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Basically think if a girl on screen talking to her vagina is a thing you're on board for when thinking about watching Big Mouth:
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Jul 4, 2018 19:31
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Fried Watermelon posted:The one on netflix about middle school kids going through puberty is pretty bad I only managed to get through a couple of episodes of Big Mouth. It could have actually been a pretty funny series, since middle school is an awkward time and there haven't been many shows about kids that age. But it basically all seemed to be BONERS! PERIODS! BONERS! It just seemed that they hadn't bothered to write proper characters or storylines, just a compilation of gross stuff about growing up. The animation style doesn't help. It's super ugly to watch.
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Jul 4, 2018 19:36
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I liked Big Mouth, but I did like a lot of the actors going into it, so that might have biased me. American Dad had a good transformation. Season 1 was all Bush and Patriot Act jokes. Then they pivoted to kooky CIA invention plots which got pretty entertaining - they also started abusing the least interesting character, Klaus, which made him funnier. Then they started over-building characters that would get a total of 1-2 minutes screen time - do full fleshed out stories for essentially extras. I feel like maybe that's more common now, but I thought it was really clever when they started doing that. I also think Francine is the best cartoon sitcom mom.
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Jul 4, 2018 19:37
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francine is the best cartoon sitcom mom because she's a weirdo and as flawed as the rest of the characters instead of being the voice of reason/debbie downer/the smart one with maybe a few tiny one-shot flaws that don't mean anything (marge's gambling)
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Jul 4, 2018 19:55
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Bust Rodd posted:The Cleveland show is good fight me. It's one of my guiltiest cartoon pleasures. Despite coming from different partners, the family actually seems to ultimately love and care about each other which is in huge contrast to family guy which is a mean-spirited show. I don't know if I'd call it "good" though. I wish it had had another couple seasons. Not many though. They almost always had one laugh out loud joke per episode to their credit.
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Jul 4, 2018 20:35
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Captain Lavender posted:I liked Big Mouth, but I did like a lot of the actors going into it, so that might have biased me. The one where they milk Roger for their super special church mayonnaise or the one with Bad Larry is probably my favourite.
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Jul 4, 2018 20:50
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My biggest problem with American Dad is that probably 80% of the episodes or more are based on either: Roger coming up with a persona to do some scheme, Roger doing that to screw over the family, Steve being a thick headed jerk (possibly from influence of Roger) that he later has to redeem himself for, or some combination of the three. It's so formulaic that for me it overrides the shows other qualities. I was bored and watched all of Big Mouth. It's... 1/2 a decent surreal and subversive Wonder Years, 1/2 overly vulgar and tryhard edgy. The result is something that's... okay at times, awful at others. The first episode is particularly rough. The whole thing would be better if the hormone monsters were 1. not so prevalent 2. not so vulgar and 3. a manifestation of each kid's personality and hormones rather than just being a blanket interpretation of all male/female hormones.
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Jul 4, 2018 21:07
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And if they just got rid of Coach Steve all together. I've watched the entirety of Big Mouth, and it certain has funny parts, but it really doesn't hold up on a rewatch.
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Jul 4, 2018 21:40
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American Dad has its ups and downs but when it's good it's incredible. The christmas episodes, the jeff in space episode, "the one that got away", the hot tub episode.. they really go all out with crazy experimental stuff now and then. And forget Seth Macfarlane, Scott Grimes has the golden singing voice. Re: Simpsons, My "gently caress this" episode was the one where the lisa's cat died and they got a series of replacement cats that also died in front of her. They end the episode with lisa getting a cat that looks exactly like the original one and gives it the same name, so everything's back to normal in the end. They even make a joke with Skinner saying "well that's convenient" and lisa says "it sure is armand tamzarian". It stuck me as pointlessly cruel - there was a shot with a cat dead in the fish tank that was exceptionally creepy. And this wasn't even the main plot of the episode, which was Bart and Homer doing battle bots or something. Maybe I'm just overly fond of cats but it crossed a line in a really shallow and cheap manner. There was a weird line in a different episode, the one where marge becomes a realtor which was otherwise decent if I remember - Where marge feels guilty about selling ned the murder house and goes, "if anything goes wrong just call me.. or you can beat me!" The idea that marge feels so guilty that she's asking to be beat up is creepy isn't it? Is it just me?
