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"This is most verily unproductive" also sounds like a parody of how Thor talks, which is...troublesome...coming from the guy who's written so much Thor.
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Aaron on avengers sounds totally different than Aaron on Thor, right? For Thor, Loki, Steve, really every character?
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Jun 21, 2018 13:14
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I'm afraid that instead of going "Alright. Time to make an impact" he figured this could be his most mainstream comic and decided to shift into lowest common denominator mode.
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Jun 21, 2018 13:23
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So I don't read much Carol stuff, but everything I see her in, she's not very likeable. Which is weird because they want her to be like an A-lister, right?
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Jun 21, 2018 13:30
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I think it's just hard to write an ensemble and he's going for a light, comic tone. I think it's decent so far but the pacing is slow, and the third issue is very guilty of this.
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Jun 21, 2018 13:30
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That could be it. Aaron has struggled for team event books too, like the middle and ending of original sin.
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Jun 21, 2018 13:31
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Waffleman_ posted:So I don't read much Carol stuff, but everything I see her in, she's not very likeable. Them wanting Carol to be an A-Lister does not equal them knowing how to write Carol like an A-Lister. They write Carol like Roman Reigns
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Jun 21, 2018 13:32
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Here's hoping her movie is good and the comics can start ripping off her movie portrayal to improve her in the books. If the movie sucks, it's time to give up and move on to Sue or someone else for their wonder woman.
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Jun 21, 2018 14:24
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Onmi posted:Them wanting Carol to be an A-Lister does not equal them knowing how to write Carol like an A-Lister. They write Carol like Roman Reigns I feel like I've given Carol a pretty good shot over the years. The DeConnick stuff was talked up endlessly but I never cared for it. Her book with Alpha Flight is... okay, but it doesn't feel like an A-list book either. It all very much feels like they want me to like her just because I'm supposed to, and that sucks because I do want to like her.
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Jun 21, 2018 15:36
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Do Thor and Avengers fall into different editorial offices? The difference in quality could be Aaron having a very comfortable creative/working dynamic with his Thor editors, and not, or at least not yet, clicking with the Avengers editorial team.
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Jun 21, 2018 16:32
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The only contemporary Carol stuff I've liked is her hanging out with Kamala frankly, which is rare and almost more a commentary on the strength of the latter character really.
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Jun 21, 2018 17:07
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Even on poo poo like Champions where Carol showed up (and was right for a change) she went about it terribly and caused a fight between Alpha Flight and Champions. Carol is terrible and my dark hope is the movie fixes her so “movie synergy” fixes her in the comics.
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Jun 21, 2018 17:10
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I liked when she went on a date with Spider-Man.
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Jun 21, 2018 17:14
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I mean they assassinated the living hell out of Tony Stark's character before he became the biggest thing in the Marvel world since a tasty bowl of Kirby Krackles; maybe they thought that formula would work for Carol.
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Jun 21, 2018 17:31
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I can't figure out why they can't make Carol work as an A-lister because I feel like she should be a sure thing. Maybe it's the same as Cyborg at DC - I like the characters and I like stories they've been in, but they've never really been main characters when I liked them before; they were always best as part of the team to me.
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Jun 21, 2018 17:43
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Teenage Fansub posted:Like always, "yeeess?" This conversation is funnier if you also read yesterdays champions where she has the same exact argument with kamala about going all minority report on people
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Jun 21, 2018 17:55
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Endless Mike posted:I liked when she went on a date with Spider-Man. I forgot about that. That would have been a fun couple.
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Jun 21, 2018 20:09
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so i just finished slotts iron man, and besides it being fairly generic and not really that interesting (i know i know shocking) it feels incredibly weird that slott decided to jettison the entire supporting cast besides rhodey friday got replaced with jocasta, mary jane got replaced by rando red head girl, riri is now rando old guy, mom is gone, and theres no explanation theyre just gone it's like what the hell site fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jun 21, 2018 |
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Jun 21, 2018 23:28
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site posted:so i just finished slotts iron man, and besides it being fairly generic and not really that interesting (i know i know shocking) it feels incredibly weird that slott decided to jettison the entire supporting cast besides rhodey It was absolutely terrible BUT Bethany Cabe makes more sense than Mary Jane.
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Jun 21, 2018 23:40
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is cabe a returning character from the beforetimes then? i didnt recognize her
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Jun 21, 2018 23:46
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I really love Mary Jane and wish she’d get her due with a great team and book. Like, and Adam Hughes on art
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Jun 21, 2018 23:50
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Gatts posted:I really love Mary Jane and wish she’d get her due with a great team and book. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but i wish she'd get back with Peter and wear the Iron Spider suit. Or I guess something similar since Miles' uncle has it now.
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Jun 21, 2018 23:53
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renew your vows
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site posted:renew your vows Yeah I know. I just wanted it in current-616.
