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Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer
The only part about TLJ that bothered me was How the whole movie takes place over 18 - 24 "real time" hours, but Rey is clearly on Luke's planet for significantly longer than that. I understand that the day/night cycles are different from planet to planet. It just didn't add up for me.

Otherwise it's great and everyone should watch it.

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Parachute
May 18, 2003

Sock The Great posted:

The only part about TLJ that bothered me was How the whole movie takes place over 18 - 24 "real time" hours, but Rey is clearly on Luke's planet for significantly longer than that. I understand that the day/night cycles are different from planet to planet. It just didn't add up for me.

Otherwise it's great and everyone should watch it.

time always works weird in the series when dealing with Jedi School

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Sand Monster posted:

My main criticism for The Last Jedi is that the primary plot point makes no sense (spoiled as there's at least one person here who was debating watching it for the first time): the slow speed chase that takes up 80% of the movie is absurd -- how does The First Order not use its seemingly infinite resources to warp a few ships ahead of the Resistance convoy, as well as a flanking maneuver from the sides? Instead they're just content to follow along and lob shots at them hoping the shields fail or their fuel runs out? There's certainly a longer list of nitpicks that can be hand waved away but this one seems like very lazy writing.

Hyperspace jumps in Star Wars have always been described as a pretty limited technology though. All of the ships have protections in place so that the navigations don't ever put them too close to dangerous stuff, like other ships. It may not be that easy to tell your nav computer to "jump ahead of those ships so that we end up right in front of them in firing range". It might be impossible to get close enough with just a hyperspace jump, and if you jump too far ahead of them then you're just in the same exact situation, i.e. they see you're there and change course in time to stay out of firing range.

Paper Kaiju
Dec 5, 2010

atomic breadth

Parachute posted:

the worst part of the last jedi was how boring and uninspired the casino looked imo

The entire casino planet sequence was the weakest part of the film, and was completely unnecessary to the story. It's the primary reason I stated earlier that the second act needed one or two more revisions; they could have cut out that entire element and just had the protagonist infiltrating the flagship from the start, expanding that sequence, and perhaps encountering Del Toro's character there.

Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May
TLJ had some good moments but overall was pretty terrible. The central plot points don't make any sense and no amount of "it's subversion guys!" changes that. There are a lot of idiot racists and sexists that hated the film for bad reasons, but there are plenty of good reasons to wonder what the gently caress the writers were thinking.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER

drunken officeparty posted:

How racy does Tom Seguras Netflix stuff get? I’ve been hearing a few clips of him on pandora and he’s super funny. I don’t care about swearing but I want to watch it with my mom and don’t want to hear about sex.

His stuff is hilarious, makes me cry. It's amazing. And there's crazy little sex jokes sprinkled throughout: "Just go ahead and push another knuckle up in there. I'm into rear end play."

Seriously. I wish I could watch with my teenage kids but KNUCKLE DEEP rear end PLAY? Sorry - I'm no prude but drat.

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

yeah when i teach my kids about the birds and the bees it will probably take until about the tenth powerpoint slide before we get to rear end play.

Hackers film 1995 fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jun 28, 2018

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Father Brown is just pure whodunnit and it's really fun.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Wiggles Von Huggins posted:

yeah when i teach my kids about the birds and the bees it will probably take until about the tenth powerpoint slide before we get to rear end play.
And even then, probably a very tiny footnote in script italic so it's just totally unreadable. "Aaaaand just eh, read this when you've got the time. NOW, on to the menses, aka the no-fly-zone."

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


smdh that in 2018 eating rear end wouldn't be on that first powerpoint slide

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Unzip and Attack posted:

TLJ had some good moments but overall was pretty terrible. The central plot points don't make any sense and no amount of "it's subversion guys!" changes that. There are a lot of idiot racists and sexists that hated the film for bad reasons, but there are plenty of good reasons to wonder what the gently caress the writers were thinking.

It makes a ton of sense though. It’s about a bunch of people trying to save the galaxy but failing due to bad information, ego, and hubris.

The point of the film isn’t to subvert, it’s to look at failure in a healthy way, and accept it to do the right thing.

Every character faces failure and their choice is is what leads them to victory or defeat.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Every thread is the star war thread

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

CelticPredator posted:

It makes a ton of sense though. It’s about a bunch of people trying to save the galaxy but failing due to bad information, ego, and hubris.

The point of the film isn’t to subvert, it’s to look at failure in a healthy way, and accept it to do the right thing.

Every character faces failure and their choice is is what leads them to victory or defeat.

Yeah. Hell, empire strikes back had the heroes fail, repeatedly. TLJ just has someone ask them “the gently caress were you thinking?”

