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seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Panfilo posted:

I would pay to have a DLC that leads right up to the Clan invasion as you find progressively better loot.

Might be fun to go blow up the Grey Death Legion too.

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

seaborgium posted:

Might be fun to go blow up the Grey Death Legion too.

"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Unormal posted:

Imagine how loving good the game would be with dynamic campaigns and all kinds of dropships to buy/find and lostech to dig up and poo poo. :swoon:

Or the structure of the Mechwarrior 4: Mercs campaign? Hell yeah. I loved the little missions like loving up a convoy real fast for some extra loot.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Mount and Blade, but with mechs.

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Synthbuttrange posted:

Mount and Blade, but with mechs.

This is absolutely what I want

Unormal
Nov 16, 2004

Mod sass? This evening?! But the cakes aren't ready! THE CAKES!
Fun Shoe
I should just quit all my other work and make BATTLETECH procgen campaign mods.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Unormal posted:

I should just quit all my other work and make BATTLETECH procgen campaign mods.

not gonna tell you not to do this

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Unormal posted:

I should just quit all my other work and make BATTLETECH procgen campaign mods.

Just add battlemechs to Caves of Qud

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


armchairyoda posted:

Almost. But she comes back with a “know your place” style line and you don’t get any “enjoy this fine space-guillotine” chat options after.

Yeah the main character turned into a bootlicker real quick

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

Taintrunner posted:

Or the structure of the Mechwarrior 4: Mercs campaign? Hell yeah. I loved the little missions like loving up a convoy real fast for some extra loot.

One of my favorite missions in MW4 is super early in the game where after you've ambushed two convoys one of them ambushes you instead and the mission goes one of two ways.

1. Run like hell
2. Defeat your would be ambushers, who brought several PPC Carriers, Catapults, and a Mauler against your rinky-dink lance of Owens, Hellhounds, and Chimeras.

Option 2 is obviously the way to go because LRMs are hilariously broken. MWO is the only game in the Battletech series I've played where LRMs are mediocre.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Synthbuttrange posted:

Mount and Blade, but with mechs.

mount and blade but with X is a winning formula

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 13 days!

And Tyler Too! posted:

One of my favorite missions in MW4 is super early in the game where after you've ambushed two convoys one of them ambushes you instead and the mission goes one of two ways.

1. Run like hell
2. Defeat your would be ambushers, who brought several PPC Carriers, Catapults, and a Mauler against your rinky-dink lance of Owens, Hellhounds, and Chimeras.

Option 2 is obviously the way to go because LRMs are hilariously broken. MWO is the only game in the Battletech series I've played where LRMs are mediocre.
I played a stimulator attraction at Dave and Busters that had simulated cockpits but other than that it was just Mechwarrior 4 so I picked a Mauler and just hung back and sniped mechs until I ran out of ammo and ended the battle like 16-0. I'm pretty sure that was the game where LRMs would home in on the target if you fired the second the cross hairs turned red, vs other games where it took several seconds.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

Panfilo posted:

I played a stimulator attraction at Dave and Busters that had simulated cockpits but other than that it was just Mechwarrior 4 so I picked a Mauler and just hung back and sniped mechs until I ran out of ammo and ended the battle like 16-0. I'm pretty sure that was the game where LRMs would home in on the target if you fired the second the cross hairs turned red, vs other games where it took several seconds.

Nah, LRMs have a lock time in MW4 as well. Streak SRMs on the other hand behave the way you said.

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Pornographic Memory posted:

mount and blade but with X is a winning formula

especially where X equals graphics

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Just reinstalled the game after putting it on hiatus a week after it came out, we get Unseen mechs yet? Any mods worth downloading yet?

Back Hack fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Jul 8, 2018

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer

Synthbuttrange posted:

Mount and Blade, but with mechs.

Bannertech

Narsham
Jun 5, 2008

The Chad Jihad posted:

Yeah the main character turned into a bootlicker real quick

She does pay stupidly well for missions and hold the mech company's debt. If we'd had to play through the three year gap I'm guessing we'd all be happier humoring the nice lady until she makes us rich or gets herself messily killed. (Yes, I know it's game over in the latter case, but that's hardly an in-game matter.)

For that matter, there's nothing beyond battle difficulty stopping you from just going full merc and ignoring the next campaign mission for 20-30 years.

