Star Trek: *hits blunt* The higher, the fewerrrrrr

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Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Zesty posted:

Original work. Do not steal.

Rrrrrr.... bark bark!!

# ? Jul 3, 2018 21:03

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# ? May 10, 2024 18:20

Shibawanko: Feb 13, 2013

I want Garak to tailor me a suit out of some old wallpaper print and bus seat covers

# ? Jul 3, 2018 22:23

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Shibawanko posted:

I want Garak to tailor me a suit out of some old wallpaper print and bus seat covers

I loved your appearance as every alien from TNG season 1

# ? Jul 3, 2018 22:43

Ofaloaf: Feb 15, 2013

I actually don't know the story about Axanar beyond Wikipedia's "Lawsuit" section of its article on it, which suggests a sort of legal Icarus situation.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:03

Cythereal: Nov 8, 2009; I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Ofaloaf posted:

I actually don't know the story about Axanar beyond Wikipedia's "Lawsuit" section of its article on it, which suggests a sort of legal Icarus situation.

- Fan tries to make fan film

- Fan gets lots of money from other fans

- Fan gets delusions of grandeur

- Fan gets slapped down by the actual IP holder

- Fan turns out to have turning the donations into his personal piggy bank anyway

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:07

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

- No dogs

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:09

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

Cythereal posted:

- Fan tries to make fan film

- Fan gets lots of money from other fans

- Fan gets delusions of grandeur

- Fan gets slapped down by the actual IP holder

- Fan turns out to have turning the donations into his personal piggy bank anyway

�Fan� is putting it mildly. The guy wanted to be a real producer of official Star Trek so badly he convinced himself that CBS/Paramount was going to buy his idea for a new series.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:14

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Kibayasu posted:

�Fan� is putting it mildly. The guy wanted to be a real producer of official Star Trek so badly he convinced himself that CBS/Paramount was going to buy his idea for a new series.

I seem to recall reading that he represented Axanar as being an officially-licensed Trek production, which is how he managed to get some actual professional actors for the "Prelude" thing.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:25

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Ofaloaf posted:

which suggests a sort of legal Icarus situation.

Guy made a genuinely good mockumentary to promote the idea of some kind of Wolf-359 Gettysburg battle that was super impactful on Federation history

The Kickstarter money goes to fund a production studio and not for the feature length fanfilm he promised.

Dude lied to actors saying it was a legit production and continued to use their names as linked to the project after they bailed.

Dude decides to sell branded merchandise to get more money.

Paramount steps in to enforce copyright.

Dude has a screeching meltdown over how the real fans are being silenced and they dont know how to honor the IP, etc etc.

Paramount decides "gently caress it, no more fan films unless you make them for $20 in your garage gently caress this nebulous semipro poo poo"*

*Exceptions are made for productions like Star Trek Continues because they're cool dudes and Paramount doesnt want to kneecap them completely due to this douche.

Guy continues to melt down and act like he is the standard bearer of the house of Roddenberry and His Vision of trek is the One True Path.

gently caress that guy sideways

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:25

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

You forgot the step where Axanar guy was constantly ratting out a bunch of other fan productions

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:31

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

FilthyImp posted:

a genuinely good mockumentary

That's the lovely part; it's actually pretty drat well done. I sometimes wonder what the guy could have done with the full-length fan film, if he'd gotten the opportunity to make it (by being less of a screeching douchenozzle).

Here, it's worth a watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:35

Low Desert Punk: Jul 4, 2012; i have absolutely no fucking money

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:46

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave: Jan 9, 2006; Popping up from out of nowhere...

Low Desert Punk posted:

Something about this still image makes me wish I had a local Bob�s Big Boy.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 06:26

HIJK: Nov 25, 2012; in the room where you sleep

FilthyImp posted:

Guy made a genuinely good mockumentary to promote the idea of some kind of Wolf-359 Gettysburg battle that was super impactful on Federation history

The Kickstarter money goes to fund a production studio and not for the feature length fanfilm he promised.

Dude lied to actors saying it was a legit production and continued to use their names as linked to the project after they bailed.

Dude decides to sell branded merchandise to get more money.

Paramount steps in to enforce copyright.

Dude has a screeching meltdown over how the real fans are being silenced and they dont know how to honor the IP, etc etc.

Paramount decides "gently caress it, no more fan films unless you make them for $20 in your garage gently caress this nebulous semipro poo poo"*

*Exceptions are made for productions like Star Trek Continues because they're cool dudes and Paramount doesnt want to kneecap them completely due to this douche.