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Rogue one is only good if you think of it like a high budget Godfrey ho movie where character from one movie have no business interacting with the other and it's awkwardly stitched together

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Parachute posted:

rogue one was loving awesome are you kidding me? i love that everyone died and there were no loose story ends, + seguing directly in to ANH

Yeah, Rogue One is really good. I think unlike Solo, it actually beat the prequel curse. Did we really need to know how they got the Death Star plans? No, not at all. It was cool to watch, and had it just been cool to watch it wouldn't have been as effective. Where Rogue One excelled is that it actually makes A New Hope a better movie. It manages to heighten the stakes on a movie that is 40 years old, and that's tough to do. Alone, ANH is a fun romp. Oh, there's a Rebellion? Hey, that's kind of cool. We don't know how big they are, but they seem well equipped with a unified goal of defeating the Empire.

Rogue One manages to show that the Rebel Alliance really was an alliance. It was a ragtag group of factions that had a ton of differences, and were ready to completely break up until they got the chance to steal the plans. The rebellion likely would have died if not for the events in Rogue One.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
That and it tied the story of the Rebellion into what was basically a 40’s war movie, which is pretty closely connected to the serials that inspired ANH.

Warm und Fuzzy
Jun 20, 2006

tweet my meat posted:

Father Brown is just pure whodunnit and it's really fun.

There's a great Hell Yeah episode where they give Father Brown a rival, a French thief who steals religious artifacts, and dial the stakes up to 7.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos

Warm und Fuzzy posted:

There's a great Hell Yeah episode where they give Father Brown a rival, a French thief who steals religious artifacts, and dial the stakes up to 7.

Yeah that was an awesome episode.

Tim Whatley
Mar 28, 2010

drunken officeparty posted:

How racy does Tom Seguras Netflix stuff get? I’ve been hearing a few clips of him on pandora and he’s super funny. I don’t care about swearing but I want to watch it with my mom and don’t want to hear about sex.

In his newest one he mimics a gay orgy and chants "I want the cum" several times

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.

Dinosaur Gum

Parachute posted:

the worst part of the last jedi was how boring and uninspired the casino looked imo

Paper Kaiju posted:

The entire casino planet sequence was the weakest part of the film, and was completely unnecessary to the story. It's the primary reason I stated earlier that the second act needed one or two more revisions; they could have cut out that entire element and just had the protagonist infiltrating the flagship from the start, expanding that sequence, and perhaps encountering Del Toro's character there.

Sorry to resurrect this but the whole cantina bit in The Force Awakens (and then in ROTJ there's the jabba's palace bit... is there something in Empire strikes back?) is one of the worst parts of star wars. The WOW DIFFERENT RACES! LOOK AT THIS CRAZY LOOKING ALIEN! Stuff is really dumb. The casino in TLJ and the Maz Kanata stuff in the first one are so cringeworthy too.

I did like that Poe looked like a complete piece of poo poo by the end of TLJ. Also I was extremely hoping for Rei to join Ben Solo and make a new evil Jedi ultimate bad guy squad... but no.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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The different alien stuff is the best part of Star Wars :confused:

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Jabba's Palace is one of the worst parts of RotJ? The movie that's dominated by the Ewok forest scenes?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
Non-special edition Jabbas palace stuff is some of the best stuff in any SW film.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

redreader posted:

(The Last Jedi)
Also I was extremely hoping for Rei to join Ben Solo and make a new evil Jedi ultimate bad guy squad... but no.

You sincerely thought there was even a chance of this happening?

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.

Sand Monster posted:

You sincerely thought there was even a chance of this happening?

It should have because then there would have been a purpose for the movie. Kylo and Rei team up and reek havoc on the universe for the next 10 years and then in movie IX one of them changes to good and they fight with laser swords, or some new good Jedi emerges, like the kid with the broom and he fucks them both up all movie long... with a laser sword... a rainbow colored laser sword.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I love the fact that you ALWAYS know there's going to be a chest-burster of some sort - I mean sure they broke tradition with the back-burster but it was still pretty loving awesome.

Parachute
May 18, 2003

CelticPredator posted:

The different alien stuff is the best part of Star Wars :confused:

yeah, i was definitely referring to how boring the monte carlo ultra luxe location was. i always love seeing more alien stuff.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

Sand Monster posted:

You sincerely thought there was even a chance of this happening?
In the moment I was actually hoping they would join up and go in a third direction to further kill off the past and bury the simplistic Good/Bad split but yeah that’s not what this franchise is about. I realized after the fact that what I really wanted out of this movie was something that completely destroyed what Star Wars is and turned it into something else which will never ever happen.

AngusPodgorny
Jun 3, 2004

Please to be restful, it is only a puffin that has from the puffin place outbroken.
The Last Jedi stood out for how unimaginative it all seemed in comparison to the other movies. Star Wars has tuskans, jawas, and a cantina filled with wretched scum. Then you got things like Jabba's palace, the pod race, the jedi council, even the senate, all filled with various aliens like it's completely normal. The universe is a weird and exciting place.

When the Last Jedi tossed a casino into the story, I figured that was the opportunity for the character designers to go wild, except I got a bunch of humans dressed in black-and-white clothing, plus like one alien doing schtick with BB-8.

