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Gene Hackman Fan posted:All goon humor is references buried under enough layers Which works out good for me because my only flailing attempts at humor are entirely referential. Just seen through a kaleidoscope of stupidity.
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A friend of mine told me that everything is pastiche, which I had to google and probably spelt incorrectly but it kind of cracked my mind a bit to realise that any thought or idea we ever have has probably been had by someone, somewhere else already and probably done better.
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Jun 23, 2018 05:59
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Outrail posted:A friend of mine told me that everything is pastiche, which I had to google and probably spelt incorrectly but it kind of cracked my mind a bit to realise that any thought or idea we ever have has probably been had by someone, somewhere else already and probably done better. But by that same logic you are doing it better than somebody else, so don't be discouraged. Do the best you can, you may inspire somebody!
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Jun 23, 2018 07:04
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It's only a pastiche if it's consciously imitative.
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Jun 23, 2018 07:53
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Outrail posted:A friend of mine told me that everything is pastiche, which I had to google and probably spelt incorrectly but it kind of cracked my mind a bit to realise that any thought or idea we ever have has probably been had by someone, somewhere else already and probably done better.
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Jun 23, 2018 09:10
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this broken hill posted:yes, but it's combined with a billion other thoughts that you've unconsciously stolen from other people, and filtered through your own perfectly unique life experience and personality. so while everything is pastiche, every pastiche is unique As someone way smarter than me once said, "Everything you see has been seen. Everything you do has been done. But it hasn't been seen with your eyes, and it hasn't been done with your hands."
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Jun 23, 2018 09:12
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Screaming Idiot posted:But by that same logic you are doing it better than somebody else, so don't be discouraged. Do the best you can, you may inspire somebody! Or to put in an actual quote: Sir Isaac Newton posted:If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
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Jun 23, 2018 11:10
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We're all born naked and the rest is drag?
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Jun 23, 2018 12:35
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Extremely accurate.
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Jun 23, 2018 12:59
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Indeed, as we all know Europeans are always referring to Europe as a bastion of 'liberalism' e: they're several miles and gallons more liberal than the Americans
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Jun 23, 2018 13:05
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*cough* kilometers and liters
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Jun 23, 2018 13:07
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liberals are right wing
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Jun 23, 2018 13:20
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this broken hill posted:yes, but it's combined with a billion other thoughts that you've unconsciously stolen from other people, and filtered through your own perfectly unique life experience and personality. so while everything is pastiche, every pastiche is unique This one works best if delivered through a continuous barf of ill-advisedly chugged galiano.
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Jun 23, 2018 13:24
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American: "Our National Health Service is in a shambles, thanks to those Christian democrat clowns in parliament"
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Jun 23, 2018 13:33
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's amazing, watch it. The first time I saw Heathers I was tripping balls. I watched it again the next day and was simply amazed at how much of the bizarre poo poo I remembered seeing was actually in the movie. See it !
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mllaneza posted:The first time I saw Heathers I was tripping balls. I watched it again the next day and was simply amazed at how much of the bizarre poo poo I remembered seeing was actually in the movie. I did this after watching Zardoz while super high and then watching it sober and realizing its actually a pretty good movie
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My Lovely Horse posted:Does anyone remember a short story post about some guy discovering a civilization of sentient mice in his basement? He kinda helps them along and keeps them secret from his wife at first, but then she discovers them on her own and is just as enchanted by it as he is? There's no huge twist to it or anything, they just live in that house for decades and become this mouse tribe's guardians cause for the mice it's several generations. I'm only about 80% sure this was an SA thing but I've been thinking about it forever. I absolutely want to hear about this, I've never heard anything about it on SA tho.
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found it https://forum.rpg.net/archive/index.php/t-681700.html
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purple death ray posted:Speaking of dead gay sons, anyone have the quote from that goon who left a message on his parents answering machine that opened with "Hello this is your human being son"? yeah Apps posted:oh jesus jesus christ
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Context: Nine Inch Nails put out another album this week, and Trent Reznor is bad at naming things.Mein Kampf Enthusiast posted:Also holy poo poo, he's at 4 kids now? polyester concept posted:Not that his kids are any of our business but a few pages back somebody pointed out how they've been given the most insufferable names ever: glam rock hamhock posted:Man in suit: Hello, Mr Reznor. I'm from Child Protective services
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hey thread i just watched heathers because y'all were talking about it and it was terrible i know it's 30 years old but it is about the dumbest most tone-deaf poo poo imaginable in 2018. the main plot is about teenagers murdering each other over minuscule slights and it is filled with great jokes about school shootings, suicide bombings, eating disorders, gay-bashing, mental illness, depression, gay suicide, date rape, and other hilarious subjects. the writing is awkward and the acting is stilted. in a world where gay people are just people and not inherently a joke, the "dead gay son" scene is heart-wrenching, not funny. the only thing it was missing was some racism and maybe a bearded lady style transgendered person to make up the full set do not watch
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Sagebrush posted:hey thread i just watched heathers because y'all were talking about it and it was terrible so what you're saying is you do not love his dead gay son it is admittedly a movie that was much better served by its own context at the time than it is by 2018's context
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Jun 23, 2018 16:16
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Stop ruining my childhood you insensitive jerk < >
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Caufman posted:My excuse is that neither I nor my parents were born in the US. Come to think of it, we watched T2 that night as well as Heathers. Heathers is definitely dated, the suggestion to watch a John Hughes movie first was good advice.
