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Hello Ketene
Dec 30, 2011
My boyfriend of 19 years... won't marry me

quote:

It's been years. We've been together since Summer 1999. I was 16 and he was 48 at the time. We basically fell in love, he asked me to move in with him, etc. As life went on, we went through lots of ups and downs through the years (bankruptcy, foreclosure, eviction, opening a business, going out of business, working together, few affairs on his end)... and here we are... still together... He did do things that a normal girl would leave him for, but I chose to stay.... I guess I was in love and I still am.

Let's get to the point. He's now 67 years old and I'm 35. I am at the point in my life that either I have to move forward with him or move on. I don't mind marrying him, but he acts like marriage is out of the picture while at the same time he tells me that he wants me to be with him. Sometimes he tells people that I'm his wife, but sometimes I'm his girlfriend and at some point in the past (when he had a hook up behind my pack), he was referring to me as his room-mate....

Long story short, it's been extremely complicated.... Him & I been together for 19 years... (we've been living together, under the same roof for 19 years). I have nothing of my own. Everything is under his name.. the house that we live in (it’s paid off and is the house that I helped find and convinced him to buy, I also did a lot of construction work on it myself, etc.), two vehicles, pets and everything else. I don't know what to do.

I personally don't mind if he marries me, but he just won't. And that makes me wonder if it's time to just move on (even though I do have feelings for him), but then I'd be walking away from everything that I worked on for the past 19 years. I also had to over come few of his affairs (those that he hooked up with while I was with him... and even hooking up with few of his ex-girlfriends, including mother of his kid who's almost my age... all behind my back).

Anyways, I am lost, confused and would like to get some of your opinions. Should I stay and wait and hope that he'll marry me eventually. Should I move on and simply leave everything behind. Or should I just separate for little while. Also, do I have any rights to anything? I've been with him for 19 years (we live and always lived, in California). I did many things with him and for him, and to this day I do everything that a wife would + more... I cook, clean, do laundry, take care of our pets (lots of them), take care of our garden (fruit trees on his paid-off property)... serve him meals even take him to his doctors appointments (he recently had his eye surgery, 17 years ago he had knee surgery. 2 years ago I was taking him to Psychiatry for his daily TMS treatments... I was right by his side every step of the way) and then I also have to run to the drug store to pick up his prescriptions.

Money been pretty tight last 3 years, so I ended up going to foodbank... and that's how we survive now...

and all he does is sit around, drink hot tea, watch tv and play with his smart phone (mostly chatting with his relatives that live on the other side of the world). BTW, he is Iranian and I'm not.

I have feelings for him, but at the same time I feel stuck. I want more out of life but then how do I leave everything behind? If I walk away, I have nothing. I don't even have my own car to drive... Everything is under his name.

I don't know what to do.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated...

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Hello Ketene posted:

My boyfriend of 19 years... won't marry me

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

screaming forever

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Nonvalueadded User posted:

Classic oldies time, I guess?

I know the head of our Pantheon is Pete, He Whom All Of Us Should Emulate. But this fine woman should be by his right hand; it took her a while, but I like to think she kept this guy around because she thought of this chump as just another poor animal that required caretaking. Plus, like all the good schad, it’s told from the loser partner’s point of view. And best of all, the chump gets pissed off at her just because he totally owns himself while trying to own her. (Last bolded part in the update.)

You could just pretend the whole thing is bolded. It was hard to just pick a couple of passages from each post. The purestrain schad really starts to shine through in the update.

My girlfriend [24f] wanted ANOTHER pet and I [27m] said NO.


Update:


eta: added Reddit title

Dude got owned but tbh it does seem like more of a standard relationship issue of one person being more invested in their work/hobbies than their relationship. If he was unhappy with it, he was right to put his foot down and it's good that they can separate and find someone they're more compatible with. His weird tirade about her love of animals being childish is off putting, but it does sound like there's a very real aspect of time and financial commitment that he was understandably upset by.

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

ahaha I remembered that story but I'd forgotten how perfectly the OP was the Platonic ideal of a turd

I had forgotten the fairies and mermaids line. Like homeless and/or injured animals are imaginary.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Colonel Gentleman's advice about not getting involved with a Persian a third your age also works the other way around, apparently.

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


How much you want to bet the animal hating boyfriend plays videogames all day?

