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Mulva posted:Your legs are actually way stronger than your arms, and he's already trained a bit in mitigating the effects of his power. Oh, I know, I was just avoiding using the word "always" 'cause I knew some smartass was gonna be all "Well what if you have a arm-enhancing quirk/are wheelchair bound"
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For someone who's hobby is to analyse quirks, he sure is bad at figuring out how to use his own. All Might needs to sit him down in front of some episodes of DBZ until he gets the idea of running around in full cowling 100% of the time.
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pointlessone posted:For someone who's hobby is to analyse quirks, he sure is bad at figuring out how to use his own. All Might needs to sit him down in front of some episodes of DBZ until he gets the idea of running around in full cowling 100% of the time. He's great at Analyzing quirks, he's just also a gigantic All Might Fan Boy and wants to be just like him.
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pointlessone posted:For someone who's hobby is to analyse quirks, he sure is bad at figuring out how to use his own. All Might needs to sit him down in front of some episodes of DBZ until he gets the idea of running around in full cowling 100% of the time. Yeah he has a blind spot because he loves all might so much he wants to be exactly like him without innovating at all or finding his own path.
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Jul 15, 2018 06:44
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"i could use my legs instead of my arms" is a fairly disappointing revelation, but seeing bakugo come up with several creative uses for his power (the AP shot was cool to see, especially since i'd initially just assumed that his gross sweat cannon thing would be his ultimate move, the same way reciprico got grandfathered into being leg guy's ultimate move) leaves me hopeful that deku will figure out how to make "i'll do the same thing, but with my legs" into something unique and interesting i wonder if bakugo is not only focused on improving his own abilities, but also staying aware of everyone else around him at the same time. his AP shot move seems like an adaptation of the advice alien queen got earlier in the episode, like he maybe heard it and thought "i can do the same thing with my power!" ninjewtsu fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Jul 15, 2018 |
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Jul 15, 2018 10:10
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ninjewtsu posted:"i could use my legs instead of my arms" is a fairly disappointing revelation, but seeing bakugo come up with several creative uses for his power (the AP shot was cool to see, especially since i'd initially just assumed that his gross sweat cannon thing would be his ultimate move, the same way reciprico got grandfathered into being leg guy's ultimate move) leaves me hopeful that deku will figure out how to make "i'll do the same thing, but with my legs" into something unique and interesting For Deku it's not about making a Super Move, it's about defining his fighting style. His finger flicks are closer to super-moves, Or All Mights tornado. But right now he can't focus on making any moves if he doesn't have his style in place. So while he goes "One For All: Full Cowling - Shoot Style" that's not a super move, that's just how he's fighting now.
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Jul 15, 2018 10:48
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I was not thinking in terms of deku getting a super move at all, much more in terms of "I hope deku's new fighting style is more unique than The Same poo poo: Leg Edition." Seeing other characters in the episode use their powers in newer, interesting ways (generally related to super moves, as that's what the episode was about for everyone but deku) leaves me hopeful that whatever action scene deku gets next will also be new and interesting.
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Jul 15, 2018 11:09
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ninjewtsu posted:I was not thinking in terms of deku getting a super move at all, much more in terms of "I hope deku's new fighting style is more unique than The Same poo poo: Leg Edition." Seeing other characters in the episode use their powers in newer, interesting ways (generally related to super moves, as that's what the episode was about for everyone but deku) leaves me hopeful that whatever action scene deku gets next will also be new and interesting. We've gone from Single hits, to finger flicks, to bouncing around like Gran Torino and Bakugo, to doing that but focusing on a kick-based offense. Where exactly did you expect it to go? Right now he can't generate shockwaves without breaking himself. Were you expecting him to spit with enough force for it to act as a ranged attack? Like... his quirk is quite limited to what it CAN do, Martial arts wouldn't help because it'd be following under the same issues. Grappling wouldn't work because the amount of force required would probably break himself...
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Onmi posted:We've gone from Single hits, to finger flicks, to bouncing around like Gran Torino and Bakugo, to doing that but focusing on a kick-based offense. Where exactly did you expect it to go? Right now he can't generate shockwaves without breaking himself. Were you expecting him to spit with enough force for it to act as a ranged attack? Like... his quirk is quite limited to what it CAN do, Martial arts wouldn't help because it'd be following under the same issues. Grappling wouldn't work because the amount of force required would probably break himself... Exactly. One for All pretty much IS a super move, Deku's problem is using it without killing himself in the process. While the rest of the class is trying to figure out creative gimmicks using their quirks, he should be focused on just containing it.
