documents obtained exclusively by Daily Mail Australia show the Kenyan-born federal MP faced legal action from City of Port Adelaide Enfield council, Whyalla City Council and the South Australian Water Corporation in 2013, 2014 and 2017. The Turnbull Government senator, who is on a $203,000 salary, was ordered by local court magistrates to pay $9,731 in seven unpaid bills, related to two investment properties in Adelaide and one in regional Whyalla. One unpaid council bill went to court just three weeks before she was sworn in last year as a senator, and another bill was taken to a magistrate four months after she became a member of Parliament.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:44 |
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The Before Times posted:I'm talking about affordable rentals, which it's going to take a while for that knock-on effect to happen (if it does at all, AirBnB seems to be absorbing a lot of the rental market in inner Melb). Mainly I want affordable rentals so I can save a deposit for those post-2020 rock bottom prices. Yeah same. I would blow Dane Cook posted:Embattled
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:45 |
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https://twitter.com/JohnWren1950/status/1008897039713828865 the more things change, the more they stay the same.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:47 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Embattled Liberal senator Lucy Gichuhi was taken to court seven times for failing to pay $8,359 worth of council rates and $1,372 in water bills. I disagree with her politics and I know they're trying to make her sound like a dodgy gently caress but all I'm getting from this article is "Kenyan-born lady may have been poor prior to getting a highly paid job".
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:47 |
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Barnaby picked the name Sebastian which is the name he and his wife had agreed to use if they ever had a son.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:49 |
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I mean the only reason Hinch ever ran for parliament was so he could read out the names of pedophiles under parliamentary privilege (note this is bad primarily because it can make their victims or families easier to identify, which for privacy reasons you don't want to happen).
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:49 |
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G-Spot Run posted:I disagree with her politics and I know they're trying to make her sound like a dodgy gently caress but all I'm getting from this article is "Kenyan-born lady may have been poor prior to getting a highly paid job". Her multiple investment properties.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:49 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Embattled Liberal senator Lucy Gichuhi was taken to court seven times for failing to pay $8,359 worth of council rates and $1,372 in water bills. Did she try explaining the concept of buying power?
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:54 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Her multiple investment properties.
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:54 |
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quote:This Young Woman Was Told To Take Off Her Union T-Shirt In A Busy Public Area At Parliament House https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/this-young-woman-was-told-to-take-off-her-union-t-shirt-in?utm_term=.vwE6JeJ21#.tqaDaOavA
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:56 |
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https://twitter.com/SquigglyRick/status/1009593597383938050
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:57 |
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wait wait did they accidentally abolish all income tax from 2024
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# ? Jun 21, 2018 05:59 |
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Guardian Liveblog posted:Peter Dutton is up to talk about how safe we are and how unsafe we could be. Just because you hit more targets firing blindly with a gatling gun doesn't mean you're a sharpshooter.
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