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die

Hello Ketene posted:

My boyfriend of 19 years... won't marry me

This 67 year old dude seems to have a more active sex life than me

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

Hello Ketene posted:

My boyfriend of 19 years... won't marry me

Did her family sell her to him 19 years ago?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Bored posted:

Did her family sell her to him 19 years ago?

Not saying that didn't happen but they are in California so it would be safe to assume that is not the case.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
A person who considers having pets and liking animals to be childish is a terrible, terrible person.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
"oh yeah, why don't you save some children? :smug:"

"ok that is a good idea. any recommendations?"

"*can't even muster up the name of a single charity that helps childs* gently caress u bitch :mad:!!"

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

I don't know how someone even reaches the conclusion that liking animals is childish. Having a pet dog is a mature and good thing and when children are given the opportunity to raise a pet it's meant to be a test of maturity, to see whether they can handle a relatively low bar of adult-like responsibilities

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
also for someone who is an extremely passionate animal lover, 2 dogs and 2 cats does not strike me as particularly craaaazy

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
and guess what, if you dump your boyfriend u got room for another cat!

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
My sister got my dog’s tail docked without permission

quote:

My sister took my dog for a week while I traveled. I have watched her kids and pets before. I believe family should help each other out.

When I came back I found my dog had been taken to have his tail docked. He’s a spaniel and beautiful. But he was not a show dog and I never intended for him to be breed perfect.

My sister has always had fancy dogs that were altered as needed by breeders. I got Rex from a friend who had puppies and he doesn’t have papers.

My sister is thirty seven years old. I am twenty eight. She often treats me like a little girl despite us both being adults. When I found out I was furious and took Rex home.

It’s been a week and I am still furious she did this. He had an absolutely adorable tail and always played with it. He’s still a puppy and while he has been “de balled” I have told my family how I feel about taking off body parts so dogs look “cute” and I have always been outspoken about this kind of thing.

I am not sure how to go from here. I don’t want to see my sister and I have not taken any calls from her. Her husband apologized and said he figured I agreed to it. I told him i would have taken the dog myself.

I don’t know how to deal with this bs. It’s tiring. People are telling me it’s just a tail. But my sister went against a deep principle I have (being kind to animals) and did this.

All trust is gone. What do I do?

tl;dr left my dog with my sister for a week. She had his tail docked. I’m furious.
:murder:

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Docking is hosed up. On some, SOME, working dogs it makes sense but that is literally it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
And it only 'makes sense' on dogs that have already been crippled through inbreeding anyway.

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

I can't even comment on the Iranian Humbert Humbert and the clueless Dolores Hayes who was too loving stupid to call Clare Quilty after 19 goddamned years. It's breaking my brain to think about it.

Pick posted:

"oh yeah, why don't you save some children? :smug:"

"ok that is a good idea. any recommendations?"

"*can't even muster up the name of a single charity that helps childs* gently caress u bitch :mad:!!"
Among such a smorgasbord of delights, that is the one I love the most.


While trying to remember enough details of the story to find it, I assumed that the girlfriend had dozens and dozens of animals in the house. I too was surprised to find that it was only six (including the two tree frogs). But there's no arguing that she's a little crazy. For example, "she has the dogs go to day-care ECT!" Now, I'm in favor of any effective treatment for mental health disorders, but I don't see why two dogs should have to be subjected to daily electroshock therapy. That's just excessive.

quote:

I love dogs too
Bullshit. Does anyone believe that if this guy actually had a dog that he'd be fine with a shelter mutt (the only unpunchable type of dog) instead of a purebreed? Or that he'd actually take responsibility for feeding/watering/walking/vet appointments and most importantly spending time playing with and training the dog? Or rather if the dog were diagnosed with canine leukemia but only a super-mild early-stage version, and it would cost him just $400 for a miracle treatment, anyone doubt that the next day this guy would have a hole dug in the backyard and a new graphics card in his PC?


fake edit: didn't realize I had this window open/this reply unposted for so long. But refreshing the thread let me read about yet another dog-related douchée.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
Not that I don't like animals or anything, but sixty dogs, at home, might be a bit excessive. Even assuming he's exaggerating that's still a heck of a lot of dogs.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Haifisch posted:

My sister got my dog’s tail docked without permission

:murder:

this is just reminding me of that guy with the dickhead neighbor who sued for his dog, won on default, and had it put down immediately just to gently caress with him and now I'm sad again

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Pick posted:

also for someone who is an extremely passionate animal lover, 2 dogs and 2 cats does not strike me as particularly craaaazy

Two dogs, five cats, and we used to have a free-roaming turtle too :v: that dude is the hugest of weenies and it's good that she booted him.

