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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
lol only predatory female teachers make the news because its social engineering to pretend that the trend is the same among both genders but everyone knows the creepy teacher guy who hosed girls before or after graduation and they never fire him

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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

owned

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


LooksLikeABabyRat posted:

Obviously I’m not thrilled with how things ended up, and I was dreading making this post, but I do appreciate all of the support you all have given me these past few weeks. It’s made it much easier to cope with everything having your words of encouragement and your sharing of similar experiences. No matter what ends up happening, I have faith that my daughter will make it out of this okay, and I will be there to help her through the hard times no matter what.

I don't buy it.

But obviously, if it's real, OP needs to move to an assisted living facility before they choke on a hotdog, and Mr Smith needs to be buried at sea before he grooms another victim.

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Fallen Rib

LooksLikeABabyRat posted:

Should I be concerned about my daughter’s (18 F) relationship with her married teacher (40s M)?

Change your last name to Bungler so people can identify you as a bungler right away.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
I had an 8th grade teacher yell at the girls to close their legs when they're sitting, as he wasn't there for "cheap thrills."

I mean, how much more obvious can you make it that you were peering up their skirts?

Milotic
Mar 4, 2009

9CL apologist
Slippery Tilde
How old is 8th grade? Year 8 over here would be 12/13.

Anyway, the want to be detective just wants to sexually assault the wife right?

Me [27 F] with my Husband [28 M] married for 2 years. I got a call from his 'friend' that he has been cheating on me but things don't add up.

quote:

u/handsomehubby12
My husband 'Sean' has always been a huge fitness and gym enthusiast. He is extremely good looking and always has multiple women flirting/hitting on him and this has always been a big insecurity of mine so maybe that's why I am so paranoid.

Recently about 7 months ago a new couple 'Dylan and Flora' moved into our area. They are both 23 and out of college. Flora and my husband met while playing tennis as they both go to the same club and they get along great. I always thought she had a crush on him but as she is(was?) respectful, so I left it at that. Soon my husband invited her to the Gym he goes.

Now, a week ago I get a call from Dylan saying that one of the guys in the Gym had seen my husband and Flora kissing just outside our apartment building. He also gave me three instances when Flora was out and asked whether I could account for my husband. I said I’d call him back so I could check my calendar. I’d been with him all three times. When I called back he said she had condoms in the glove-box of her car and she’d been checking out hotel sites. She’s also very secretive about her phone now.

I went through his phone and social media as we are very open about these things and there was no sign of an affair although they had been texting quite a bit(about tennis etc.) and she has always been very complimentary but my husband has not responded/flirted back. It sounds like Flora is up to something but I pray to God it’s not with my husband. So why phone me? We have very loving relationship and he doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would cheat.

Even worse, the guy called me again last night asking that I go on some sort of stake-out with him. She says she’s away with work next week and he’s sure it’s not true. He’s hoping to catch her at it.

Should I go too and keep everything crossed it’s not my husband? Should I just confront my husband or just lay low and hope for the best. This is tearing me apart now and I have not been able to sleep since.

tl;dr: Friend is concerned that his Gf is cheating with my husband but I am questioning the circumstances.

Like you checked the dates and he has an alibi with you, you’re going to implode your marriage.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

when i was in high school the shop teacher would always hang around my girlfriend's table and try to look down her blouse and always asked her to stay after class and commented on how her uniform was fitting and that kind of poo poo.

but it was twenty years ago so all it ever came to was "yeah everyone knows he's a creepy perv just stay away from him"

e: he also had a flat spot on his head from where he got hit with an i-beam or something when he was younger

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Milotic posted:

How old is 8th grade? Year 8 over here would be 12/13.


13/14 in the states.

E:


quote:

the guy called me again last night asking that I go on some sort of stake-out with him.

Yes, a 'stake-out'

tactlessbastard fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jul 2, 2018

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Milotic posted:

How old is 8th grade? Year 8 over here would be 12/13.

Anyway, the want to be detective just wants to sexually assault the wife right?

Me [27 F] with my Husband [28 M] married for 2 years. I got a call from his 'friend' that he has been cheating on me but things don't add up.


