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siotle
Nov 2, 2012

Stop that.
Just got out of a game on Alterac where on the third objective, everytime we tried to channel it would crash the game for ~5 seconds or so and we would all disconnect (including the enemy team). But the other team could channel fine.
We ended up using boss to win instead but that was extremely strange.

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No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Overwatch system offers up to 3 loot chests a week but you have to win three games of arcade in order to earn one. Imagine if you had to win brawls to get your loot chest. That would be true torment.

skipThings
May 21, 2007

Tell me more about this
"Wireless fun-adaptor" you were speaking of.

No Wave posted:

Overwatch system offers up to 3 loot chests a week but you have to win three games of arcade in order to earn one. Imagine if you had to win brawls to get your loot chest. That would be true torment.

Would it? At least I could then actually play it instead of have 1 to three guys on my team who go " afk, gonna get my chest either way" haha, great

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

No Wave posted:

Overwatch system offers up to 3 loot chests a week but you have to win three games of arcade in order to earn one. Imagine if you had to win brawls to get your loot chest. That would be true torment.

This is funny cause me and a bunch of others wish that the arcade conditions were changed in Overwatch so that the lootboxes just required games played instead of wins. Of course over there you have to win 9 games instead of playing 2-3 and sometimes that can take forever if you can't get a winning game

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I think brawls in Overwatch are fine because you can choose between a couple of them. And one of them is always Mystery Heroes which is random map with a random hero every time you respawn. That leads to bullshit situations like the enemy team having a healer that never dies or Torbjorn locking down a map because nobody can kill his turret. But at least it lasts shorter than most HotS brawls and you know that somebody like a Hammer or a Chromie might not be a constant nuisance.

HotS has a smaller playerbase and you don’t want to split the playerbase too much, but I still think it would be better if Trial Grounds was available all the time: https://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Trial_Grounds

Froghammer
Sep 8, 2012

Khajit has wares
if you have coin
I've noticed a severe uptick in Rexxars over the course of the past week and a half, and the team that has Rexxar usually wins. Is Rexxar secretly good now?

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Always check hotslogs to remove the variance of your small sample size. Filter hotslogs, of course, to make sure you're not seeing small sample sizes or different populations (e.g. bronzes mixed with diamonds)

Rexxar is 5th highest wr right now, all population + last 7 days. Expand that to past 3 weeks and he drops to 17th, but still 51.9%

He's in the top 1/3rd of the roster with a 52.8% in Diamond + Master, 10th with 53% in Plat + Gold. Seems good.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

BrianBoitano posted:

Rexxar is 5th highest wr right now, all population + last 7 days. Expand that to past 3 weeks and he drops to 17th, but still 51.9%

He's in the top 1/3rd of the roster with a 52.8% in Diamond + Master, 10th with 53% in Plat + Gold. Seems good.

Also if you filter for only people who have Probius at level 10 or higher, he has the highest win rate in the game! Win rates on rarely played characters aren't reliable measures of character balance.

e: some big things to remember are that super unpopular characters tend to get drafted by one-tricks, and that their opponents aren't use to the hero and don't know how to counter them

fool of sound fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jun 23, 2018

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


Did some pro do that "and now rexxar solos the boss super early" thing?

Cuz I've had that happen to me twice this week.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Relentless posted:

Did some pro do that "and now rexxar solos the boss super early" thing?

Cuz I've had that happen to me twice this week.

Yeah I think that the idea of Rexxar as a tanky split-pusher rather than a warrior has finally permeated, and so he at least has a real role now.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I think Rexxar has been able to do boss early since his release. The question has always been if you should take boss early just because you can. It is usually pretty obvious, because he'll gone for a while and his lane opponent should know that is a clear sign that Rexxar is taking merc camps. After all, he is not the kind of guy who waits in a bush for the perfect gank.

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn
also what is up with the thing in the blizzard app that tries to get you to watch specific players on twitch

when it pops up on mine it's a girl 90% of the time, and the only time it wasn't recently it was a guy who was shown cutting up a steak at a dinner table instead of a mug shot of them wearing a headset???

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice
I'm going to take a look at my logs, but I don't think I've EVER seen Probius picked. I have no idea how to support or counter it - I guess you just hard-engage or dive and blow it up?

Also, I want a Protoss Carrier specialist. And Bastion. Make it happen, Blizzard.

Victor Vermis
Dec 21, 2004


WOKE UP IN THE DESERT AGAIN

WITCHCRAFT posted:

also what is up with the thing in the blizzard app that tries to get you to watch specific players on twitch

when it pops up on mine it's a girl 90% of the time, and the only time it wasn't recently it was a guy who was shown cutting up a steak at a dinner table instead of a mug shot of them wearing a headset???