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Jun 23, 2018 16:24
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Heathers is great simply for giving us the Teenage Suicide song.
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Sagebrush posted:hey thread i just watched heathers because y'all were talking about it and it was terrible lmfao
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Jun 23, 2018 16:28
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*finger of "goon recommendation" monkey paw curls inwards*
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Outrail posted:A friend of mine told me that everything is pastiche, which I had to google and probably spelt incorrectly but it kind of cracked my mind a bit to realise that any thought or idea we ever have has probably been had by someone, somewhere else already and probably done better. One of my passions is trying to work out and then be able to smoothly apply a sequence of words that has probably never been assembled before. It's not that hard in English, although it's rare to find something as wonderful in the wild as the beloved "illegal party toilet".
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Jun 23, 2018 16:32
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Sagebrush posted:hey thread i just watched heathers because y'all were talking about it and it was terrible A large portion of your complaints are, in fact, the point. It's a contrast to the standard 'films about high school' of the time. A lot of what you classify as 'jokes' aren't supposed to be funny, and Kid In Leather Jacket wasn't supposed to be a funny cool guy. The 'awkward' dialogue is primarily from J. D., who is basically a tryhard McCoolkid, and his dialogue is like that because it's mimicking other excessively structured dialogue of the teen movies of five years before. It's a deliberate deconstruction. "Man, if somebody really acted like that, they'd be loving insane." You're making basically the exact opposite mistake of complaining about why this kid:  is poorly-designed. It's a fully intentional overstatement (although I think INTERNET kid's final design was still thought of as kind of cool by the designers, but that's entirely my personal interpretation)
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I didn't read Sagebrush's post as showing that they'd missed the movie's whole drift, but it didn't occur to me that that could happen so I could totally be wrong.
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Some films only work in very specific context of their genre, and if someone isn't familiar with the genre, it doesn't quite land. It's like how Neo Yokio is the greatest show on Earth but only for like 4 people.
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i'm not sure i buy your thesis that the movie is deliberately poorly acted and full of jokes that aren't supposed to land. but even if that's true, like, okay, good for them? they made a movie that sucks, but intentionally? i don't think that's the case. the jokes like "we know this was a gay couple that killed each other because here is a bottle of mineral water" were clearly supposed to be directly funny, not mocking something from a john hughes film, but they're just stupid. maybe the concept of a kid bringing a revolver to school to shoot blanks in the jocks' faces was just a mischievous prank in 1988 but it's ghastly today. it's like watching Ace Ventura again. in the climactic scene we find that the villain is a pre-op transgendered person and the idea is so revolting that all the police officers start immediately vomiting. ha ha. the world has changed, and so have the people in it, and sometimes that means that things you used to enjoy aren't what they used to be. Sagebrush has a new favorite as of 17:01 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:Do you read Achewood? oh dang pick just poo poo the bed with the lights on
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Jun 23, 2018 16:57
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Let's put the movie Heathers inside Ghost World and see what happens
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Pick posted:Some films only work in very specific context of their genre, and if someone isn't familiar with the genre, it doesn't quite land. It's like how Neo Yokio is the greatest show on Earth but only for like 4 people. What context is that? I don't understand that show at all. Is it tone-deaf or deeply self-aware? Is the casting good or awful? I cannot comprehend a universe that contains both Jaden Smith as an anime Archer without the basest understanding of what makes Archer work, and a creepy vaping police commissioner voiced by Steve Buscemi.
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Jun 23, 2018 17:05
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Things were different in the 80's than they are now. Mind. Blown.
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Sagebrush posted:i'm not sure i buy your thesis that the movie is deliberately poorly acted and full of jokes that aren't supposed to land. but even if that's true, like, okay, good for them? they made a movie that sucks, but intentionally? i don't think that's the case. the jokes like "we know this was a gay couple that killed each other because here is a bottle of mineral water" were clearly supposed to be directly funny, not mocking something from a john hughes film, but they're just stupid. maybe the concept of a kid bringing a revolver to school to shoot blanks in the jocks' faces was just a mischievous prank in 1988 but it's ghastly today. I know what you mean. I was watching DS9 recently and was very uncomfortable with Lwaxana Troi sexually harassing Odo. On the enterprise she was the councillor's mom so it wasn't quite as bad, but in the DS9 episode she's specifically there in her role as a top federation diplomat touring the station. She won't take a polite no for an answer, and he can't be rude because her official report could affect his position as security chief. #Istandwithodo #metoo
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Shifty Nipples posted:Things were different in the 80's than they are now. Can confirm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8
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