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qkkl posted:The UK has 227 main battle tanks. There are 48,317 cities, towns and villages in the UK. There no way the UK military at this time could deal with a massive insurrection where every non-military citizen revolted. They could launch a successful blockade of the ports, since Britain is wildly non-selfsufficient, and spend their sweet time weeping out from those areas.also most of those villages are straight up villages lol
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I think the ratio of tanks to towns is actually worse for the us. I just checked and America only has something like 1400 or so active tanks (lots more inactive but so what, they need crews) and Britain has the land area of, like, one or two relatively small U.S states. The US has a lot of tanks in inventory (because we can't stop producing them thanks to Congress) and National Guard depots have inventories of things that technically wouldn't be considered 'tanks' but fit the bill of 'able to crush insurrections with'. I mean, poo poo, there's a place literally 5 minutes from me where you can rent a SPG/APC to crush cars with for $300
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Jul 1, 2018 19:05
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Party Plane Jones posted:The US has a lot of tanks in inventory (because we can't stop producing them thanks to Congress) and National Guard depots have inventories of things that technically wouldn't be considered 'tanks' but fit the bill of 'able to crush insurrections with'. Yeah, but they need crews. Infinite physical tanks doesn't really mean anything if you don't have infinite trained crews to match, and the us military doesn't. Dumb argument anyway because infantry suppresses rebellions not so much massed armor. Armor can't navigate us streets without doing catastrophic damage to said streets. Move a tank column through modern Atlanta and you're functionally a new Sherman because you've destroyed the infrastructure that lets the city function.
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Jul 1, 2018 19:12
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Yeah but what about the infinite black helicopters Big Government would suppress Freedom Loving Americans with if it wasn't for our cult 45s and automatic rifle 15s?
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Jul 1, 2018 19:21
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You forget our police are armed like they too want to go out and fight a warm. Tanks but no tanks!
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Jul 1, 2018 20:39
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Yeah but what about the infinite black helicopters Big Government would suppress Freedom Loving Americans with if it wasn't for our cult 45s and automatic rifle 15s? lt stooge mckillovich sighed and drew his semiautomatic government issue gluck “how do you like 19 rounds of freedom”, he yelled as he shot a sovereign citizen
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Jul 1, 2018 21:46
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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I hope this is just trolling because I don’t know how else someone can take the “all military vs all civilians” concept seriously.
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Jul 2, 2018 06:57
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archangelwar posted:I hope this is just trolling because I don’t know how else someone can take the “all military vs all civilians” concept seriously. service guarantees citizenship
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Jul 2, 2018 07:12
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Guns are first and foremost a disease of the mind Y’all’s media is so saturated with guns everywhere, and violence (ie guns) used as a way to solve any problem, that your solution to the proliferation of guns is... wait for it... more guns In fact I blame American gun culture for the increased militarization of our police, just because your hideous culture of guns and fear has been seeping into our collective unconscious gently caress you very much, Americans
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Jul 2, 2018 07:33
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But didn't you hear?? That one guy who thinks trump has some great ideas totally foiled a robbery once with his tactical operator pistol. So clearly we need to let him buy 90,000 more guns.
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Jul 2, 2018 17:15
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It would take like one APC to crush the 2nd ammendment rebellion because none of them are actually going to resist anything and if they got their guns and went out to fight it would be to join the military in shooting minorities.
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Jul 2, 2018 17:45
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you really should go away for life if it's your gun and this happens. Two-Year-Old in California Dies From Self-Inflicted Gunshot Wound https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/two-year-old-in-fresno-california-dies-from-self-inflicted-gunshot-wound.html
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Jul 9, 2018 13:15
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Groovelord Neato posted:you really should go away for life if it's your gun and this happens. Agreed. They really need tougher storage laws. Canada doesn't have nearly the amount of accidental firearms deaths (per capita) as USA.
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Jul 9, 2018 14:53
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Laws concerning safe storage are incompatible with the narrative that you need to be able to defend yourself with a gun, because a gun that is safely stored cannot be accessed in time should you encounter a situation where you need to use that gun to defend yourself. As soon as gun people concede safe storage, the game is up, because they've at that point admitted that their action hero fantasies are just bullshit.
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Jul 9, 2018 14:57
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suck my woke dick posted:service guarantees citizenship Not in America! We deport those who serve too!
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Jul 9, 2018 14:59
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PT6A posted:Laws concerning safe storage are incompatible with the narrative that you need to be able to defend yourself with a gun, because a gun that is safely stored cannot be accessed in time should you encounter a situation where you need to use that gun to defend yourself. Agreed I keep my revolver in my nightstand ready to go. If I had to unlock a case it would defeat the purpose on having it at bed side.
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PT6A posted:Laws concerning safe storage are incompatible with the narrative that you need to be able to defend yourself with a gun, because a gun that is safely stored cannot be accessed in time should you encounter a situation where you need to use that gun to defend yourself. I don't think that is necessarily true. Someone paranoid or living in a high break in area could easily store a pistol beside in a electric lockbox that takes all of 1 second to open.