E: did not see the tail docking tale. :killing:

Malachite_Dragon fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 8, 2018

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
I'm glad that numb nuts removed himself from animal loving girl's life.

It's nice to read a story with a happy ending.

EDIT: I have never heard of docking a dogs tail before, I didn't even know it was a thing. Thankfully I live in a country where that's illegal because holy poo poo. Holy loving poo poo.

hooman fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jul 8, 2018

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Sagebrush posted:

there's no way anybody jizzes on their ipad and then methodically documents each time in their porn folder.

oh my sweet summer child

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Caganer posted:

why would i not do something i want to

:goonsay:

Because. :crossarms:

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
While we're on dogs, does anyone have the story of Barbarian Brother who wears his wolf-dog like a cape and paves driveways with his bare hands?

welcome to hell
Jun 9, 2006
See if you can guess the ending from the title.

Michigan: Do you need the mother's consent for a paternity test? I want to get one but I do not think my girlfriend will let me.

quote:

My girlfriend and I have been together for 8 years. We recently graduated from college (1 year ago) and have a 6 month old son. I trust her but I do want to get a paternity test. I've had some insecurity issues I never really got checked out,

My question is, do I need her consent to get a paternity test? I dont want to ask her because she will likely get defensive and break up with me but I still want to get the test. I dont suspect she cheated but I need that peace of mind and verification that my son is biologically my own.
UPDATE: Michigan: Do you need the mother's consent for a paternity test? I want to get one but I do not think my girlfriend will let me. Did the test. He is my son.

quote:

Got a DNA kit from CVS the same day I asked my question (girlfriend went to visit her parents for a few days so I had time to myself) Sent the kit in (took a little longer than what the kit said to arrive but it got there in about a week). I got the results online in a few days and it said that the probability of paternity is 99.99%, thus confirming that my son was indeed my son.

I'm not entirely sure why I did this. I guess I just really needed that peace of mind. I've never suspected my girlfriend of cheating, never had any reason to believe she cheated, and trust her completely. I guess it was just an irrational fear due to reading some stupid crap online in the past few months and getting way too paranoid. I read some horror stories where guys have their wives cheat on them and end up raising other guys kids for their entire lives and find out several decades later and I started having this irrational fear that I would be that person. In reality, my girlfriend would never cheat on me and we've been together since high school, she's my best friend and there's no reason to suspect infidelity or any foul play.

Afterwards, I told my girlfriend that I got the paternity test and she was very angry and is making us go to couples therapy and told me to get individual therapy as well.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Beachcomber posted:

While we're on dogs, does anyone have the story of Barbarian Brother who wears his wolf-dog like a cape and paves driveways with his bare hands?

Haha it wasn't even brother it was like cousin or something who recently had his dad die and he was like Australian lol

The story was amazing on so many levels.

welcome to hell posted:

See if you can guess the ending from the title.

Michigan: Do you need the mother's consent for a paternity test? I want to get one but I do not think my girlfriend will let me.

UPDATE: Michigan: Do you need the mother's consent for a paternity test? I want to get one but I do not think my girlfriend will let me. Did the test. He is my son.


hahaha dumbass self owns are so awesome.

welcome to hell
Jun 9, 2006
dog cape is one of the all time greats

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007


I think the dog shoes one is.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008


That guy sounds like he's amazing at everything whereas the OP's only good at self-owning

:qq: I don't feel comfortable watching anime and cosplaying in the basement anymore :qq:

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

welcome to hell posted:

See if you can guess the ending from the title.

Michigan: Do you need the mother's consent for a paternity test? I want to get one but I do not think my girlfriend will let me.

UPDATE: Michigan: Do you need the mother's consent for a paternity test? I want to get one but I do not think my girlfriend will let me. Did the test. He is my son.

Kick him to the loving curb

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

HIJK posted:

Kick him to the loving curb

Why? That punishes their child more than it punishes him. This really seems like something they should go to therapy over (which they are) but doesn't seem like reasonable grounds for divorce (assuming there aren't important additional details being left out)

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

that guy is going to be a way worse dad than no dad would be

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

QuarkJets posted:

Why? That punishes their child more than it punishes him. This really seems like something they should go to therapy over (which they are) but doesn't seem like reasonable grounds for divorce (assuming there aren't important additional details being left out)

What good would come from getting a paternity test that indicates the child ain't his? That the insecurities he feels are valid? They've been together since highschool, my guess is their relationship has a whole lotta maldaptive behaviors goin on because neither of the two have had enough dating experience to contextualize what it is they want from a relationship and how they can adequately communicate that to each other.