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It's not like Deku hasn't used his legs before, he first used them leaping up at the giant robot in his introduction and even more recently used it to destroy the sword of the reptile from the Villain Association. The revelation wasn't "Wow, I can use my arms instead of my legs", but "Wow, I should focus on a fighting style making use of my legs to relieve my arms when they get tired". His mental hang-up was that because he inherited the quirk from All-might, he had to fight like All-might always has done.
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Also "Shoot" style has multiple things to consider one is actual "Shoot fighting" which is a style of combat that's similar to MMA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shootfighting And the focus on Soccer for 'Shooting' though that one is more of a stretch.
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That was a fun epsiode Always be wary of tinker-types, for everything around them is potentially a new idea to be researched  I'm glad that doesn't stop them from being adorable
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Jul 15, 2018 15:27
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Mulderman posted:Has this been send to Horikoshi yet? https://twitter.com/horikoshiko/status/1018481386703876096?s=09 He's definitely seen it now.
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Jul 15, 2018 18:07
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ninjewtsu posted:i wonder if bakugo is not only focused on improving his own abilities, but also staying aware of everyone else around him at the same time. his AP shot move seems like an adaptation of the advice alien queen got earlier in the episode, like he maybe heard it and thought "i can do the same thing with my power!" I would bet on this. He's a really perceptive fighter. Has to be with the way he loving flies around via controlled explosions. Also he's acutely aware of Deku's progression as the series has shown in the past.
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I'm looking forward to the point where Ochako's zero gravity quirk and martial arts training really click for her, and she jumps up in power to one of the strongest heroes in the class. if she picked up some judo moves like Deku's been using, she could probably use "switch off/on someone's gravity" for a crazy effect edit: if she threw someone while they had zero weight, and then turned it back on as they were falling, the acceleration would be really powerful right? Cephas fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jul 15, 2018 |
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Bofast posted:Good episode, lots of comedic moments What I really like about this is that All Might is actually doing some Ed 101 stuff here  You know, you have to give them to tools to get the answer but not give them the answer so they're internally motivated and invested in their own development; let them experience that discovery for themselves! Even if they're being dummies who don't realize they should try using their legs and not their arms.
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Cephas posted:I'm looking forward to the point where Ochako's zero gravity quirk and martial arts training really click for her, and she jumps up in power to one of the strongest heroes in the class. I mentioned earlier in the thread that I'd love to see her turn into something like an extremely adorable version of how Android 16 fights in Dragon Ball Fighterz - use her gravity powers to launch somebody into the air and then jump after them, then turn the gravity back on and just loving powerbomb them back down to earth.
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Can she alter how much gravity affects an object? Or is it straight on/off? Because microcontrol would be ridiculously powerful.
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AlternateNu posted:Can she alter how much gravity affects an object? Or is it straight on/off? Because microcontrol would be ridiculously powerful. seems to be a binary thing, just on and off
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Cephas posted:I'm looking forward to the point where Ochako's zero gravity quirk and martial arts training really click for her, and she jumps up in power to one of the strongest heroes in the class. One fic I've read had a nice idea: Use her quirk on someone, grab and twist to send them spinning vertically, then get out of the way for when they inevitably puke.
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AlternateNu posted:Can she alter how much gravity affects an object? Or is it straight on/off? Because microcontrol would be ridiculously powerful. If it's possible she better fuckin get working on it because yup
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Wait, if Ochako tags a villain with zero gravity and Deku uses One for All to knock them upwards, they'd probably be able to send the person into space, right? 
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Cephas posted:Wait, if Ochako tags a villain with zero gravity and Deku uses One for All to knock them upwards, they'd probably be able to send the person into space, right? And that's how you deal with All For One properly
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Cephas posted:Wait, if Ochako tags a villain with zero gravity and Deku uses One for All to knock them upwards, they'd probably be able to send the person into space, right? I've been expecting that particular combo since the first nomu fight.
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Cephas posted:Wait, if Ochako tags a villain with zero gravity and Deku uses One for All to knock them upwards, they'd probably be able to send the person into space, right? In reality, atmospheric friction would stop them well before the got to space (unless Deku hit them so hard that they'd probably disintegrate anyway). In shonen comics? The sky's literally the limit, baby!