Guy continues to melt down and act like he is the standard bearer of the house of Roddenberry and His Vision of trek is the One True Path.

gently caress that guy sideways

the Axanar prick runs on pure spiteful pettiness. what a despicable rear end in a top hat.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 07:07

Low Desert Punk: Jul 4, 2012; i have absolutely no fucking money

wake up nerds: the vulcans are the bad guys

# ? Jul 4, 2018 07:36

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Low Desert Punk posted:

wake up nerds: the vulcans are the bad guys

cardassians are the good guys. it is a fact.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 07:42

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Tunicate posted:

You forgot the step where Axanar guy was constantly ratting out a bunch of other fan productions

and apparently approached Amazon and another distributor claiming that he had Paramount's OK to pitch the show to these groups

# ? Jul 4, 2018 08:32

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

Powered Descent posted:

That's the lovely part; it's actually pretty drat well done. I sometimes wonder what the guy could have done with the full-length fan film, if he'd gotten the opportunity to make it (by being less of a screeching douchenozzle).

Here, it's worth a watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA

Eehhhh, it's well produced, but the writing is bad.

"We needed a big tech advantage over the Klingons so we built these more advanced ships that turned the tide of the war"
"Ah ha, but you see, we Klingons were working on an even more powerful ship that would secure victory!"
"Alas, the Klingons were driving on a planet named in a TOS episode as the site of an important battle, so of course that meant we must have been building an even more awesomer ship there (which would turn the tide of war once again!!), which of course could only mean it was ~~*~THE ENTERPRISE!!!~*~~"

It all sounds like a goddamn space RTS game.

Kibayasu posted:

“Fan” is putting it mildly. The guy wanted to be a real producer of official Star Trek so badly he convinced himself that CBS/Paramount was going to buy his idea for a new series.

Also of course he makes his project about Garth of Izar, who Kirk had looked up to in his academy days, puffs him out even more, and then casts himself as the "aw shucks" ultra-brilliant Captain Garth.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 09:03

Sarcastr0: May 29, 2013; WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Eehhhh, it's well produced, but the writing is bad.

"We needed a big tech advantage over the Klingons so we built these more advanced ships that turned the tide of the war"
"Ah ha, but you see, we Klingons were working on an even more powerful ship that would secure victory!"
"Alas, the Klingons were driving on a planet named in a TOS episode as the site of an important battle, so of course that meant we must have been building an even more awesomer ship there (which would turn the tide of war once again!!), which of course could only mean it was ~~*~THE ENTERPRISE!!!~*~~"

It all sounds like a goddamn space RTS game.

Also of course he makes his project about Garth of Izar, who Kirk had looked up to in his academy days, puffs him out even more, and then casts himself as the "aw shucks" ultra-brilliant Captain Garth.

It captured the tone of those History Channel war documentaries that reduce World War II to an RTS perfectly.

Didn't Garth of Izar go megalomaniac nuts and took over his insane asylum? He killed the second green lady we see in Star Trek!

# ? Jul 4, 2018 10:06

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Oh, now this is interesting. Doctor Who audio play producers, Big Finish, apparently have the Star Trek licence now.

https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1014435432875155456

# ? Jul 4, 2018 10:35

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Low Desert Punk posted:

wake up nerds: the vulcans are the bad guys

Ah but consider: Perhaps they do atrocities, but very quietly, and are thus both "good" and "cool," AND - here's the important part - operationally superior.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 12:35

Astroman: Apr 8, 2001

Whoa.

This is big news! For ST fans who don't wander into the Doctor Who thread, Big Finish does high quality, amazing work. They've produced more stories for DW then were on tv, with most of the original living actors returning. Great scripts music, and sfx. They've done the same for other big genre show too, like Blake's 7 and Dark Shadows.

A guy reading audiobooks of a spinoff series isn't an auspicious start it would seem, but BF started the same way with new series DW and eventually got full cast audiios with David Tennant and many other characters from New Who. Also their 1-3 Doctors stories started as one person audiobooks and morphed into full cast stories with 80 year old actors somehow sounding like they were 20, and some recasts of actors who had passed away. They got back Tom Baker who wouldn't come back for anything, and he's now done far more audio stories than he has tv!

