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Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

90s Cringe Rock posted:

"I'm a huge enthusiast of the whole ''Crusade movement''" is possibly not the best way to phrase that. It's also not a campaign to create an RPG, it's a campaign to buy the reference books to create an RPG. At some point. "Risks and challenges: The main challenge we will have to face is time itself. I have several jobs at the moment but I think I can fully give all of my remaining free time working on the game (apart from work I have no distractions)." Don't worry, there'll be another kickstarter to fund the actual game.

I wish this guy luck in getting people to buy his amazon wishlist, I guess.

huge fan of the crusades, me

i collect them and sort them by atrocity

albigensian? oh man good choice, good choice, i love the slaughter of defenseless French pacifists

livonian, now, that's a good one

but I mean, the real key to the movement, the crescendo? gotta be children's

big fan of the children's crusade

third? *sucks teeth* nah you don't want third

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


When someone says "I'm a huge enthusiast of the Crusades" what he actually means is he's a massive Islamophobe.

Jedit fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jun 21, 2018

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Jedit posted:

When someone says "I'm a huge enthusiast of the Crusades" what he actually means is he's a massive Islamophobe.
This isn't the Good TG Kickstarters Thread 3.

In lighter news there's a new kickstarter for 28mm skeletons and for $15 you get six skeleton schnauzers. Which is a rip-off because they're tiny, but they are cute.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Jedit posted:

When someone says "I'm a huge enthusiast of the Crusades" what he actually means is he's a massive Islamophobe.

I kinda wish there were Saladin fanboys out there, but then they'd just ship him with Stephen Universe or something.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

90s Cringe Rock posted:

This isn't the Good TG Kickstarters Thread 3.

In lighter news there's a new kickstarter for 28mm skeletons and for $15 you get six skeleton schnauzers. Which is a rip-off because they're tiny, but they are cute.

I misread schnauzers as schnozes and thought that selling skeleton noses was a brilliant scam.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Wyrd finally locked their The Other Side KS, so looking forward to them getting it shipped out. They've had a hell of a year so far with multiple delays in shipping from China and customs, but hopefully they'll get back up to speed.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Bruceski posted:

I misread schnauzers as schnozes and thought that selling skeleton noses was a brilliant scam.

My brain briefly spasmed and thought a schnauzer was a type of German tank, and I envisioned them made entirely out of bones and it was rad as gently caress.

occamsnailfile
Nov 4, 2007



zamtrios so lonely
Grimey Drawer

Mekton Zero Kickstarter posted:


Which leads to this decision. While I still intend to finish Mekton Zero, I have come to the conclusion that it is not fair for me to continue to commit the time and money you have invested in this project any longer, or to make you wait until I wrap Mekton Zero up.

Therefore I'm going to REFUND everyone who has committed money to this project (and who hasn't already taken advantage of our previous buy out offer). We are in the process right now of setting this up (via Paypal) and sending out refunds to all of you. If you no longer have a Paypal account or have changed email addresses, please contact us through this site and let us know to make other arrangements.

We WILL finish Mekton Zero, but since how long that will take is indeterminate (due to all these other commitments), I feel this is the best option for now.

However, when Zero finishes, EVERYONE who has still been committed to the project will still receive their copies of the book, their figures, their t-shirts, their bumper stickers and all the other paraphernalia that we planned. This is the only fair thing to do for our fans who have faithfully stuck with us through the long haul.

Thank you again. You guys have really been champs and we really appreciate your patience and understanding. And we will make sure that patience is rewarded.

Mike Pondsmith


I did wonder somewhat at the announcement of Cyberpunk 2077. This of course is after their struggles to convert files from Quark format and assorted other huge delays. But, cool I guess?

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Holy poo poo, an actual update about Mekton Zero. Glad to be getting my money back at least, though getting the game free if it ever comes out is neat. (It won't)

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes




It is when you're a white supremacist and you long for an opportunity to drive back the musselman hordes.

Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

Not long left on the Stonehaven Adventurers KS - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2087444096/stonehaven-adventurers-2018

I caved and pledged despite having like a mountain of unpainted stuff.

Stonehaven are cool and good and deserve support, I've backed them a couple of times before and not had any trouble (the Giants KS was a bit delayed but well within norms for KS).

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

occamsnailfile posted:

I did wonder somewhat at the announcement of Cyberpunk 2077. This of course is after their struggles to convert files from Quark format and assorted other huge delays. But, cool I guess?

It could be them just back-burnering it so they could focus on getting The Witcher RPG out for GenCon or the like. I know they had The Witcher close to finished at last year's GenCon, but wanted to make sure Mekton Zero landed first. They could be shifting priorities, particularly if Cyberpunk 2077 has to become a priority product as well.

It's all just a guess, but I've been left wondering why I haven't heard much more about The Witcher in the meantime other than knowing approval was likely to be a lengthy process.

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


Escape from the Dark Castle seems like a kind of neat light beer and pretzels RPG that I could play with family and friends less into tabletop stuff, and is coming up on its final week. Has anyone picked up the game from its first KS and can give their impressions?


Mors Rattus posted:

huge fan of the crusades, me

i collect them and sort them by atrocity

albigensian? oh man good choice, good choice, i love the slaughter of defenseless French pacifists

livonian, now, that's a good one

but I mean, the real key to the movement, the crescendo? gotta be children's

big fan of the children's crusade

third? *sucks teeth* nah you don't want third

Serendipitously, I just started listening to Thomas Asbridge's history of the Crusades on Audible when this came up. It's a very interesting insight into the groundwork of a lot of the issues in the region, but the actual events have been consistently cringeworthy and I don't know how you could possibly romanticize it without distorting it heavily. Pretty horrific stuff all around.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

FunkMonkey posted:

Escape from the Dark Castle seems like a kind of neat light beer and pretzels RPG that I could play with family and friends less into tabletop stuff, and is coming up on its final week. Has anyone picked up the game from its first KS and can give their impressions?

I am similarly interested but the price seems pretty high for the components. Still tempted though.

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

Buck Wildman posted:

Escape from the Dark Castle seems like a kind of neat light beer and pretzels RPG that I could play with family and friends less into tabletop stuff, and is coming up on its final week. Has anyone picked up the game from its first KS and can give their impressions?

I asked almost that exact on the previous page, and a few replies seemed to suggest it's not ideal.

In other news, I spotted some SLA Industries: Cannibal Sector 1 minis while I was looking for something else on a retailer site. Weird, as I've heard nothing about my pledge being fulfilled in the slightest.

Today I checked my email and found this:

quote:

Important Update from Nightfall Games

As of 22/06/2018 Nightfall Games Ltd (NFG) have terminated the license agreement with Daruma Productions Ltd for use of SLA material. Going forward NFG will work in association with Word Forge Games (WFG) to look at how best to complete and fulfill the Kickstarter. Be advised that at this time the SLA Industries: Cannibal Sector 1 Kickstarter campaign has no available funds. As such, fulfillment will be as a result of further investment from NFG and WFG. Drauma Productions Ltd is the company that still owns the Kickstarter debt, and although we have tried to purchase that debt, it has not been possible.

That’s the formal statement... but what does that mean to you, the backer? Well simply put, things have not worked out as planned. The Kickstarter dream that Daruma Productions Ltd pushed for was not realised. Exactly how and what went wrong we really can’t say at this point, but we at Nightfall Games recognise that SLA Industries needs to come out on top… and the game needs to be in your hands. As such, Nightfall Games has revoked the license that allowed the SLA Industries world and setting to be used by Daruma Productions Ltd and has formed a new relationship with Word Forge Games. WFG have a huge amount of experience in producing miniatures and miniature games and are working alongside us to consolidate what already exists for SLA Industries: Cannibal Sector 1, what is possible to finish off and what we can do get the game into your hands.