Morton Haynice
Sep 9, 2008

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Multiplayer is güd! Here's my First Matches Trip Report.

Before I ever set foot in the lobby, I played around in the Mechlab trying to build my ideal Lance for every category. It was weird getting used to CBills (not tonnage) being the limiting factor, and I struggled to find the right combination of Mech prices. Eventually I settled on a Tanker/Tanker/Sniper/LRM Boat combo of 2x Thunderbolt (AC/20, SRM6), a Blackjack (2x AC/5s), and a Centurion (2x LRM-15s, LRM-10) for the 25mil Class. It performed surprisingly well!

First Match: Canyon. Opponent was running 2x Stalkers and 2x Locusts, using the Locusts as spotters and bodyguards while the Stalkers rained LRMs. He claimed that central plateau before I even saw him, and got to take a zillion potshots before I scrambled my Thunderbolts into range. He FF'd one into oblivion right as she was closing, but left one of the Stalkers exposed at the edge of the plateau. I was able to shave off his evasion with my Blackjack/Cent, and use the Fury from their kill to leg it down. So I jump my Bolt up to start meleeing, he jumps his other Stalker off, and has his Locusts DFA me. Luckily I've got Ozone in the Bolt, so Bulwark saves him from most of the damage. Between a few more AC/20 hits, supported by my Blackjack (now on the opposite hill) and my Cent, I manage to take out the limping Stalker and one Locust. After that, it was just mop up.



Second Match: Crater. Opponent running a Shadowhawk, Firestarter, and 2x LRM Jaegermechs. Similar scramble to close distance, but he was better about maneuvering his spotters to keep them alive (and me focused on them). However, he kept his Jaegers so far back I was able to stay out of their ideal range. The match was me chasing his Hawk and Firestarter around while we both dealt with the ridiculous heat. I lost a Bolt again and took massive damage on all my other units, but finally managed to nail both spotters within a round of each other. (Thanks, Breaching Shot!)



"Ok, now time to deal with the real threat," I think. Then his Big Bad Jaegermechs walk into view...



He was a pretty good sport about it, and we both learned an important lesson about playing with explosives on the Moon.



Well, that's my story. Try Multiplayer guys!

Morton Haynice fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jul 8, 2018

Beepity Boop
Nov 21, 2012

yay

Did his LRMs all blow off from overheat? :supaburn:

Morton Haynice
Sep 9, 2008

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Yup. I only thought it had stopped raining missiles because the spotters were down, hahaha.
There were two moments where I was like "huh. what was that explosion?" then later voila: shambling torsobots.

Morton Haynice fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jul 8, 2018

rocketrobot
Jul 11, 2003

Morton Haynice posted:

Yup. I only thought it had stopped raining missiles because the spotters were down, hahaha.
There were two moments where I was like "huh. what was that explosion?" then later voila: shambling torsobots.

That's amazing. It's also why I don't use bots with arm-mounted BFGs. I'm looking at you, Enforcer.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
Oh sweet mercy I got a full set of Shadow Hawk salvage plus the bonus Centurion from the Argo mission. 2 cavalry Shadow Hawks, 1 long-range Vindicator, and a brawler Centurion. Goodbye light mechs!

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 13 days!

rocketrobot posted:

That's amazing. It's also why I don't use bots with arm-mounted BFGs. I'm looking at you, Enforcer.

I don't think the game applies the tabletop advantage of arm mounted weapons, which was to give you the option of a wider field of fire (since the mech could torso twist then extend its outer arm sideways). There were also mechs that could flip their arms completely backward allowing them to fire their arm mounted weapons directly behind them. Both of these types of tactical advantages made up for the vulnerability of having a weapon in the arms.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
You do get a small chance to hit bonus from arm-mounted weapons iirc

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Arm mounted weapons are more accurate in this game (+5%).

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Strobe posted:

Arm mounted weapons are more accurate in this game (+5%).