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Mirage posted:In reality, atmospheric friction would stop them well before the got to space (unless Deku hit them so hard that they'd probably disintegrate anyway). Uraraka's quirk breaks all kind of rules, like making objects quasi-massless. It's possible that it may also reduce or ignore air friction. I mean, even if using her quirk on herself is straining, you'd think she'd be tempted to try and use a wingsuit--unless she can't. She should still try and request some light rockets for her suit though 
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Well she did make the ball go "infinity meters", so there's no limit I guess. Also Mina would make a really good rescue hero.
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Mr. Fowl posted:What I really like about this is that All Might is actually doing some Ed 101 stuff here Agreed 
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Cephas posted:Wait, if Ochako tags a villain with zero gravity and Deku uses One for All to knock them upwards, they'd probably be able to send the person into space, right?
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I am not a regular to this thread so this is probably the coldest take ever but do the stakes ever increase for Deku in a combat scenario again? I get that his main conflict went from wanting to fit in/wanting power -> wanting to live up to All Might's expectations and protect those around him, so the show is less "can Deku beat X" and more "can Deku get their in time to prevent Y", but it still feels good to have a protagonist be challenged personally. I've felt this way ever since he gained the ability to more or less use his full power without injuring himself seriously, and that's probably going to be amplified when he starts using his naturally stronger limbs more often to attack. I'd love to see Bakugo and the other combat-oriented members of the class catch up to him again because right now the gulf seems as wide as the gulf between Deku and All Might in his prime.
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Deified Data posted:I am not a regular to this thread so this is probably the coldest take ever but do the stakes ever increase for Deku in a combat scenario again? I get that his main conflict went from wanting to fit in/wanting power -> wanting to live up to All Might's expectations and protect those around him, so the show is less "can Deku beat X" and more "can Deku get their in time to prevent Y", but it still feels good to have a protagonist be challenged personally. I've felt this way ever since he gained the ability to more or less use his full power without injuring himself seriously, and that's probably going to be amplified when he starts using his naturally stronger limbs more often to attack. I'd love to see Bakugo and the other combat-oriented members of the class catch up to him again because right now the gulf seems as wide as the gulf between Deku and All Might in his prime. Whenever he reaches 100% naturally he'll be far far beyond anything Todroki or Bakugou could reasonably do though.
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Huh? Deku very specifically can't use his full power right now without blowing himself up. The whole point of his recent innovations are allowing him to fight by maximizing what he can do himself with his current limit of only being able to handle 5%. In terms of the class Deku is high up there but would still have issues with either Todoroki or Bakugo at the very least. More importantly the rest of the class is going to keep on growing so there will still be pressure from his classmates at the very least.
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I guess there hasn't been a suitable enough comparison to tell since the last tournament arc
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From the other thread. https://twitter.com/MinovskyArticle/status/1019018974556803072
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Deku is near the top of his class powerwise, but that's in very specific situations, in a one-on-one contest, Todoroki would probably beat him, and with Tokoyami learning how to negate his close-range weakness, and Deku lacking in light-production, he'd have a tough time with him as well. If I had to rank the class right now top 5 would be like Todoroki Bakugo Tokoyami Deku (Working within his limits) Yayorozu The more Deku improves, the more strides he'll make.
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Fabricated posted:From the other thread. Love it. This show is so good even though it follows standard tropes. I sincerely hopes it lasts a long time. Jim Lee did it too: https://twitter.com/JimLee/status/1018571849968463872 Diabetic fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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Onmi posted:Deku is near the top of his class powerwise, but that's in very specific situations, in a one-on-one contest, Todoroki would probably beat him, and with Tokoyami learning how to negate his close-range weakness, and Deku lacking in light-production, he'd have a tough time with him as well. If I had to rank the class right now top 5 would be like I might put Ochaco over Momo for now, at least until Momo gets more confident in herself. Probably Tsui too. All assuming we're talking about straight up fights, anyway.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I might put Ochaco over Momo for now, at least until Momo gets more confident in herself. Probably Tsui too. All assuming we're talking about straight up fights, anyway. I think with her recent developments Momo is a better fighter than Tsui or Ochako, The Rising she got vs Aizawa was a big boost. Not that Ochako and Tsui aren't up there. But the Practical Exams will be our chance to see how everyone's developed.
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