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radlum posted:Siege was amazing, Thors was pretty good too. Don't worry, it's all pretty simple: the Whizzer is their dad.
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TwoPair posted:I'm still mad that Star Lord and Kitty Pryde ends with them finding Rocket Raccoon's tail and Star Lord asking if there's any cloning place around, then when he shows up at the climax of Secret Wars, he's not accompanied by an army of Rockets. He didn't need an army of Rockets, he had a toothpick. Say hello to my little friend.
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Thaddius the Large posted:Morbid curiosity, I picked up the Secret Wars collection on a whim, are any of the tie-ins worth it? Last Days, Battleworld, War Zones, etc? Inferno and X-Men '92 were aces.
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Personally I can't think of a sw battleworld book that was actively not worth reading those were actually what got me to read comics in general again, except maybe that one X-Men book where everyone was super old and the art was loving ugly as hell, I definitely recommend modok assassin, Angela, Thors, siege, X-Men 92, a force, ghost riders, ummm just all of them
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Jul 13, 2018 16:06
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site posted:Personally I can't think of a sw battleworld book that was actively not worth reading those were actually what got me to read comics in general again, except maybe that one X-Men book where everyone was super old and the art was loving ugly as hell, I agree w this post and the specific recs, almost all the Battleworld titles were worth reading. They were all fun and really leaning into crazy creative freedom. My personal favs list would have Inhumans: Attilan Rising, Hank Johnson: Agent of Hydra, 1602: Witch Hunter Angela, and Weirdworld as well The Red Skull book sucked though.
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Jul 13, 2018 16:30
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The secret wars: secret love one shot was real good too
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site posted:Personally I can't think of a sw battleworld book that was actively not worth reading those were actually what got me to read comics in general again, except maybe that one X-Men book where everyone was super old and the art was loving ugly as hell, How dare you talk poo poo about Ramon Villalobos
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What do you want me to say, i thought the art was awful 
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Lightning Lord posted:How dare you talk poo poo about Ramon Villalobos site posted:What do you want me to say, i thought the art was awful Even if you love Ramon's style you have to know that it is very much not something for everyone. There's some art that you sit there and actually wonder why someone else wouldn't at least like it. Ramon's art is a style that is not for everyone. And that's great! The more art styles the better. It wasn't my cup of tea but I'm glad a style so unique is given the chance to be on a book like that.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:12
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X-O posted:Even if you love Ramon's style you have to know that it is very much not something for everyone. There's some art that you sit there and actually wonder why someone else wouldn't at least like it. Ramon's art is a style that is not for everyone. And that's great! The more art styles the better. It wasn't my cup of tea but I'm glad a style so unique is given the chance to be on a book like that. I've never really warmed up to Frank Quitely, if we're being honest, but I can respect the craft if not the result.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:14
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Dawgstar posted:I've never really warmed up to Frank Quitely, if we're being honest, but I can respect the craft if not the result. Same. There's a lot of artists I feel that way about. Gary Frank is my big one.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:20
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I cannot see the appeal of Howard Chaykin's art.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:31
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Uthor posted:I cannot see the appeal of Howard Chaykin's art. Ever or currently?
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Jul 13, 2018 21:34
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Uthor posted:I cannot see the appeal of Howard Chaykin's art. I feel like I make a huge effort post every couple of years defending Howard Chaykin but the bullet point is, he's very good, he just habitually never gives a poo poo when he gets put on a superhero book. Check out some American Flagg and the old marvel Indiana Jones comics if you want to try to develop an appreciation for him.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:38
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Humberto Ramos for me. Also JRJR but he’s one of those guys who’s good with the right book at least,mjsut gets put every else too.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:41
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I feel like maybe the pendulum of public opinion has swung back in my direction but David Finch and that whole school of post-image hyper-cross-hatched art gives me a headache.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:49
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I am currently reading Mr. Miracle by Kirby and it is great super hero fun, and also the first Kirby stuff I have ever read. I have always seen his artwork in panels and retrospectives and such and I can definitely see why he is the "king". I will, however, nitpick one thing and that is he does pretty much the same face a lot, especially for men. All his guys have the same ragged tooth and flat face thing going on. I love his weapons and technology, and how much energy all of his panels have. Just a thing about his faces though.
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Jul 13, 2018 22:01
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Retro Futurist posted:Humberto Ramos for me. Humberto Ramos is straight up bad.
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site posted:Thors I just need to point out that Thors is a murder mystery where the victim, detective, and all the suspects are all Thor.
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Madkal posted:I am currently reading Mr. Miracle by Kirby and it is great super hero fun, and also the first Kirby stuff I have ever read. I have always seen his artwork in panels and retrospectives and such and I can definitely see why he is the "king". I will, however, nitpick one thing and that is he does pretty much the same face a lot, especially for men. All his guys have the same ragged tooth and flat face thing going on. I love his weapons and technology, and how much energy all of his panels have. Just a thing about his faces though. DC had another artist draw over him for Superman's head for the Jimmy Olsen series.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:I just need to point out that Thors is a murder mystery where the victim, detective, and all the suspects are all Thor. Law and Thorder.
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Jul 13, 2018 22:05
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Kirby famously couldn't wrap his head around the way Steve Ditko made Spider-man move so a lot early of Kirby art of the web-slinger was clumsily edited before print, sometimes by literally cutting out a Ditko drawing and pasting it on top of Kirby's art.