It's +1 hit so it's actually ~3%. The hit chance readout lies rounds to the nearest 5%.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

Avatar brought to you by the TG Sanity fund
You do have a wider cone of fire with arm weapons, too. At least it seems to get narrower if you've lost both arms.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

i started playing mw4m again :cripes:

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Captain Foo posted:

i started playing mw4m again :cripes:

It's still good, though barely functional on Win 10. I ended up having my main mech be a mekpak Behemoth IIc (I think) with a rail gun and three ER Large Lasers. Medium mechs just disappear. :v:

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

RBA Starblade posted:

It's still good, though barely functional on Win 10.
You said this before, but all I did was download the Mektek version of the game, extract it, set my options and it just works. Didn't even have to mess with compatibility or anything.

E: looking back at my own posts it looks like there was a specific file I had to delete.

Mordja fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jul 9, 2018

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Mordja posted:

You said this before, but all I did was download the Mektek version of the game, extract it, set my options and it just works. Didn't even have to mess with compatibility or anything.

E: looking back at my own posts it looks like there was a specific file I had to delete.

Did it not crash on you every time the resolution changed? I didn't really mind since it auto-recovered and it was good enough for me but I wonder if there was a setting I should have hit. I still have MW4 and Black Knight here too, I wonder how well they'll work.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jul 9, 2018

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Mordja posted:

You said this before, but all I did was download the Mektek version of the game, extract it, set my options and it just works. Didn't even have to mess with compatibility or anything.

E: looking back at my own posts it looks like there was a specific file I had to delete.

Are you running it with a joystick or without? The last time I tried the joystick caused it to crash, but I want to relive my early 2000s playing mw4 with a stick. Maybe I need to buy a new joystick?

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
No joystick, and I only ever set the resolution through the launcher, haven't tried it ingame. The file I deleted was imagehlp.dll.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

no joystick, amd gpu, basically worked out of the box. Not sure yet if the Steiner helicopter mission is still a death crash, though.

the panacea
May 10, 2008

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Today in modders will never seize to amaze me - the bad edition

Equal Start by RomeoRomantique

RomeoRomantique posted:

this is just the 4 starting pilots edited so that glitch and Behamoth are on equal terms with the males yet another glaring dig at us males by harebrained morons! why are the women seemingly more experianced then the men? i found that to be slightly sexist and derogertory.

so i decided to level the playing field! while i love behamoth's avatar, glitch isnt so much of an appeal......... plus i am bias to Behamoth as she looks like my wife in real life lol however they lost there skills and i set there abilities to 2 level 3's, and 2 level 4's which both dekkar and medusa had and they no longer have multi-shot and the tank skill but they are still far from useless and in my opinion more flexible character now having that grey area where you the commander can decide one there usefulness as merc's i mean who wouldn't want to say make Glitch a Recon/Scouter or Behamoth the Sniper my wife demanded she be XD and yes my wife does play FPS and when she does god she is a nightmare! as a non fps player hearing how she was taken out of her sniper nest is funny at first but after 5 mins AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! lol

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
Like, even if you want to get hung up on the fact that the only pilots with starting skills are female, why is that the solution? Why not edit Dekker and Medusa so one has Evasive and the other has Sensor Lock. Then at least you have one pilot with each skill, so you can check them all out. You can even lie and pretend it's not about your hangups about women.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

the panacea posted:

Today in modders will never seize to amaze me - the bad edition

Equal Start by RomeoRomantique

But Behemoth's already my sniper

peer
Jan 17, 2004

this is not what I wanted
"yet another glaring dig at us males" or "slightly sexist and derogertory" would both be good thread titles

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Q_res posted:

Like, even if you want to get hung up on the fact that the only pilots with starting skills are female, why is that the solution? Why not edit Dekker and Medusa so one has Evasive and the other has Sensor Lock. Then at least you have one pilot with each skill, so you can check them all out. You can even lie and pretend it's not about your hangups about women.

The kind of person who makes that sort of 'improvement' is very much about dragging others down to their level, not any sort of self-improvement.

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Paingod556
Nov 8, 2011

Not a problem, sir

peer posted:

"yet another glaring dig at us males" or "slightly sexist and derogertory" would both be good thread titles

I mean, he raises a fair point. I certainly don't want to get de-Roger'd.


In better mod news, discovered this mod while resetting up LongWarrior (sandbox + random start + more expenses and harder salvage) which sounds pretty good. Yet to run one of these yet due to some mods bugging out, but the whole 'take a contract for X months for Y money' matches better with canon BT, and seems completely functional.
https://www.nexusmods.com/battletech/mods/254

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