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Jul 5, 2018 03:48
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I thought she said "beep me" ... as in pagers. It's been a long time since I've seen it though.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:31
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dracky posted:American Dad has its ups and downs but when it's good it's incredible. The christmas episodes, the jeff in space episode, "the one that got away", the hot tub episode.. they really go all out with crazy experimental stuff now and then. And forget Seth Macfarlane, Scott Grimes has the golden singing voice. That episode bothered me as well. It didn't seem funny or interesting as a plot, just cruel like you said.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:33
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dracky posted:There was a weird line in a different episode, the one where marge becomes a realtor which was otherwise decent if I remember - Where marge feels guilty about selling ned the murder house and goes, "if anything goes wrong just call me.. or you can beat me!" The idea that marge feels so guilty that she's asking to be beat up is creepy isn't it? Is it just me? Yeah the line is "beep", success in 1997 meant having a pager.
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Jul 5, 2018 05:55
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dracky posted:dead cats episode Yet if this was an American Dad plot with Steve losing more and more cat in zany ways it'd probably be great.
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Jul 5, 2018 07:47
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There was that episode where Steve found that cat...
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Jul 5, 2018 09:14
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Also the evil clone of Steve juggling the decapitated heads of cats and taking bites out of them
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Jul 5, 2018 10:27
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American Dad having a character whose entire shtick is that they constantly reinvent themselves and can thus be anything the plot needs them to be and serve as a vehicle for the other characters to get sucked into crazy situations was a shrewd move. That and having Stan work at the CIA, which someone mentioned earlier is another vehicle for plausibly (within the show's universe) getting the characters involved in stuff that would otherwise seem improbable at best. You rarely run into those nagging questions where you're like "How does Homer possibly have the time/resources for this poo poo, shouldn't he have lost his job by now?" Also here's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoeBAHk8Qm4
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Jul 5, 2018 11:08
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dracky posted:Re: Simpsons, My "gently caress this" episode was the one where the lisa's cat died and they got a series of replacement cats that also died in front of her. They end the episode with lisa getting a cat that looks exactly like the original one and gives it the same name, so everything's back to normal in the end. They even make a joke with Skinner saying "well that's convenient" and lisa says "it sure is armand tamzarian". It stuck me as pointlessly cruel - there was a shot with a cat dead in the fish tank that was exceptionally creepy. And this wasn't even the main plot of the episode, which was Bart and Homer doing battle bots or something. Maybe I'm just overly fond of cats but it crossed a line in a really shallow and cheap manner. I mean the concept and resolution of that plot isn't a terrible idea on paper, especially as an overarching jab at TV standards of everything returning to the status quo, but execution is everything, and they were failing at that by then.
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Jul 5, 2018 12:42
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Iron Crowned posted:I mean the concept and resolution of that plot isn't a terrible idea on paper, especially as an overarching jab at TV standards of everything returning to the status quo, but execution is everything, and they were failing at that by then. They'd done that gag many time by that point and even acknowledged it was old by having Principal Tamzarian walk past.
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Jul 5, 2018 14:00
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I saw two episodes about 10 years ago and have up on post season 8 since. I remember Bart goes to fat camp, and Frank Grimes Jr looking for revenge
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Jul 5, 2018 14:12
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Angelwolf posted:I saw two episodes about 10 years ago and have up on post season 8 since. "He happened to like hookers, okay?" was the low point for a long time.
