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StudlyCaps
Oct 4, 2012

Goon Danton posted:

iirc didn't David Icke talk about a secret British government pedophile ring in the 80s before he started on the lizards?

Stuff like that is weird, did actually knowing some hidden truth that no one would believe break him or is it just a stopped clock kinda deal?

Like if Podesta and Clinton actually did turn out to be pedos it still wouldn’t make Pizzagate any less retarded. It’d be more or less a total coincidence.

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Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Cactus posted:

I say to people that lean towards thinking like this that yes, there are real conspiracies! There absolutely are. But those are really boring, they're always about money.. like the Panama files, it's all poo poo like tax evasion and stuff like that. People just want the world to be more convoluted and interesting than it really is.

Convoluted in a way that agrees with their prejudices and proves their special for figuring it out.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The funny part is that everyone said when it came out: "who could have believed this man was a massive kiddy fiddler"

And if you look at any loving picture of him he looks like the most stereotypical sex offender there ever was.

He literally looks like the guy out of the brass eye paedogeddon episode.

Which you should all watch by the way now that we've determined it's a documentary, not satire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jun 24, 2018

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.
I remember as a child in the UK in the '80s asking a distant relative who worked in TV whether Savile was really as creepy as everyone said he was. She said that women knew never to go near his trailer alone.

Turns out the truth was worse than she knew.

The establishment thought he was just a regular Bill Cosby-esque rapist and menace to women. They were OK with that, and it enabled him to cover up the real horror of what he did.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

hitchensgoespop posted:

The problem with poo poo like this is that you can't "....soon....." forever.

Eventually people will turn off. Youll always have the batshit base who have genuine mental issues but the rest will ebb away.

Two loving words man, Hillary Clinton. Not only did it not ebb once, eventually leftists just started repeating that poo poo absolutely wholesale. "People eventually catch on to this poo poo" has been definitively disproved.

StudlyCaps posted:

Stuff like that is weird, did actually knowing some hidden truth that no one would believe break him or is it just a stopped clock kinda deal?

Like if Podesta and Clinton actually did turn out to be pedos it still wouldn’t make Pizzagate any less retarded. It’d be more or less a total coincidence.

Yeah, it's like when Family Guy tried to take credit for a joke about Kevin Spacey being a rapist, despite the fact 86% of all their jokes are "[noun] is a rapist".

Time Crisis Actor
Apr 28, 2002

by Hand Knit
Wasn’t the administration supposed to release an EO ordering the “unredacted” IG report released? Or is that one of those things that’s just going to be pushed off as “coming soon”?

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Deathy McDeath posted:

Wasn’t the administration supposed to release an EO ordering the “unredacted” IG report released? Or is that one of those things that’s just going to be pushed off as “coming soon”?

Too much truth trying to come out at once

hitchensgoespop
Oct 22, 2008

Fulchrum posted:

Two loving words man, Hillary Clinton. Not only did it not ebb once, eventually leftists just started repeating that poo poo absolutely wholesale. "People eventually catch on to this poo poo" has been definitively disproved.


Can you explain this? I'm genuinly interested in what you mean....

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


hitchensgoespop posted:

Can you explain this? I'm genuinly interested in what you mean....

Fulchrum is a die-hard Hillary supporter and thinks the left's criticisms of her are purely based on misinformation and spite, and occasionally goes even further and claims that the left's entire perception of her is a right-wing psyop.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The problem with the trump fans' dislike of hillary wasn't that it was necessarily inaccurate but that it was complemented by "and trump is much better" when he's really obviously just as much of a rich twat but he lies about it more brazenly.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


OwlFancier posted:

The problem with the trump fans' dislike of hillary wasn't that it was necessarily inaccurate but that it was complemented by "and trump is much better" when he's really obviously just as much of a rich twat but he lies about it more brazenly.

Well that's why they felt the need to make up outrageous things to accuse her of, because all the actual criticisms you can levy towards Clinton apply to Trump tenfold.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

hitchensgoespop posted:

Can you explain this? I'm genuinly interested in what you mean....

After Bernie lost Florida but still wouldn't drop out, his supporters started using every right wing attack on her they could come across, linking directly from Breitbart and saying that they were more trustworthy than the ":Clinton News Network", while also bringing up every manufactured BS scandal they could.

Lurdiak posted:

Fulchrum is a die-hard Hillary supporter and thinks the left's criticisms of her are purely based on misinformation and spite, and occasionally goes even further and claims that the left's entire perception of her is a right-wing psyop.

