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Wheeee posted:Old cars were pretty much all pieces of poo poo compared to modern cars and driving one is probably the fastest way to cure most people of nostalgia In my experience it's quite the opposite. I'd argue that while modern cars have better mpg, safety and ease of use/convenience, old ones are more pleasant to actually drive in terms of engagement, comfort and visibility.
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I don't miss the steering, handling or brakes on the 68 Impala I learned to drive in, the mint green bench seats were comfy though.
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Jul 4, 2018 14:41
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Thats two subjective things that are diametrically opposed and only one demonstrateably true thing.
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Jul 4, 2018 14:43
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I don’t think I’d want to drive anything pre-1980s daily. 80s cars are at least sort of modern and generally have fuel injection.
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Jul 4, 2018 18:44
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Depends on the ~soul~ of the car. I've dailied a 74 Hornet, a 91 Acty kei van, 2013 Golf R, 85 diesel Rugger, 91 Tercel, 82 Tercel, 91 J70 diesel Land Cruiser, an 85 diesel Hilux Surf and now a 91 diesel J70 Prado. Soon hopefully an AZ-1 unless it's garbage to live with  All of them are rad as heck in their own way and run from fuel injection to diesel common rail to carburation. I guess I've never owned a V8 tho so
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Jul 4, 2018 19:14
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Dailying the Lincoln is rad apart from the fuel economy and the really small mirrors, especially with the current state of our roads. People tend to be more careful around something that stands out. A ton of suspension and a ton of sidewall is awesome and we have to go back to it.
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Jul 4, 2018 19:31
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Apropos of nothing, it still amazes me how ahead of its time the Aztec was. 
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Jul 4, 2018 21:50
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Apropos of nothing, it still amazes me how ahead of its time the Aztec was. Has anyone done a retrospective look at it? It'd make for an interesting read.
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Jul 4, 2018 22:06
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McTinkerson posted:I'm scheduled for a G70 manual rwd test drive just for shits and giggles next week. $45k CDN MSRP sounds half decent. Update on this; just got a call from Genesis Canada. There are no manual RWD G70's in Canada yet. ETA is apparently Q3 of this year. As soon as the local dealer gets one, I will get to drive it for 24 hours.
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Jul 4, 2018 22:23
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Has anyone done a retrospective look at it? It'd make for an interesting read. Doug DeMuro did a video on it a while back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33AP0JnXSOA
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Jul 4, 2018 22:46
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Anyone other than Doug Demuro?
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Jul 4, 2018 22:50
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I wish Demuro would go away. And take Lavar Ball with him.
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Jul 4, 2018 23:04
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Grakkus posted:In my experience it's quite the opposite. Of all the cars I own or have ever owned, my 944 is my favorite to drive. It's so raw and communicative. I'd daily it if the A/C and the cruise worked. In what may come as a complete surprise, my second favorite car to drive is my piece of poo poo Ranger. It has zero amenities - no cruise, A/C, power anything. But I really love how raw it is and I genuinely like to drive it. It's slow and the shifter has feet-long throws and I just loving love it. I crank the windows down and take the long way home, through the country, when I have it. Meanwhile my nearly-new Challenger sits in the garage. I'll drive it once or twice a week.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:00
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Goober Peas posted:I wish Demuro would go away. And take Lavar Ball with him. Lol, Lavar's dumbass is going to get his son traded. They've already leaked that Lonzo has a knee injury to prevent a trade, but it's going to happen anyway.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:20
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:You can both enjoy cars and support restrictions on cars which would drastically improve cities and the safety of the pedestrians / bicyclists therein. Yeah, I mean, sometimes I drive, and sometimes I'm a pedestrian. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing the dipshit who was befouling the left lane at 5 under the limit suddenly decide he needs to go 10 or 15 over in a residential or high-density area. Those people can gently caress straight off. Speed all you like in areas where there are no pedestrians, I don't really care as long as you aren't driving like a tool, but in dense urban areas or residential neighbourhoods, drive cautiously and at a prudent speed. That's not incompatible with liking cars by any means.
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Jul 5, 2018 13:47
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Aye there's a complete arsehole who drives up and down my street at speed. It's not a massively long road so it's not like you drive for an hour to get out either end so I'm not sure why they feel the need to boot it up and down the street. I'm gonna roll an old bike out into the road in front of them some day.
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Jul 5, 2018 14:10
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Few things are as dryly amusing as catching up to the person who aggressively sped passed you at the next red light.
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Jul 5, 2018 14:47
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Love too race to stop lights
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Jul 5, 2018 14:58
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Few things are as dryly amusing as catching up to the person who aggressively sped passed you at the next red light. It's even better when you're cycling. I usually make a point of sitting in front of them.
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Jul 5, 2018 15:24
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Olympic Mathlete posted:It's even better when you're cycling. I usually make a point of sitting in front of them. I don't do that because I don't trust that they won't run me over.
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Jul 5, 2018 15:47
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Even on a road with controlled intersections you will, on average, get where you're going faster by speeding to get through intersections before they go red.
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Jul 5, 2018 17:28
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McTinkerson posted:Update on this; just got a call from Genesis Canada. There are no manual RWD G70's in Canada yet. ETA is apparently Q3 of this year. As soon as the local dealer gets one, I will get to drive it for 24 hours. No dealers in Manitoba at all. I'd love to drive one and I'd consider trading in my '15 Genesis but I don't think I can?