Big Finish would be a great way for older TOS actors like Koenig, Nichols, and Takei to do more stories before they die. If they did TNG audios, there's no worry about Data looking too old either. Plus if you want spinoffs based on unused concepts or minor characters, BF is great for that. Want to get Captain Worf or Captain Sulu? They'd be all over that!

# ? Jul 4, 2018 12:37

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Audio drama would also have the TAS effect of "we can do astonishing SFX" - indeed it'd be even stronger.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 12:45

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

FlamingLiberal posted:

and apparently approached Amazon and another distributor claiming that he had Paramount's OK to pitch the show to these groups

Both Amazon and Netflix. Alec Peters claimed that Axanar was an officially licensed product.

Other douchebaggery:

- He used Kickstarter funds to pay off personal credit card bills and restaurant bills for himself, his then-girlfriend (who ran the merchandising) and Robert Meyer Burnett
- He approached an author who was under exclusive contract to Pocket Books to write Axanar books; when Dave Galanter informed Peters that such action would be a material breach of his contract, Peters' response was to suggest writing under a pseudonym
- Despite admitting fault in its settlement with CBS and Paramount, and agreeing to no longer crowdfund further ventures, Peters went to his email list and asked for donations to keep "the studio" going, even while he was actively moving it from Los Angeles to a warehouse in Atlanta

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Eehhhh, it's well produced, but the writing is bad.

"We needed a big tech advantage over the Klingons so we built these more advanced ships that turned the tide of the war"
"Ah ha, but you see, we Klingons were working on an even more powerful ship that would secure victory!"
"Alas, the Klingons were driving on a planet named in a TOS episode as the site of an important battle, so of course that meant we must have been building an even more awesomer ship there (which would turn the tide of war once again!!), which of course could only mean it was ~~*~THE ENTERPRISE!!!~*~~"

Even "well-produced" is stretching it. Richard Hatch, in particular, is loving awful in that whole thing, yet he's front and center because Peters was so goddamn giddy about getting Chang's uniform in the prop auction from ten years ago.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 14:37

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

The_Doctor posted:

Oh, now this is interesting. Doctor Who audio play producers, Big Finish, apparently have the Star Trek licence now.

https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1014435432875155456

Is this a novel series about the Voltron ship?

# ? Jul 4, 2018 14:43

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

I'm like 99% done with this, and it's going to be made into a vinyl sticker. Send an e-mail to sendthemtopick@gmail.com if you want one, so I know how many to order :toot:

# ? Jul 4, 2018 16:37

Hipster_Doofus: Dec 20, 2003; Lovin' every minute of it.

All right be honest. Who would get a tat of that?

# ? Jul 4, 2018 17:29

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Is a vinyl sticker the kind you can put on a car?

I want to put drinking kanar with damar and gkar on a car

# ? Jul 4, 2018 18:00

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

A.I. Borgland Corp posted:

Is a vinyl sticker the kind you can put on a car?

I want to put drinking kanar with damar and gkar on a car

It can indeed go on a car! They're the more durable ones.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 18:05

Brawnfire: Jul 13, 2004; 🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I want a van with that airbrushed on the hood. The side would be a mural of DS9, the wormhole, and the defiant. The wormhole disappears when the door is open. The back is morn at the bar

# ? Jul 4, 2018 18:09

Professor Beetus: Apr 12, 2007; They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Brawnfire posted:

I want a van with that airbrushed on the hood. The side would be a mural of DS9, the wormhole, and the defiant. The wormhole disappears when the door is open. The back is morn at the bar

Given the correlation between Trek fans and pedos, maybe not the best idea.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 18:18

Brawnfire: Jul 13, 2004; 🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

poo poo, I didn't even get to use my Odo-as-trucknutz idea

# ? Jul 4, 2018 18:30

Astroman: Apr 8, 2001

Timby posted:

Even "well-produced" is stretching it. Richard Hatch, in particular, is loving awful in that whole thing, yet he's front and center because Peters was so goddamn giddy about getting Chang's uniform in the prop auction from ten years ago.

Which is even worse, because as we saw with :bsg:

, Hatch could act.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 19:54

Wungus: Mar 5, 2004

Pick posted:

It can indeed go on a car! They're the more durable ones.

This is going on my car gently caress gently caress gently caress

# ? Jul 4, 2018 20:27

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

A.I. Borgland Corp posted:

Is a vinyl sticker the kind you can put on a car?

I want to put drinking kanar with damar and gkar on a car

Then you could go to a bar with a sticker on your car that says drinking kanar with damar and gkar.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 20:39

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."