Like you checked the dates and he has an alibi with you, you’re going to implode your marriage.

it sounds like the detective guy is paranoid about his wife cheating on him (maybe she is, who knows) and he knows it's with the handsome guy at the tennis club so he's trying to both catch her in the act and, as a consolation prize, gently caress that guy's wife too

ask hubby to :sever: with the tennis partner and maybe report detective man to the cops

Ouhei
Oct 23, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Pick posted:

lol only predatory female teachers make the news because its social engineering to pretend that the trend is the same among both genders but everyone knows the creepy teacher guy who hosed girls before or after graduation and they never fire him

It's fairly difficult to fire a teacher in most states/counties (you need a lot of documented reasons for doing so), if the actual relationship didn't start until after she graduated all they can really do is monitor the crap out of him hoping he makes some sort of mistake and/or not renew his contract when the school year comes up. The guy is a loving creep, but hasn't done anything illegal. Our district here had both situations come up over the years, one where it started while the girl was a student and he was fired right away, one where it started after and the school he was at didn't renew his contract, can't remember if he just went to another school nearby or had to move counties though since he hadn't technically done anything illegal. The laws and such might vary depending on the state though?

Edit for Detective: If she knows her husband isn't cheating (alibi for those times, and she's gone through his phone) wouldn't you just tell your husband what's going on? "Hey Flora's husband is blowing me up thinking his wife is cheating on him with you. What should we do about this?" Also why do people who right these things have to give the dumbest names to people? It makes it so much harder to follow rather than just calling them John and Jane or some poo poo.

Ouhei fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jul 2, 2018

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Yeah there are lots of creepy teachers out there. One of my science teachers always grabbed girls by the shoulders and eventually stopped when enough people mentioned it. Our history teacher got fired for looking at porn while we were watching Schindler's List.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Pick posted:

lol only predatory female teachers make the news because its social engineering to pretend that the trend is the same among both genders but everyone knows the creepy teacher guy who hosed girls before or after graduation and they never fire him

Rather than machiavellian social engineering it's probably the more boring interpretation that anything that is less ordinary is more newsworthy, although no doubt is also ticks the ancient "woman are temptresses" tabloid gimme.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Sagebrush posted:

when i was in high school the shop teacher would always hang around my girlfriend's table and try to look down her blouse and always asked her to stay after class and commented on how her uniform was fitting and that kind of poo poo.

but it was twenty years ago so all it ever came to was "yeah everyone knows he's a creepy perv just stay away from him"

e: he also had a flat spot on his head from where he got hit with an i-beam or something when he was younger

My mother worked in a district office for a decade. I knew of a teacher that left his wife for a student after the student graduated. The district promptly moved for dismisal upon being made aware and the union didn't fight it.

Last I heard from a former student of mine, the kid was miserable. Had a baby right after highschool graduation, the dad is in their late 30s and is unemployable in a professional environment (bit difficult to explain 'terminated for grooming a teenager'), and they both regret their decisions in life.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Don’t gently caress kids! Don’t gently caress people you have an unfair amount of leverage over!

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Elderbean posted:

Our history teacher got fired for looking at porn while we were watching Schindler's List.

Only the classiest educators for our children

Ouhei
Oct 23, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Pick posted:

Don’t gently caress kids! Don’t gently caress people you have an unfair amount of leverage over!

You'd think this would be easy enough advice to follow, but here we are.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Elderbean posted:

Yeah there are lots of creepy teachers out there. One of my science teachers always grabbed girls by the shoulders and eventually stopped when enough people mentioned it. Our history teacher got fired for looking at porn while we were watching Schindler's List.

firing seems a bit harsh, it's merely inconsiderate to not bring enough porn to make Schindler's List watchable for everyone

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Pick posted:

Don’t gently caress kids! Don’t gently caress people you have an unfair amount of leverage over!

Would you call one partner coming from $$$ an unfair amount of leverage?

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

My Imaginary GF posted:

Would you call one partner coming from $$$ an unfair amount of leverage?

It's a red flag for probable total inability to function as a human being, but probably not unfair leverage unless you have no means to support yourself without them

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Pick posted:

Don’t gently caress kids! Don’t gently caress people you have an unfair amount of leverage over!

Ok I'll keep not doing it good thing you said something


We had a chemistry teacher that was young and real cute and all the girls were just slobbering over him and after we graduated I guess one of them finally pulled it off because he got fired and she got expelled.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
I'm super suspicious of a man who becomes a teacher at this point

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

TheScott2K posted:

I'm super suspicious of a man who becomes a teacher at this point

Oh great, you've just condemned another generation of women to the drudgery of education.

Ouhei
Oct 23, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
This does bring up an interesting question though: Is it ever appropriate for a high school teacher to date a former student? Like, if a new teacher (~22/23) taught a kid as a senior (17/18) and they meet up, let's say 10 years later (so 33 and 28ish) is it still not okay?