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Retro Futurist posted:Humberto Ramos for me. Also JRJR but he’s one of those guys who’s good with the right book at least,mjsut gets put every else too. I like Humberto a lot but totally get why others don't, that's why I feel the Villalobas fans. And I loved JRJR on Daredevil. Hated him on Spidey. I know I'm in a minority but that's my feeling. Archyduke posted:I feel like maybe the pendulum of public opinion has swung back in my direction but David Finch and that whole school of post-image hyper-cross-hatched art gives me a headache. The pendulum has been permanently stuck on "No thanks" for me.
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X-O posted:I like Humberto a lot but totally get why others don't, that's why I feel the Villalobas fans. And I loved JRJR on Daredevil. Hated him on Spidey. I know I'm in a minority but that's my feeling. "YOU THINK THIS A STANDS FOR ART!!!!!
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Skwirl posted:"YOU THINK THIS A STANDS FOR ART!!!!! Hehe. I was a huge fan of Humberto Ramos when he was on Impulse in the 90s but he went off the rails faster and more severely than any other artist I can think of. Even just a few years later in that Vampire comic he did for Image Comics 2, he's lost the plot. His newest stuff might as well be some kind of alien pictogram
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Jul 13, 2018 22:29
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Finch isn't an artist that I'd not read a book I want to read over. But if it was a book I was on the fence about I'd probably think twice. Hell Greg Land wouldn't even keep me off a book I was really interested in, which unfortunately has happened way too many times as far as I'm concerned.
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I’m not sure there’s any artist who is a straight up no for me. Even artists who do mostly poor work can occasionally surprise when the story and the situation is perfect.
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Madkal posted:I am currently reading Mr. Miracle by Kirby and it is great super hero fun, and also the first Kirby stuff I have ever read. I have always seen his artwork in panels and retrospectives and such and I can definitely see why he is the "king". I will, however, nitpick one thing and that is he does pretty much the same face a lot, especially for men. All his guys have the same ragged tooth and flat face thing going on. I love his weapons and technology, and how much energy all of his panels have. Just a thing about his faces though. Under the Comics Code crime was not allowed to be presented as anything glamorous or sympathetic or otherwise anything that readers would want to imitate and Kirby's faces tend to remind me of that. His villains, thugs, and goons are UGLY. None of them are people you wish you could be.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Ever or currently? Ever. purple death ray posted:I feel like I make a huge effort post every couple of years defending Howard Chaykin but the bullet point is, he's very good, he just habitually never gives a poo poo when he gets put on a superhero book. Check out some American Flagg and the old marvel Indiana Jones comics if you want to try to develop an appreciation for him. American Flagg is one of the very few books that I've tried reading and just gave up on. And I usually finish books/comics/movies/etc even if I don't like them. I have his issue of Solo and a bunch of appearances in random anthologies and a short story in Simonson's Orion. The thing that turns me off is all the teeth. 😁😬
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purple death ray posted:I feel like I make a huge effort post every couple of years defending Howard Chaykin but the bullet point is, he's very good, he just habitually never gives a poo poo when he gets put on a superhero book. Check out some American Flagg and the old marvel Indiana Jones comics if you want to try to develop an appreciation for him. So he's the artist version of Ennis?
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Garth Ennis wrote the excellent first arc of Spider-Man's Tangled Web.
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Reading an early issue of Daredevil and reveling in the hilarious absurdity of Mike Murdoch I have a two part question. Has any other character pretended to be their own sibling then said that their sibling is their alter ego? Has Mike Murdoch been in any recent/recentish Daredevil issue?
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bessantj posted:Reading an early issue of Daredevil and reveling in the hilarious absurdity of Mike Murdoch I have a two part question. Has any other character pretended to be their own sibling then said that their sibling is their alter ego? Has Mike Murdoch been in any recent/recentish Daredevil issue? He was in a big anniversary issue during Mark Waid's run, but just as a framing narrative I think. Before he's willing to tell Claire his real name during the first season of the Netflix Daredevil show she decides to refer to him as "Mike."
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bessantj posted:Reading an early issue of Daredevil and reveling in the hilarious absurdity of Mike Murdoch I have a two part question. Has any other character pretended to be their own sibling then said that their sibling is their alter ego? Has Mike Murdoch been in any recent/recentish Daredevil issue? The Mike Murdoch saga is one of my favourite early marvel beats. It’s like Stan was bored and just throwing poo poo against the wall. I feel like this is something Peter would do.
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Jordan7hm posted:
<cough cough> CLONE SAGA <cough cough>
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Skwirl posted:Garth Ennis wrote the excellent first arc of Spider-Man's Tangled Web. That arc sucked.
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I've never been able to 'get' Garth Ennis. Like I've read stuff by him that people have praised and I always come thinking 'Really? That?' and just don't get it. And I don't mean I don't understand the books. I just don't get the praise at all. I mean most writers I don't like I can at least get the appeal. I don't care the majority of stuff Grant Morrison does but I totally get why people do.
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X-O posted:I've never been able to 'get' Garth Ennis. Like I've read stuff by him that people have praised and I always come thinking 'Really? That?' and just don't get it. And I don't mean I don't understand the books. I just don't get the praise at all. I mean most writers I don't like I can at least get the appeal. I don't care the majority of stuff Grant Morrison does but I totally get why people do. I get that, he's not for everyone and Preacher has aged horribly. It's practically unreadable in 2018. Ate that poo poo up in 1996 though.
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Hitman's still good. I think it's his best stuff. Dude needs an editor. For like everything else, including Preacher it loses me on re-reads. I remember getting mad at The Boys, but I was probably supposed to, so I didn't want to give Ennis the satisfaction.
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After reading what feels like enough of Ennis for my tablets dictionary to recognize the name, he can write a good, almost not super problematic story if he has to stay within the boundaries like hitman or punisher/fury 2016 max But the guy is pretty trash if you let him off the leash. And it sucks that he hasn't ever recognized this
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