Watching Twitch (..a lot of Twitch) on your connected account now randomly gives loot boxes. I think there's some auto giveaway stuff, too- a box and portraits?

And, as part of the Warcraft event, teams of streamers representing Horde/Alliance are trying to check-off a list of "achievements". They periodically do a Yrel giveaway.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

WITCHCRAFT posted:

also what is up with the thing in the blizzard app that tries to get you to watch specific players on twitch

when it pops up on mine it's a girl 90% of the time, and the only time it wasn't recently it was a guy who was shown cutting up a steak at a dinner table instead of a mug shot of them wearing a headset???

You mean the guy who happens to be one of the main casters for HGC EU? I guess when asked to supply a photo for their "featured streamer" feature he just picked whatever was last tagged on Facebook!

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jun 23, 2018

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Relentless posted:

Did some pro do that "and now rexxar solos the boss super early" thing?

Cuz I've had that happen to me twice this week.

It must have shown up somewhere because I've also had multiple games recently with rexxars trying to boss solo early

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

WITCHCRAFT posted:

also what is up with the thing in the blizzard app that tries to get you to watch specific players on twitch

when it pops up on mine it's a girl 90% of the time, and the only time it wasn't recently it was a guy who was shown cutting up a steak at a dinner table instead of a mug shot of them wearing a headset???
If a streamer has built a decent following and is willing to keep their stream PG-13ish, Blizzard will occasionally promote them on the launcher. If a streamer is in Blizzard's good graces they'll give them a stack of codes for every new hero and skin release.

They have plenty of guys in the rotation; I know I've seen Kala, Kendrick, Psalm (rip), and Marche on the launcher.

Erdricks
Sep 8, 2005

There's nothing refreshing like a sauna!
I would totally recommend checking out hots streamers. Compared to league streamers, they are much more chill and conversational. Also, its pretty nice doing viewer games with pro tier players. And sometimes they do great stuff too. Hosty, from the HGC team Simplicity, played a QM with my six year old this morning and it was super lit.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice
The promoted Twitch streams I've seen on the launcher seem to be 50/50, if anything skewing slightly towards men. I do tend to notice the women more, just because I'm a lonely neckbeard and there is a strong history of stuff like this being dominated by people like me.

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

Polio Vax Scene posted:

Cassia is great get outta here

(I cant play her for more than 2 games without my wrist burning though)

She is like the assassin version of Malfurion or Lunara. You have to be on top of your poo poo. You "spam" (but not randomly and to no effect) your poke, land your dive skills when it's time to follow up (or they do nothing), and you are heavily invested in the position/movement game. I really like playing her with thunderstrokes. Her blind/jab build isn't worth it unless you are drafting as a team and have someone else with blinds the accommodate you. It shines then, but otherwise people will walk out of your blind before it even casts, or if they are lazy just walk out before you do any damage.

I find Malf extremely tedious, but enjoy playing Lunara and Cassia. I don't know why. It's really the same playstyle.\

edit: In all seriousness I get like 5 recommended streamers from the blizzard app, and one of them is the steak dinner guy. I don't have enough free time to watch people play the game that I want to play, and I don't think their suggestions are sexist or anything. Just comedic and like it's Blizzard, they can do better than that. Even if I watched twitch, loving Steak Guy would inspire zero confidence or interest in me doing so. It is a circus of sharts.

WITCHCRAFT fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jun 23, 2018

floofyscorp
Feb 12, 2007

Who the heck is 'steak dinner guy'? I like watching HotS streamers(mostly the TGN Squadron lot) and they make nice background noise while I work. My Battle.net app is just showing Selenityy right now, which is cool because I like her and if Blizzard are making an effort to showcase more female streamers that's great by me.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Victor Vermis posted:

Watching Twitch (..a lot of Twitch) on your connected account now randomly gives loot boxes. I think there's some auto giveaway stuff, too- a box and portraits?

And, as part of the Warcraft event, teams of streamers representing Horde/Alliance are trying to check-off a list of "achievements". They periodically do a Yrel giveaway.

The payout on loot boxes is actually pretty good. Not clear if it's a random draw or an algorithm or what, but over the course of the last week and a half they've been doing it, I've gotten like 5-6 boxes from a total of maybe 8-10 hours of streams. And a fair amount of that time was keeping a stream running in the background while I did something else.

Otherwise it's 3 hours to get a rare box and 6 to get some meaningless portraits.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

floofyscorp posted:

Who the heck is 'steak dinner guy'? I like watching HotS streamers(mostly the TGN Squadron lot) and they make nice background noise while I work. My Battle.net app is just showing Selenityy right now, which is cool because I like her and if Blizzard are making an effort to showcase more female streamers that's great by me.