So the tactic now is just pretending that daily links to loving Breitbart by Bernie Supporters, followed by "well, if they're saying it there must be some truth to it" and "a stopped clock is right twice a day", didn't happen?

Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jun 26, 2018

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean they are right in that she's corrupt as hell, murder happy, and likely to be poo poo in all the ways obama was poo poo plus more of her own.

It's just that, y'know, trump is moreso.

She probably doesn't eat children's brains to get high though.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Fulchrum posted:

So the tactic now is just pretending that daily links to loving Breitbart by Bernie Supporters, followed by "well, if they're saying it there must be some truth to it" and "a stopped clock is right twice a day", didn't happen?

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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Lurdiak posted:

Fulchrum is a die-hard Hillary supporter and thinks the left's criticisms of her are purely based on misinformation and spite, and occasionally goes even further and claims that the left's entire perception of her is a right-wing psyop.

Which is weird because there's not much daylight between the two on the single political issue he cares about : bombing lots and lots and lots of foreign children into slag.

U.T. Raptor
May 11, 2010

Are you a pack of imbeciles!?

Fulchrum posted:

So the tactic now is just pretending that daily links to loving Breitbart by Bernie Supporters, followed by "well, if they're saying it there must be some truth to it" and "a stopped clock is right twice a day", didn't happen?
Also cultural osmosis from the literally decades of character assassination and propaganda from Republicans.

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

BarbarianElephant posted:

Well, no supernatural involved. But the whole British establishment was complicit in a pedophile scandal involving many different famous and powerful men. You'd say it was crazy if you didn't know it was true. It was very much "Pizzagate" but real.

I'll give you one crazier, the second most powerful political office in the United States was held by a, in the words of a Federal District Judge, "serial child molester" from 1999-2007 and there has never been a serious investigation into all the times he raped children because of the statute of limitations, none of the people who elevated him to that office ever faced political repercussions for doing so (indeed today they chair the most powerful legislative committees in Washington) and after a guilty plea admitting to the underlying molestation is rolling around a free man today after serving only 13 months in prison.

DynamicSloth fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jun 25, 2018

Source4Leko
Jul 25, 2007


Dinosaur Gum

OwlFancier posted:

The funny part is that everyone said when it came out: "who could have believed this man was a massive kiddy fiddler"

And if you look at any loving picture of him he looks like the most stereotypical sex offender there ever was.

He literally looks like the guy out of the brass eye paedogeddon episode.

Which you should all watch by the way now that we've determined it's a documentary, not satire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU

If this is about Hastert what he did was kinda an open secret where he's from. He was just powerful enough around here that everybody kept their mouths shut.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

Source4Leko posted:

If this is about Hastert what he did was kinda an open secret where he's from. He was just powerful enough around here that everybody kept their mouths shut.

He's referring to Jimmy Saville.

Who could have guessed that this guy wasn't safe to be around kids?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


McGlockenshire posted:



Yup, a Q shirt. At tonight's rally.

Lol they're going to be dead set certain their birther pedo-pizza Demon-crat satanic panic is true for decades to come.

Can't really think of a more effective way to remove yourself voluntarily from society, short of suicide.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Fulchrum posted:

So the tactic now is just pretending that daily links to loving Breitbart by Bernie Supporters, followed by "well, if they're saying it there must be some truth to it" and "a stopped clock is right twice a day", didn't happen?

this didn't happen

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


So I ventured on to the QAnon reddit board and with all the time sensitive dates having fallen flat on their faces it’s devolved into basically the_donald 2.0 with a light smattering of conspiracy. The top threads are about Trump talking poo poo about the Red Hen and then various tweets about immigration. I wonder if the thrill of the LARP is wearing off for a lot of Qultists and now they’re reverting to just regular lovely people instead of bat poo poo insane lovely people

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


They're reverting back down to bat poo poo insane.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
It Came From /R/Greatawakening



In unrelated news, Trump will save all the children, Democrats are child sex traffickers, the Podesta brothers kidnapped Madeleine McCann, and Hillary Clinton fillets off children's faces and slurps adrenochrome out of 8 year olds' spinal taps like Barney Gumble with an unattended Duff keg.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Who's gonna bite the bullet and google "adolf hitler quotes" to find out that Hitler never even said that?