Lets say the test indicated the kid likely ain't his. What would he do with that knowledge? Hes probably already on the birth certificate, so he'd still likely have to pay child support for 17 years. Would he use that to break up with her? I bet he feels insecure and inadequate sexually, and is questioning whether his wife may be attracted to other men. I don't know very many men with deep insecurities willing to break up with their partners; my guess is that he would use the knowledge to bludgeon his wife into submission on relationship issues and make her life a living hell. Dude wants to stay home all day playing video games while the wife works 60hrs/wk? 'I'm raising a kid that ain't mine, so we're even.'

Maybe a counselor and therapist will help the wife realize its time to :sever:

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

that guy is going to be a way worse dad than no dad would be

the last single mom I hosed was getting out of a relationship with a dude like that OP. Guy channeled his insecurities into borderline abusive behaviors, chick rebelled against his controlling personality by going out and enjoying her early 20s as best she could

My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Jul 8, 2018

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
I dunno, That dudes dead boring prose doesn't really give me much in terms of nuance but even with the fist sized grain of salt of him being the narrator I don't feel like he's unforgivable... I think he just did some dumb bullshit because he got spooked by stories on the internet, I mean he came clean... Than again he dosn't seem remorseful either and he's obviously easily manipulated.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Motherfucker posted:

I dunno, That dudes dead boring prose doesn't really give me much in terms of nuance but even with the fist sized grain of salt of him being the narrator I don't feel like he's unforgivable... I think he just did some dumb bullshit because he got spooked by stories on the internet, I mean he came clean... Than again he dosn't seem remorseful either and he's obviously easily manipulated.

Thats what ya get for being in a relationship with someone since ya'll were in highschool together. If dude had dating experience, he'd know to never loving mention getting the paternity test, to be open and honest about his insecurities, and start seeing a therapist on his own accord to deal with his issues.

Don't date folk since highschool. Date them in highschool, break up for college, and then get back together when ya have some experience with relationships.

Its like admitting to cheating when you don't fear your SO finding out. If you have a one night stand at the governors ball with someone you'll never see again or have contact with, why ruin your relationship and tell your SO?

My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Jul 8, 2018

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"

Nonvalueadded User posted:

Does anyone believe that if this guy actually had a dog that he'd be fine with a shelter mutt (the only unpunchable type of dog) instead of a purebreed?

what the gently caress is wrong with you, all dogs deserve love

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

that guy is going to be a way worse dad than no dad would be

That is a hell of a stretch.

Mad Wack posted:

what the gently caress is wrong with you, all dogs deserve love

You are objectively wrong, the only subjective factor is how wrong you are.

Now, if dog rescue GF was up all night all the time arranging flights for horses we'd call her crazy.

If she was up late arranging flights for snakes we'd call her a creep.

If it was collecting Funko Pops all day erryday we'd mock the poo poo out of her.

But because it's dogs she can act like a complete obsessive to the detriment of her relationship and somehow it's her boyfriend who is an rear end in a top hat?

I don't understand. I grew up around dogs and I like dogs but I just keep seeing people going bonkers over dogs, even theoretical dogs and it blows my mind.

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tactlessbastard posted:

That is a hell of a stretch.


You are objectively wrong, the only subjective factor is how wrong you are.

Now, if dog rescue GF was up all night all the time arranging flights for horses we'd call her crazy.

If she was up late arranging flights for snakes we'd call her a creep.

If it was collecting Funko Pops all day erryday we'd mock the poo poo out of her.

But because it's dogs she can act like a complete obsessive to the detriment of her relationship and somehow it's her boyfriend who is an rear end in a top hat?

I don't understand. I grew up around dogs and I like dogs but I just keep seeing people going bonkers over dogs, even theoretical dogs and it blows my mind.

Eh, if the story is true the guy is clearly an unreliable narrator trying to make himself appear as the rational and reasonable one. She is able to financially support herself doing it on a legal secretary's salary, it's not like she's prioritising it over work, running a menagerie out of her garage or even getting incredibly involved every day of the week.

Tbh he came across a whiny little pinhead who can't deal with not being to sole focus of his SO's attention.

Which makes it all more of a commentary on modern men being needy loving babies, rather than society pandering to dogs.

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