As you’ve probably seen on Facebook, work on the book, the main focus of the Kickstarter, has been ongoing in spite of setbacks. WFG has obtained the majority of the Daruma Productions Ltd SLA Industries stock (in lieu of payment for unpaid debt) and we are in a good place to resume the work on the Kickstarter once all of the legal crossed Ts and dotted Is have been dealt with.

WFG will be completing a stock take during the next 2 weeks and once we know exactly what there is, we will share with you all and explain our plans in further detail. We are also in discussions over certain assets, which we expect resolution of in the same period.

We know you have not been treated as you (or we) would like to have been and we know this situation is far from ideal (believe us when we say, we wish this had played out differently), but please bear with us while we work out the details and figure out how best to do right by all of you awesome people that supported the campaign. We shall keep you updated as much as we can going forward – expect frequent updates and lots of work by the Nightfall team.

Our heartfelt thanks, apologies and respect,

Nightfall Games

Although this comment seems to suggest the above isn't exactly true:

quote:

Using companies house to look at details combined with Facebook posts means this all stinks of dishonesty.

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


glitchkrieg posted:

I asked almost that exact on the previous page, and a few replies seemed to suggest it's not ideal.

Thanks, sorry to tread old ground. It's definitely looked bare bones from a mechanical standpoint, but the aesthetic is appealing and I'm deliberately looking for something easily accessible. I'll have to chew it over.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
Tachyon Squadron (a Fate supplement about being fighter pilots leading dramatic lives in the Star Totally-Not-International-Brigades) has about one week to go and needs another $8000 for Evil Hat to include detailed spaceship creation rules (as it stands, spaceship stat blocks are provided for the handful of ships in the setting, but that's it), which would really help me in reusing it to run Star Wars games. :v:

I did a quick write-up of the dogfighting rules here, in case anyone is curious - it's a pretty good and elegant system for running them in Fate.

e; vv thanks.

Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jun 25, 2018

inklesspen
Oct 17, 2007

Here I am coming, with the good news of me, and you hate it. You can think only of the bell and how much I have it, and you are never the goose. I will run around with my bell as much as I want and you will make despair.
Buglord
I don't think that writeup link goes where you were intending.

Kerro
Nov 3, 2002

Did you marry a man who married the sea? He looks right through you to the distant grey - calling, calling..

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

I am similarly interested but the price seems pretty high for the components. Still tempted though.

The art made it look cool and I was sort of interested until I saw someone describe it in a review as being like 'Talisman but with fewer choices' and saying that it would probably hit the table more often for them due to being a shorter, simpler version of Talisman.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Why is there always at least one third party Blood Bowl team Kickstarter running

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

There's always at least one kickstarter going selling this miniature (from the Solomon Kane KS)

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

is that thing even paintable

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
Life finds a way.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Life finds a way.

And that way is washes. Lots of washes.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Guy Goodbody posted:

Why is there always at least one third party Blood Bowl team Kickstarter running

Because GW is juggling a half dozen Specialist Games titles now and thus isn't putting out Blood Bowl teams as fast as people want.

Plus, you know, titty miniatures.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

glitchkrieg posted:

I asked almost that exact on the previous page, and a few replies seemed to suggest it's not ideal.
full disclosure: I decided to cancel my pledge and put it all on the upcoming (29th) dungeon degenerates kickstarter instead, apparently it'll have eu-friendly shipping.

also an even more eye-searing aesthetic

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

Guy Goodbody posted:

Why is there always at least one third party Blood Bowl team Kickstarter running

Loads of teams are still underrepresented, plus it's easy to come up with an interesting theme for BB teams and make minis for them. BB has loyal enough fans to have kept it alive while GW dropped it, so it's fairly lucrative.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Consentacle finally arrived, and my wife and I gave it a shot.