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Jul 5, 2018 17:39
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Wheeee posted:Even on a road with controlled intersections you will, on average, get where you're going faster by speeding to get through intersections before they go red. I always watch the crosswalk signals and speed up as necessary. My wife is oblivious and I hate riding passenger with her...she's not a light watcher no matter how much I try to teach.
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Jul 5, 2018 18:12
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Wheeee posted:Even on a road with controlled intersections you will, on average, get where you're going faster by speeding to get through intersections before they go red. I hate this mindset. If you are talking about a typical 10 to 20 minute drive around town you shaved off a few minutes maybe, at the expense of putting you and the people around you in greater danger. The risk/reward ratio of excessive speed to squeeze through a light is not there.
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Jul 5, 2018 18:56
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I hate this mindset. If you are talking about a typical 10 to 20 minute drive around town you shaved off a few minutes maybe, at the expense of putting you and the people around you in greater danger. The risk/reward ratio of excessive speed to squeeze through a light is not there. If you're flooring it before every intersection and doing 10+ mph over the limit to beat a light...then yes you are correct, but adjusting your speed to go a little bit faster to just avoid a red light isn't really causing anyone any more danger.
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Jul 5, 2018 19:05
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Intersections with red light cameras here recently went to "speed on green" where they act like speed cameras during green lights so even if it was a good idea, it's now a bad idea. You also get people slamming on their brakes before green lights now, too. All in the name of
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Jul 5, 2018 19:13
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The main reason to go fast is because slow is boring as gently caress
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Jul 5, 2018 19:31
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That is true. Auron posted:If you're flooring it before every intersection and doing 10+ mph over the limit to beat a light...then yes you are correct, but adjusting your speed to go a little bit faster to just avoid a red light isn't really causing anyone any more danger. Maybe. I've finally come to the conclusion that in your typical American city, speeding doesn't really get to your destination faster. Not by a significant enough margin to make it worth it.
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Jul 5, 2018 19:33
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I drive the speed that I drive at (which may be over the speed limit in areas were pedestrians are not around) because that's the speed that keeps me engaged and focused as a driver and therefore the safest. That sort of thing has been proven time and time again that people gravitate towards the speed that they are most comfortable driving at and that same speed makes them safer. Forcing yourself to drive slower than your are comfortable decreases overall safety. Again, that doesn't apply when there are other concerns like pedestrians. In all honesty, your focus on watching for pedestrians should automatically force you to drive within the limits for those zones.
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bull3964 posted:I drive the speed that I drive at (which may be over the speed limit in areas were pedestrians are not around) because that's the speed that keeps me engaged and focused as a driver and therefore the safest. I think most of the studies I've come across have said that traveling the same speed as traffic around you is more important than anything else. Speed differentials are dangerous.
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Road design has a huge role in how fast the perceived "normal" speed is, and the majority of roads in US cities are designed to get as many cars through as fast as possible regardless of what the speed limit posted is.
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Jul 5, 2018 19:51
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I think most of the studies I've come across have said that traveling the same speed as traffic around you is more important than anything else. Speed differentials are dangerous. That is also a factor as well. However, again, the speed that you are comfortable driving at should be fluid based on prevailing conditions, one of them being traffic around you. The issue comes when you have a mass of people, many of which are severely under-driving, encountering anything out of the ordinary. They aren't engaged, they are checked out, and therefore aren't prepared to react. If you keep proper lane passing discipline, speed differentials are far less of an issue anyways.
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I'm a lot more dangerous on the road when I'm bored and disengaged with the process than I am when I'm driving as I please, which is generally with the flow of traffic or slightly faster depending on conditions. Someone paying enough attention to be watching crosswalk lights and for police ahead of them is safer than someone robotically following the law without regard to actual conditions. And if you aren't paying attention to light cycles and the flow of traffic and pedestrians in city driving so as to allow you to get through as efficiently as possible you actually are potentially wasting a lot of time. I commuted in heavy traffic for roughly an hour each way before I gave up and started taking transit, and paying attention and trying to save time often actually does.
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Wheeee posted:I'm a lot more dangerous on the road when I'm bored and disengaged with the process than I am when I'm driving as I please, which is generally with the flow of traffic or slightly faster depending on conditions. I mostly agree. And to be more clear, I'm not saying everyone needs to follow the exact posted speed limit or it's dangerous. I'm talking about people who just routinely drive faster (10+ mph) than everyone else, everywhere they go because they think they're "beating traffic". Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Jul 5, 2018 20:03
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Why does Fisker bother to camo the parts of the car that haven’t changed in ten years? Spotted this today in Oceanside. 
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Jul 6, 2018 02:01
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You took a picture of their car...so it must have worked
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Jul 6, 2018 02:17
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I thought they died like ten years ago.
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https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1...%26autosize%3D1
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I make lights that no one else makes all the time by simply briskly accelerating up to the speed limit when leaving the previous light.
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fknlo posted:I make lights that no one else makes all the time by simply briskly accelerating up to the speed limit when leaving the previous light. Do you drive a v6 minivan?
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