One thing this event has done for me is get me to watch streamers I would have never watched before since now I have a motive to have the tab open. Selenityy is one of them and yeah her stream seems pretty good. Good stuff from Blizz there.

tcjimbo
May 15, 2008

This is Jimbo!
Hey-hey, man!
We got this!

I had a motherfucker today who wanted to pick lost vikings on cursed hollow. I got all goons on board to support him and his decision. He then swaps over to medic because "vikings are gay."

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

Corsair Pool Boy posted:

The promoted Twitch streams I've seen on the launcher seem to be 50/50, if anything skewing slightly towards men. I do tend to notice the women more, just because I'm a lonely neckbeard and there is a strong history of stuff like this being dominated by people like me.

I've only seen the women, and none of them seem to be high ranked. Like, Mewn levels of bad.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
I like to mix up streams between GM types and plat/diamond types because it really does provide context for gameplay styles and decisions. I've been enjoying Kala play his coaching account from Silver to Platinum, trying to see if he can get to masters.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

floofyscorp posted:

Who the heck is 'steak dinner guy'?

TrikSlyr. Like I said earlier, HGC EU caster guy.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
It sounds like you don't like steak.

lucifirius posted:

I've only seen the women, and none of them seem to be high ranked. Like, Mewn levels of bad.
They're worse, mewn's regularly GM and I think nobody on the launcher besides Trik has been. I don't think GM players are capable of keeping it family friendly enough to be on the launcher.

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006

Mierenneuker posted:

TrikSlyr. Like I said earlier, HGC EU caster guy.

He also used to be a community manager for Blizzard.

lucifirius posted:

I've only seen the women, and none of them seem to be high ranked. Like, Mewn levels of bad.

Isn't Mewn in masters? There are definitely more skilled players streaming but I think a lot of people in this thread would love to be "Mewn levels of bad."

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM
Hey Macaluso, tell me what you think of the first 1:20 of this video.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Shadowlyger posted:

Hey Macaluso, tell me what you think of the first 1:20 of this video.

Good use of game mechanics TBH

Erdricks
Sep 8, 2005

There's nothing refreshing like a sauna!

No Wave posted:

It sounds like you don't like steak.

They're worse, mewn's regularly GM and I think nobody on the launcher besides Trik has been. I don't think GM players are capable of keeping it family friendly enough to be on the launcher.

Marche is GM and regularly on the launcher. Steph is a girl, GM, and also regularly on the launcher too.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
There a fair number of promoted diamond players as well

MasterControl
Jul 28, 2009

Lipstick Apathy

Mierenneuker posted:

TrikSlyr. Like I said earlier, HGC EU caster guy.

Used to dig Tim’s stream but he started to do the “ba da bop ba ba” singing tic almost every minute and it drove me up the wall. Petty reason I know but it happens all the time. In general Kendrick and grubby are my top two streamers followed by memelord chu whose actually made me a good azmo player and dunk train.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

pyromance posted:

Isn't Mewn in masters? There are definitely more skilled players streaming but I think a lot of people in this thread would love to be "Mewn levels of bad."

Yeah he's master but sometimes he gets incredibly tilted and that just tanks his performance, and this is without the trolls in his games.

I say it more as a joke since I enjoy watching the guy and want him to be happy with the game.

He clearly knows his stuff and has the game knowledge, but there are times when he makes lovely plays like dragonblading at 25% health and diving under their towers.

I guess I put Mewn at the bottom tier of master streamers, next to Procraft, as the streamers that are sometimes mentioned as the people to watch, while the more recommended and recognized are BamBam, Grubby, Fan, Psalm, Alex, Chu8, and a few other streamers that may or may not be pros as well.

EdRush
Dec 13, 2005

by R. Guyovich

lucifirius posted:

BamBam, Grubby, Fan, Psalm, Alex, Chu8, and a few other streamers that may or may not be pros as well.

Won't be seeing much HOTS from Psalm in the near future. Tempo got bodied so hard at Mid Season Brawl he retired to be a pro Fortnite player

https://twitter.com/psalmHotS/status/1010311555190349824

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

EdRush posted:

Won't be seeing much HOTS from Psalm in the near future. Tempo got bodied so hard at Mid Season Brawl he retired to be a pro Fortnite player

https://twitter.com/psalmHotS/status/1010311555190349824

Yeah, that is true now, but weeks and months ago he would be a shining example.

Kala said on his stream that Dreamhack wouldn't let Psalm take a piss in between matches. Poor dude, I know what it's like to be drinking water at those amounts, and to have to hold it for hours while playing pro? Ow.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




who the gently caress plays pro fortnite?

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McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

banned from Starbucks posted:

who the gently caress plays pro fortnite?

A billion people if its twitch popularity is any indication.

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