Playing on any difficulty below "no talking or suggestive hand motions whatsoever" seems way too easy. Also playing without the extra power cards is fine exactly once then too simple.

Overall, it's fine for a simple low communication coop and the theme is very sex positive which is why we backed it in the first place.

Oh yeah and the plastic tokens are actually pretty and feel nice.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...
I could see it being good fun with a romantic partner but man i can't stand the alien design. (If it's the one i'm thinking of)

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




It is, and I can understand that, though I just read Dawn by Octavia Butler and yeah alien design is tricky.

I actually do really like the art, as it happens.

Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

Guy Goodbody posted:

Why is there always at least one third party Blood Bowl team Kickstarter running

Because GW abandoned the game for a long time despite how popular it is, and BB Teams are relatively easy for small independent minis companies to produce. There are several companies who basically do nothing but alternate BB Teams (Impact and Willy Miniatures come to mind). Subsequently there's a lot of momentum and increased impetus for these companies to provide miniatures for teams which haven't been covered by GW yet (and in some cases they are re-releasing existing teams at a higher scale to match the new GW stuff).

They can also give a lot of variety to the models instead of say everyone using the exact same Human figures, and have a bunch of extra stuff like dugout support crew and the like which GW don't make yet.

Plus yes in some cases they are titty minis.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...

silvergoose posted:

Dawn by Octavia Butler
Just looked that up and it does sound interesting. I take it you'd recommend it?

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

glitchkrieg posted:




Although this comment seems to suggest the above isn't exactly true:

This is apparently what the Daruma facebook post was, it's now been removed from their facebook page:

quote:

Time to come clean - we have a big issue with fulfilling the Kickstarter, and also with being able to move forward in any meaningful way. The Kickstarter update which went out this evening was not from Daruma. Please let me be very clear and specific on this - that was not a Daruma update, it was made illegally by Mark Rapson of Wordforge - he was already informed not to use the Kickstarter logins that he'd been given and claimed to not have them, clearly a lie (he has also, against Kickstarter regulations, changed the passwords). The Nightfall team are desparate to save the Kickstarter, which we fully understand but unfortunately Dave and Jared have resigned from Daruma and given the Kickstarter logins to Word Forge Games, that they have taken this step is understandable but also, unfortunately.. illegal in several ways - ways that they were fully informed of prior to taking this action.


As all other 3 Directors resigned from Daruma before i became fully aware of just how difficult the situation was - i am, currently, last man standing as they clearly knew more than I did and jumped ship first. As there are a great many other debts owed by Daruma i have a legal obligation to follow a certain path.. a path which i will be following with some no small degree of sadness and reluctance and could not, until this point even discuss. Unfortunately.. this means that the stock which Nightfall has had transferred to Wordforge doesn't belong to them.. it still belongs to Daruma, even though i acknowledge Word Forge as a debt. And as such, any attempt to distribute or dispose of it will be illegal - as Daruma is about to commence down a path toward Liquidation.. we cannot and have not in any way shape or form agreed to a transfer of these goods, as Daruma doesn't actually own them at this point. Please let me reiterate that, for very relevant legal reasons - the other Creditors are all fully entitled to a share of any and all remaining assets that Daruma possess, every single one of those Creditors has the very same legal claim to those goods that Mark Rapson and Wordforge has and this action is in no way a Daruma action nor has been sanctioned by Daruma.
It is also the case that although Mark is now a Director with Nightfall and has the SLA IP, the CS1 IP is derivitive and belonged to Daruma as well, and we have not agreed to transfer that IP under any circumstances, and indeed i'm not sure we could do so given the current circumstance.