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

Lurdiak posted:

Who's gonna bite the bullet and google "adolf hitler quotes" to find out that Hitler never even said that?
Someone in the thread asked for a source and they were told to go read some David Irving.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Lurdiak posted:

Who's gonna bite the bullet and google "adolf hitler quotes" to find out that Hitler never even said that?

It’s a quote that has been applied to both Hitler and Stalin which neither said. The closest thing in Mein Kampf to that quote is about how people who are not good for the state having children is a bad thing (like say immigrants having children if you’re a Nazi gently caress)

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

Dr. VooDoo posted:

So I ventured on to the QAnon reddit board and with all the time sensitive dates having fallen flat on their faces it’s devolved into basically the_donald 2.0 with a light smattering of conspiracy. The top threads are about Trump talking poo poo about the Red Hen and then various tweets about immigration. I wonder if the thrill of the LARP is wearing off for a lot of Qultists and now they’re reverting to just regular lovely people instead of bat poo poo insane lovely people

Well, it wouldn't surprise me if they still believed all of the BASICS of the grand conspiracy are still true - once you start to belive that Trump is a hero fighting against a Satanic network of Deep State Democrats, you're already pretty far gone. But yeah, the thrill of "we're figuring it out in real time, together!" seems to be wearing off.

Sure, most Democrats in Congress are Molech-worshipping child-eating globalists, but maybe we're being strung along about those 30,000 secret indictments, you guys.

selec
Sep 6, 2003

TetsuoTW posted:

this didn't happen

To be fair to Fulchrum, this happened, but with a small number of Sanders supporters, who were crazies from go, whose support was about flipping the table more than it was about his specific policies, or Trump's policies.

For whatever reason (it's not hard to guess this reason though) Fulchrum absolutely has no interest in parsing out the difference and impact between resistance to Clinton that came from ideological/policy perspectives, and resistance that came from loving lunacy.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


If you posted this on a conspiracy nut forum a decade ago, people would assume you were saying :derp: THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!! :derp: policies/rhetoric were part of an NWO plot to enslave us all.

How the times change.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

StudlyCaps posted:

Stuff like that is weird, did actually knowing some hidden truth that no one would believe break him or is it just a stopped clock kinda deal?

Like if Podesta and Clinton actually did turn out to be pedos it still wouldn’t make Pizzagate any less retarded. It’d be more or less a total coincidence.

When you predict so many outrageous things in such a vague and open ended way it'd be more improbable you wouldn't get kinda-sorta vaguely right once in a while. Though as you zoom in on the specifics of what they said back then it becomes increasingly less correct.

Kinda like how so many people pointed to things they said showing how they "predicted" the 2008 economic crisis yet for some reason only a dozen or so guys actually bought credit default swaps or similar instruments to take a position to short the market before it became very obvious to everyone something was wrong.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Lurdiak posted:

Who's gonna bite the bullet and google "adolf hitler quotes" to find out that Hitler never even said that?

Huh I keep coming across #MAGA

UmOk
Aug 3, 2003
Did the Qs make anything of Melanias "I really don't care" jacket? Seems ripe for some secret messages

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


I haven't seen much, my guess is that reconciling "I don't care" with "Hey the Trumps care about children literally anyone" is a huge :can:

Time Crisis Actor
Apr 28, 2002

by Hand Knit
They just regurgitated the “it’s about the fake news” talking point

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

Potato Salad posted:

Huh I keep coming across #MAGA

"Machen den Abschluss Großartig, Aryaners"

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit
So this is an interesting development:https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileak...r%3D5381%23pti3

Although it's not conclusive, to me this adds a little bit more evidence to the hypothesis that Q Anon is a Russian psyop.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Q-tips think the movement is catching on!! in Iran as evidenced by this twitter video of protesters chanting something that sounds like it might be "Q-Anon".

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8tt5xr/iranian_protesters_shouting_qanon_qanon_towards/?sort=top

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Gen. Ripper posted:

Q-tips think the movement is catching on!! in Iran as evidenced by this twitter video of protesters chanting something that sounds like it might be "Q-Anon".

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8tt5xr/iranian_protesters_shouting_qanon_qanon_towards/?sort=top

I'd love to know what actual arabic phrase they're chanting but before that I want to remind everyone that they think "Cofeve" is angel speak for "Victory" so I'm sure this is the part where someone explains that it ties into Revelation somehow.

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Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Wait hold up there are angels in this now? I mean I can't be surprised they're showing up if Team Satan is the bad guys, but still.

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