The Last Jedi's level of imagination amounted to a woman with lavender hair, and a guy that stutters, both of which I could find at my local college.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I mean yeah if you ignore everything interesting in the movie then there's nothing interesting in it

Like even with the stuff you mentioned, Holdo is pretty neat because she's the first time someone in Star Wars has ever acted like a semi-realistic military officer and the tension between Poe's cool antics and her attempted tactical realism is kind of a nice angle. Benicio del Toro's character's storyline is basically Yojimbo told from one of the gangs' perspective.

The problem with TLJ, such as there is one, is not that it lacks ideas; it's that it needed a little more time in the oven to make those ideas cohere better.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
Apparently they added more episodes of Nailed It on netflix, gonna check that poo poo out when I get home later.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Tim Whatley posted:

In his newest one he mimics a gay orgy and chants "I want the cum" several times

In the first one he also talks about hotel room fuckin’, and there’s definitely something that would be uncomfortable in his second one but I don’t remember what it is.

resident
Dec 22, 2005

WE WERE ALL UP IN THAT SHIT LIKE A MUTHAFUCKA. IT'S CLEANER THAN A BROKE DICK DOG.

david_a posted:

In the moment I was actually hoping they would join up and go in a third direction to further kill off the past and bury the simplistic Good/Bad split but yeah that’s not what this franchise is about. I realized after the fact that what I really wanted out of this movie was something that completely destroyed what Star Wars is and turned it into something else which will never ever happen.

I wanted this to happen so badly... Let’s write fanfic and cry together.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~
Hayao Miyazaki’s first movie, Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro, is on Netflix. It’s nothing like Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro, but it’s a really fun, goofy, slick anime heist flick. If that sounds like it’s up your alley, I’d highly recommend it.

BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Hayao Miyazaki’s first movie, Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro, is on Netflix. It’s nothing like Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro, but it’s a really fun, goofy, slick anime heist flick. If that sounds like it’s up your alley, I’d highly recommend it.

Watched this a couple weeks ago based off another's recommendation, and it really is a great movie! I had never heard of Lupin before this either, but it's definitely got me interested in the series. While I was watching it, my wife came downstairs and immediately said "Oh, Lupin!".

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

BisterdDave posted:

Watched this a couple weeks ago based off another's recommendation, and it really is a great movie! I had never heard of Lupin before this either, but it's definitely got me interested in the series. While I was watching it, my wife came downstairs and immediately said "Oh, Lupin!".

In addition to just having a lot of great entries in general, the various Lupin shows and movies are interesting as a "how animation style and tastes changed over the decades" kind of deal.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Hayao Miyazaki’s first movie, Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro, is on Netflix. It’s nothing like Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro, but it’s a really fun, goofy, slick anime heist flick. If that sounds like it’s up your alley, I’d highly recommend it.

If I have a low tolerance for anime weirdness, will I still like it?

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Nihonniboku posted:

Yeah, Rogue One is really good. I think unlike Solo, it actually beat the prequel curse. Did we really need to know how they got the Death Star plans? No, not at all. It was cool to watch, and had it just been cool to watch it wouldn't have been as effective. Where Rogue One excelled is that it actually makes A New Hope a better movie. It manages to heighten the stakes on a movie that is 40 years old, and that's tough to do. Alone, ANH is a fun romp. Oh, there's a Rebellion? Hey, that's kind of cool. We don't know how big they are, but they seem well equipped with a unified goal of defeating the Empire.

Rogue One manages to show that the Rebel Alliance really was an alliance. It was a ragtag group of factions that had a ton of differences, and were ready to completely break up until they got the chance to steal the plans. The rebellion likely would have died if not for the events in Rogue One.

Agreed 100%. Rogue One had some serious character development problems, but otherwise I thought it was great.

I think Solo was better than it generally gets credit for, but ultimately it added nothing and a lot of the stuff they decided to "explain" was dumb. The new trilogy is just boring as gently caress and I have very little interest in an expanded trilogy. If we are going to have a million star wars movies just make little side stories this new trilogy poo poo isn't working for me at all.

Also Rogue 1 looked amazing.

BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!

Ugly In The Morning posted:

If I have a low tolerance for anime weirdness, will I still like it?

Even when I had a low tolerance for anime, I always enjoyed Miyazaki's films. This one is no different. It's really only anime in the art style, and not weird at all, at least I think so.

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BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!

veni veni veni posted:

Agreed 100%. Rogue One had some serious character development problems, but otherwise I thought it was great.

I think Solo was better than it generally gets credit for, but ultimately it added nothing and a lot of the stuff they decided to "explain" was dumb. The new trilogy is just boring as gently caress and I have very little interest in an expanded trilogy. If we are going to have a million star wars movies just make little side stories this new trilogy poo poo isn't working for me at all.

Also Rogue 1 looked amazing.

I've been saying it before they started this new trilogy, but I really want to see them break away from the Skywalker family line and tell us a completely new story with brand new characters entirely. Rogue One was the closest they've come to this and I thought it was amazing. Most people I've talked to that did not like TLJ say they really enjoyed Solo. Piqued my interest since the trailers really did nothing for me.

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