It may well be that there was a way to perhaps move forward with this regardless, and i was attempting to explore this avenue recently, with little success I might add as Mark Rapsons offer was simply not one i could accept, legally. As it stands, Mark has attacked me directly, personally, acted illegally and has seized, with Nightfalls support, a load of goods that i keep explaining to them.. they cannot take and cannot legally dispose of. If any of you have experience of the liquidation process then you understand the difficult situation in which i find myself - and why i'm taking this extraordinary step in revealing that i have been in discussion with the liquidators before the are "officially" called in. I know how bad this news is, and this is an update that i really wish i never had to make.. but unfortunately Nightfalls new association with Word Forge Games and the illegal actions they are taking have forced my hand - if any other Creditors are reading this, this is not a Daruma sanctioned action and has been taken as the results of some illegal and very dodgy backroom dealing. I'm so sorry.. but i think that these actions have brought an end to any possibility of moving forward and i will be informing the liquidators of this first thing on Monday Morning.

Interestingly both Allsop and Earle, from Nightfall, were also directors at Daruma and had been since the company was founded.

'Nightfall Games' was founded in Feb of this year:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC589969

And has the same Jared Earle and Dave Allsop who quit Darume right before Nightfall then revoked the license to take back the rights, transfered the sculpts/stock to 'worldforge games' (In founding Nightfall they also hosed up and registered word forge as a director).

Daruma's accounts were filed before the kickstarter finished, and they're late with their 2017 accounts.

Without knowing any of the details, it certainly looks as if they've spent all the money, then ditched the company to start a new company to claim the assets as debt, in a typical 'do bad poo poo' directors juggling companies format. Or alternatively Earle and Allsop did it to try and save SLA from the failing kickstarter.

Also, in the 'wtf' area, I can't find any filing for 'Nightfall Games' prior to this new 2018 registration.

PST fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Jun 26, 2018

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.
quote is not edit

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

silvergoose posted:

Consentacle finally arrived, and my wife and I gave it a shot.

Playing on any difficulty below "no talking or suggestive hand motions whatsoever" seems way too easy. Also playing without the extra power cards is fine exactly once then too simple.

Overall, it's fine for a simple low communication coop and the theme is very sex positive which is why we backed it in the first place.

Oh yeah and the plastic tokens are actually pretty and feel nice.

This makes me wish I had backed the physical version.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
I cancelled my backing for Neta-Tanka with some amount of regret. I really think it looks like a good game, but it's hard for me to justify putting down $65 USD for what looks like a pretty light-ish (but charming) worker placement game that I won't get until mid 2019.

Hopefully it'll come to retail and I can pick it up at a discount without missing the "deluxe" components. Only thing I'd really care about is the two-level player boards.

Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

Guy Goodbody posted:

Why is there always at least one third party Blood Bowl team Kickstarter running

Talking of which I just found this - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1901134344/frogs-team-football-fantasy - those froggos are hella cute and GW will never make an official Slaan team. Also I love Morg n Frog and the Kemit Chainsaw looney :D

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Bistromatic posted:

Just looked that up and it does sound interesting. I take it you'd recommend it?

Yeah, I'd recommend it. It's not modern, but it's a very short read, I finished it in under a day, and it's well written.

I'll note my personal preference is against what I'm calling life sciences sci fi (genes, plants, mutations, etc) and I still liked it. It's definitely tentacly, though.

Subjunctive posted:

This makes me wish I had backed the physical version.

The cardstock is good too. I'm really glad I backed it, just the sex positivity of it is refreshing given the state of the world.

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

Cheers for the update, that certainly makes everything look a lot shadier.

Zark the Damned posted:

Talking of which I just found this - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1901134344/frogs-team-football-fantasy - those froggos are hella cute and GW will never make an official Slaan team. Also I love Morg n Frog and the Kemit Chainsaw looney :D

I am so tempted by those, as I do want to try a Slann team at some point, plus the Lizards make it a pretty attractive offer...

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Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

So, apparently this is a thing - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/isaacfoursouls/the-binding-of-isaac-four-souls

A Binding of Isaac card game. Featuring lots of dice rolling and randomness and (presumably) little actual strategy beyond 'get good cards and roll well to win'.

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