Personally, I think it would always be weird on some level if they taught them directly, less so if they just taught at the school while they were there. I think Broad City did an episode where Abbi tinder matched with an old teacher and it ended terribly.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


I find it very hard to think of people I met when they were a child as anything but a child, so I would :chloe: at such a relationship.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Pick posted:

Don’t gently caress kids! Don’t gently caress people you have an unfair amount of leverage over!

But beating the poo poo out of them? A-OK.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Ouhei posted:

This does bring up an interesting question though: Is it ever appropriate for a high school teacher to date a former student? Like, if a new teacher (~22/23) taught a kid as a senior (17/18) and they meet up, let's say 10 years later (so 33 and 28ish) is it still not okay?

Personally, I think it would always be weird on some level if they taught them directly, less so if they just taught at the school while they were there. I think Broad City did an episode where Abbi tinder matched with an old teacher and it ended terribly.

Ten years later and they're well within divide-by-two-plus-seven territory? Fine. A 5 year gap counts for a whole lot less in your late 20s than when you're a teenager.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
It’s 100% weird forever

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Doc Hawkins posted:

I find it very hard to think of people I met when they were a child as anything but a child, so I would :chloe: at such a relationship.

I met my wife when she was a child.

(I was also a child)

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

tactlessbastard posted:

Ok I'll keep not doing it good thing you said something


We had a chemistry teacher that was young and real cute and all the girls were just slobbering over him and after we graduated I guess one of them finally pulled it off because he got fired and she got expelled.

We had a married teacher couple at our high school with one of those ultra-creepy dudes who tries real hard to impress the cool 15-year-olds so they'll hang out with him, and when his wife ran off with one of the seniors the entire school had the most intensely cathartic razzing session the world's ever seen before that guy dropped off the edge of the earth

Ouhei posted:

This does bring up an interesting question though: Is it ever appropriate for a high school teacher to date a former student? Like, if a new teacher (~22/23) taught a kid as a senior (17/18) and they meet up, let's say 10 years later (so 33 and 28ish) is it still not okay?

Personally, I think it would always be weird on some level if they taught them directly, less so if they just taught at the school while they were there. I think Broad City did an episode where Abbi tinder matched with an old teacher and it ended terribly.

always weird if you were in a caretaker role over them as a larval person

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Paul Zuvella posted:

But beating the poo poo out of them? A-OK.

Actually my point was I’ve been hit and it was something I didn’t see as being as inherently worse than other forms of abuse but the degree to which people distort narratives never fails to impress

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

TheScott2K posted:

Ten years later and they're well within divide-by-two-plus-seven territory? Fine. A 5 year gap counts for a whole lot less in your late 20s than when you're a teenager.

A note on that rule: does not apply if you're in your mid-20s and the other person is aged 20 - 23. There's a world of difference in maturity between someone about to turn 21, someone who just turned 21, and someone who's gotten over the `~`zomg`~`beer`~`pink foofooo drinks`~`dancing`~` phase of legal drink'n.

Personally, I think folk that just-turned-20 tend to be a more mature than folk who just-turned-21. Made the conscious decision at 26 that it'd just be easier to reject any chick under 23 than it would be to drink til 3am hookup and then have to wake the gently caress up for professional poo poo at 5:30a.

Lasca
May 8, 2007

Yeea it just comes off as creepy.

The math teacher/coach was found to be texting a few former students. I think ages ranged 22-4
Telling his wife then ditching her at the airport on the way to the honeymoon was...a pretty terrible way to go about things. He kept his job there for awile. She worked there too but quit right after. Gross.

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:
Can we please not make the thread entirely about Pick? Pretty please?

CheesyDog
Jul 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I was in a band with my high school Spanish teacher a few years after I had graduated and it still felt weird

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I’ve known two profs who did it as well and there were no repercussions even though the grad students were still active students. Will wonders never cease.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
I think if you spend more than a second to rules-lawyer about appropriate age gaps you should be locked away in an abbey or convent as appropriate

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Motronic posted:

I met my wife when she was a child.

(I was also a child)

IIRC you've mentioned this before, but I can't remember, you're almost the same age?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Grad students: wise adults who are on equal footing with tenured faculty

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Doc Hawkins posted:

IIRC you've mentioned this before, but I can't remember, you're almost the same age?

You might be thinking of me.

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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Doc Hawkins posted:

IIRC you've mentioned this before, but I can't remember, you're almost the same age?

Yes, I'm 3 months older than her. Obviously I'm just being pedantic about the phrasing of what I responded to.

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