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Jun 22, 2018 00:09
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site posted:is cabe a returning character from the beforetimes then? i didnt recognize her Yeah Cabe's been around on and off since the 70's I don't think it's weird to jettison a supporting cast given how often it happens. Bendis ditched everything Taylor did, Taylor ditched everything Gillen did, so on and so forth. It's how a lot of runs kick off with only the absolute most long term characters like Lois Lane mostly immune to this. Hell Sharon Carter is practically synonymous with Captain America but she disappears for stretches of years at a time.
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Jun 22, 2018 00:32
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Gatts posted:I really love Mary Jane and wish she’d get her due with a great team and book. lmao
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Jun 22, 2018 00:40
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Blockhouse posted:Yeah Cabe's been around on and off since the 70's thats true. i guess my thinking on this is that invincible spent the last like 7 months having permutations of that group together building them into coworker, friends, and teammates for the finale where they all come together and embrace as a more or less familial unit and then the next issue opens and we're not even paying lip service to the idea that any of that mattered or that it even happened at all. it just makes the entire thing retroactively feel meaningless imo
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Jun 22, 2018 00:48
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site posted:thats true. i guess my thinking on this is that invincible spent the last like 7 months having permutations of that group together building them into coworker, friends, and teammates for the finale where they all come together and embrace as a more or less familial unit and then the next issue opens and we're not even paying lip service to the idea that any of that mattered or that it even happened at all. it just makes the entire thing retroactively feel meaningless imo Bendis is a better writer than Slott.
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Jun 22, 2018 00:51
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site posted:thats true. i guess my thinking on this is that invincible spent the last like 7 months having permutations of that group together building them into coworker, friends, and teammates for the finale where they all come together and embrace as a more or less familial unit and then the next issue opens and we're not even paying lip service to the idea that any of that mattered or that it even happened at all. it just makes the entire thing retroactively feel meaningless imo That's Comics! Look on the bright side: No one's revealed the entire Bendis run was an elaborate dream sequences like how Bruce Jones' entire 41 issue run on the Hulk was immediately retconned out by Peter David as Nightmare messing with him. gently caress you, everyone who bought those comics!
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Jun 22, 2018 01:04
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Endless Mike posted:lmao My favorite artist.
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Rhyno posted:Bendis is a better writer than Slott. hosed up but true. Speaking of Renew Your Vows though, the latest issue was really good.
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Blockhouse posted:Hell Sharon Carter is practically synonymous with Captain America but she disappears for stretches of years at a time. Gatts posted:My favorite artist.
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Jun 22, 2018 01:29
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Hey, Adam Hughes just did 3 issues of Betty and Veronica in a year!
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Edge & Christian posted:I was going to say she spent more time gone than there, but it's pretty even at this point. She was dead for sixteen years before Mark Waid (somewhat controversially) brought her back his first Captain America run, and was used a fair bit in Dan Jurgens's follow-up run. She more or less disappeared for the volume of Cap that came between the end of Jurgens (2001) and Brubaker taking over (2005), but has appeared pretty consistently for the past decade or so. Mainly I'm just old, because I considered her coming back 22 years ago as "pretty recently". Sharon is definitely the leading Marvel supporting character who gets the worst of it, followed closely by Jane Foster and Betty Ross. The only comparable important-classic-character-constantly-ghosting thing I think of for DC is...Steve Trevor?
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Blockhouse posted:That's Comics! yeah i know, i guess it just irks me when it gets thrown in my face like that
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Codependent Poster posted:Hey, Adam Hughes just did 3 issues of Betty and Veronica in a year! Just for fun a compendium of 21st Century Adam Hughes interior art (years where he completed at least an issue's worth of art bolded) 2000: 2 pages of an issue of The Dreaming 2001: None 2002: None 2003: 5 pages of a Tom Strong issue 2004: None 2005: None 2006: Wonder Woman Origin for 52, two pages 2007: Power Girl Origin for 52, two pages 2008: None 2009: None 2010: 2 pages for Superman/Batman #75 2011: None 2012: One page of Fables #100, 3 pages for Fables #113 2013: 3 pages of Fairest OGN, four entire issues of Dr. Manhattan 2014: One page of Harley Quinn #0, 8 pages for Batman Black & White 2015: None 2016: 23 pages of Betty & Veronica 2017: 43 pages of Betty & Veronica 2018: 4 pages of Captain America #701
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Iron Man was just kinda... okay? I like his voice for Tony quite a bit but it was a bit too much too fast. Bethany Cabe is a weird cut, as is Jocasta. Honestly, pre-2008 Iron Man characters need a whole new introduction.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I can't figure out why they can't make Carol work as an A-lister because I feel like she should be a sure thing. Maybe it's the same as Cyborg at DC - I like the characters and I like stories they've been in, but they've never really been main characters when I liked them before; they were always best as part of the team to me. reader: Marvel maybe try not writing her as a combative rear end in a top hat that puts people in comas? Marvel: ?!?!?
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Reader: Generally, people do not like superheroes that are fascists. Marvel: But she's the most popular hero in the world.
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Waffleman_ posted:Reader: Generally, people do not like superheroes that are fascists. Reader: I think you mean your world, Marvel. Marvel: !?!?!?
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