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Jul 5, 2018 23:25
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That also reminds me of the time that Bart got into Juzz. Bart some how is an amazing drummer, he starts drumming at a jazz club, lisa gets frustrated because understandably nobody gave a poo poo about jazz when it was her. So she starts looking after sick animals. by the end of the episode she's adopted basically every animal within a 20 mile radius including a tiger which attacks Bart, fucks up his arm and stops him being able to drum any more. I don't remember what happens to the animals after that. But the lisa story for that one totally merged with the "Lisa keeps accidentally killing her pet cats" one in my head.
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Jul 6, 2018 00:00
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Well, gosh, it just HAS to be this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTxoj_ErIc
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Jul 6, 2018 00:17
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That's far too animated and vivacious to be New Simpsons.
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Jul 6, 2018 01:27
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Scudworth posted:Yeah the line is "beep", success in 1997 meant having a pager. Oh dang I guess I heard it wrong, that would make more sense. Aww I've been making an idiot out of myself 
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Jul 6, 2018 01:33
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sweet geek swag posted:"He happened to like hookers, okay?" was the low point for a long time. Jesus Christ. That’s terrible.
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Jul 6, 2018 01:36
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ihatechesspieces posted:Well, gosh, it just HAS to be this And here I thought I was the only one with Simpsons Cartoon Studio as a kid.
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Jul 6, 2018 01:46
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Communist Walrus posted:American Dad having a character whose entire shtick is that they constantly reinvent themselves and can thus be anything the plot needs them to be and serve as a vehicle for the other characters to get sucked into crazy situations was a shrewd move. They definitely use Roger as a crutch though, to the point where it kind of ruins the show for me. I said it before but probably somewhere around 80% of all American Dad episodes are Roger having a new scheme and often it's to screw over the family.
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Jul 6, 2018 02:31
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They should drop the talking fish entirely.
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Jul 6, 2018 02:32
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i love klaus, but there should never be an episode built entirely around him
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Jul 6, 2018 03:30
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More Barry Gary Oldman, please.
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Jul 6, 2018 11:42
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lowest point was probably when skinner and smithers secretly dated for a while and when krabapple found out she got revenge by banging burns the "lisa joins PETA and agrees to murder the family pets" b-plot was godawful too
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Jul 6, 2018 15:56
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Now I'm pretty sure you're bullshitting but statistically speaking those episodes probably did happen at some point
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Jul 6, 2018 16:09
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:They should drop the talking fish entirely. wrong YeahTubaMike posted:i love klaus, but there should never be an episode built entirely around him and wrong
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Jul 6, 2018 17:28
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Phlegmish posted:Now I'm pretty sure you're bullshitting but statistically speaking those episodes probably did happen at some point gotta be honest it's not as good as my earlier pitch Farmer Crack-rear end posted:worst part was probably when otto was pimping out ms hoover from the school bus and lijsa had a huge moral crisis about whether she should report him for promoting prostitution in a loving school bus or look the other way so that two struggling adults could get by in our hosed-up society Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the b-plot where homer started a knockoff kwik-e-mart titled "pastel pantry" and wound up accidentally committing securities fraud was pretty good though
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Jul 6, 2018 19:27
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:They should drop the talking fish entirely. nope
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Jul 6, 2018 19:56
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Why is the Chef Returns episode any different than their average quality? The jokes would be eye-rollers about Christianity, but Scientology is legitimately dangerous and needed to be publicly insulted. Goons are getting weirdly religious in their 30s because they're embarrassed for posting internet atheism as a kid
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Jul 12, 2018 08:46
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woukld you rather watch a new episode of the simpsons or a new episode of family guy
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Jul 12, 2018 08:47
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Blast of Confetti posted:woukld you rather watch a new episode of the simpsons or a new episode of family guy no
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Jul 12, 2018 08:52
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Analytic Engine posted:Why is the Chef Returns episode any different than their average quality? The jokes would be eye-rollers about Christianity, but Scientology is legitimately dangerous and needed to be publicly insulted. Goons are getting weirdly religious in their 30s because they're embarrassed for posting internet atheism as a kid they made edgy jokes about pedophilia
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