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Jul 10, 2018 04:48
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Yeah my dad bought an under-the-bed safe that opens with a touch combo for when he finally gets a chance to live out his suburban action hero fantasies
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Jul 10, 2018 05:01
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Move a tank column through modern Atlanta and you're functionally a new Sherman because you've destroyed the infrastructure that lets the city function. Eh, not necessarily. A lot of roadway design now involves around HS-20 loading, so even in center centers, when roads are replaced, what is installed should be capable of short-term HS-20 loading (i.e. 32,000 lbs/axle, which equates to a point load of 16,000 lbs per wheel). By comparison, an M1 Abrams has a point load of about 10,300 lbs per track wheel. This is why construction companies can bring in mobile cranes to city centers for various work - long term, they'll put down load spreading plates, especially when the crane outriggers are deployed, but for short-term circumstances, the roadway is generally fine.
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SourKraut posted:Eh, not necessarily. A lot of roadway design now involves around HS-20 loading, so even in center centers, when roads are replaced, what is installed should be capable of short-term HS-20 loading (i.e. 32,000 lbs/axle, which equates to a point load of 16,000 lbs per wheel). By comparison, an M1 Abrams has a point load of about 10,300 lbs per track wheel. It's not the weight of the tank that ruins roads. It's the tracks tearing them up as they drive along.
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Jul 10, 2018 10:32
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Stretch Marx posted:It's not the weight of the tank that ruins roads. It's the tracks tearing them up as they drive along. I thought the real issue was all the cans of redbull, packs of darts and the tins of cope that are left behind.
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Jul 10, 2018 11:19
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zapplez posted:I don't think that is necessarily true. Someone paranoid or living in a high break in area could easily store a pistol beside in a electric lockbox that takes all of 1 second to open. You are aware that safe storage laws generally require gun to be stored completely empty and ammo to be stored separately in another safe location, correct? Loaded gun sitting in a box accessible within a second is not considered safe storage.
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Jul 10, 2018 17:14
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archangelwar posted:You are aware that safe storage laws generally require gun to be stored completely empty and ammo to be stored separately in another safe location, correct? Loaded gun sitting in a box accessible within a second is not considered safe storage. Vastly dependent on the state.
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Jul 11, 2018 09:27
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archangelwar posted:You are aware that safe storage laws generally require gun to be stored completely empty and ammo to be stored separately in another safe location, correct? Loaded gun sitting in a box accessible within a second is not considered safe storage. Yeah but while brandishing an empty gun to deter a "home invader" is extremely stupid, it is still miles better than shooting a loaded gun at a "home invader" to deter them
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Jul 12, 2018 07:35
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guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?"
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Jul 12, 2018 12:01
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banned from Starbucks posted:guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?" You're one of those believes in "a good guy with a gun"?
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Jul 12, 2018 12:10
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banned from Starbucks posted:guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?" Is that how you reacted when you experienced a home break in with kids in the house?
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I agree that rare edge cases are what should determine our laws, as opposed to what would reduce the total murder rate.
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Jul 12, 2018 12:26
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banned from Starbucks posted:guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?" Wait so in your weird home protection fantasy even the dude invading your home doesn't have a gun? So you could just taze them or maybe even just block a bedroom door? lol
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banned from Starbucks posted:guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?" yeah ok thanks for your contribution oscar pistorius
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Jul 12, 2018 12:33
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I was really expecting more from a guy with the username "banned from Starbucks."
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Jul 12, 2018 14:20
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banned from Starbucks posted:guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?" Statistically you're much more likely to plug one of the kids when they're up late to go get a glass of water and they make a noise.
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Jul 12, 2018 15:27
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banned from Starbucks posted:guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?" gunfucker jerkoff fantasies are weird
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Jul 12, 2018 15:31
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banned from Starbucks posted:guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?" guy who thinks his masturbatory fantasies will play out that way irl: "yo i got this gun....wait sorry it's upstairs....could you stop jacking my possessions so i can find my gun and load it? what's that? you're already gone? poo poo, another chance to be a hero lost"
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Elizabethan Error posted:guy who thinks his masturbatory fantasies will play out that way irl: "yo i got this gun....wait sorry it's upstairs....could you stop jacking my possessions so i can find my gun and load it? what's that? you're already gone? poo poo, another chance to be a hero lost" "Oh, what's that? You stole my loaded gun and are going to shoot me with it now?"
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Jul 12, 2018 16:09
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That's why you keep it loaded under your pillow so as soon as you hear a bump in the night you can be a superhero and totally waste that robber/motorist looking for help/your kid sneaking back in/significant other/etc
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banned from Starbucks posted:guy who never experienced a home break in with kids in the house: "Heh no man it's cool come on in and do whatever. Oh those screams yeah that's my wife and kids just ignore them heh. Naw bro I'm chill I totally "get" your situation. Lay down on the floor while you duct tape my arms and legs? No prob I'm cool. I mean I guess you can go upstairs to where my family is panicking and calling 911 with that knife did I mention how chill I am?" “oops i murdered my kids cause i thought they were a burglar” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Nothing is more important to me than the safety of my kids, other than having loaded guns in the house, which is more important to me than the safety of my kids.
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Jul 12, 2018 18:30
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D&d goons can't possibly envision a scenario in which they aren't completely incompetent or their kids massively stupid.
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banned from Starbucks posted:D&d goons can't possibly envision a scenario in which they aren't completely incompetent or their kids massively stupid.  link
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