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unbutthurtable posted:okay I've had a critical eye on AOC for a week or two now, but that made me VERY protective There's a difference between "AOC is saying some things about businesses and Israel that make me uncomfortable" and "AOC simply has no respect for our venerated pecking-order OR old boys' club, harrumph" Similarly you can be mad about Bernie's #decorum tweets but then when someone says he should stop talking about income inequality because there's important Russia stuff happening it doesn't seem to matter as much
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Shear Modulus posted:aoc moderating herself is just as pointless as the dems trying to appeal to republicans because none of the old white men are ever going to like a poorly-behaved uppity brown woman This is correct. Knock it off. Go on Chapo and Cum Town. Not charter school supporter's pods. Call Israel a fail state, there's a lot you can get away with as a freshman congress person.
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Clearly the difference between things mattering and nothing mattering will come down to whether Bernie Sanders tweeted about Russia 3 times or 4 times on July 16th The Republicans are all just kind of idly refreshing Bernie's Twitter page, like, "eh, Bernie Sanders has only tweeted about this 3 times today, no need to suddenly betray my political party even though I'm a huge fascist over that" but boy oh boy if he went for a FOURTH we'd see some fireworks
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:i don’t think this was posted today, enjoy succ zone I call into question Hillary being anything remotely close to 'magnetic' on her own. We've seen that it was just Bill's magnetism being applied in a way that would probably need to be trained in a private school for gifted youngsters. This has been proven by her losing massively after telling Bill to gently caress off with his presidency winning advice.
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ThndrShk2k posted:I call into question Hillary being anything remotely close to 'magnetic' on her own. I think what I've heard is that she's fine and normal as long as she's in a room containing fewer than 10 people
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Jazerus posted:yes that's why you go on their podcasts and subvert their followers no? why would you need to win over these people? Even Bernie holds town halls that don't utilize the mainstream media because he knows they suck (and wouldn't want to give him the time of day to talk about the things he wants to talk about). Go on, I don't know, Contrapoints or something. Get interviewed by Nathan Robinson and Bhaskar Sunkara. I didn't know anything about the shift in thinking about the two-state solution months ago, but the coverage from Citations Needed and Felix's interview with Rawan did the trick.
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ThndrShk2k posted:I call into question Hillary being anything remotely close to 'magnetic' on her own. This isn't the first time I've heard her being described as pretty charming in person. Not like Bill, who's basically a charm elemental, but much less plastic than she comes across as in public. That doesn't say anything about her political instincts or moral character (or Bill's, for that matter).
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If leftist actually want to enact change through political reform, they need to get a couple people elected whose one and only job is to bully and intimidate other members of congress
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MizPiz posted:If leftist actually want to enact change through political reform, they need to get a couple people elected whose one and only job is to bully and intimidate other members of congress loving christ i would love that job
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for the record I'm still With Her in November I just loving hate deray a lot because he's a neolib turd. and this is coming from someone who defended her Buckley tweet that the morons in D&D got upset about.
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MizPiz posted:If leftist actually want to enact change through political reform, they need to get a couple people elected whose one and only job is to bully and intimidate other members of congress this. I still have a lot of hope in ¡Ocasio! but am very sad she is moving to the center to win over PSA podcast listeners. Bully the gently caress out of them.
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 Man why the hell are there so many goddamn monarchists on the Internet Tsar Nick lost his empire because he was incompetent, sic semper tyrannis
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like we just had someone call out the pod save lanyards a few days ago about how goddamn poo poo democrats are. that's how you engage with these nerds.
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Resurrected Huey P. Long today, resurrected Huey P. Long tomorrow, resurrected Huey P. Long forevah
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loquacius posted:
prefect posted:If they didn't want their children killed, maybe they shouldn't have had a hereditary system of power.
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https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1019265787528392704 capitalist to the bone indeed
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Matt Zerella posted:like we just had someone call out the pod save lanyards a few days ago about how goddamn poo poo democrats are. that's how you engage with these nerds. that lady is my hero
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the only way to engage with liberal punditry, media, etc is as adversaries they're the enemy and bully the gently caress out of them
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MizPiz posted:If leftist actually want to enact change through political reform, they need to get a couple people elected whose one and only job is to bully and intimidate other members of congress This job exists. It's literally the majority/minority whip. That's what that is.
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1019265787528392704 trying to distinguish yourself from the field by being indistinguishable from most of them lmao
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I'm getting the idea that I'd probably get downvoted if I said "killing children is the only way to prevent monarchist revolts years down the line" in r/HistoryPorn Maybe if I added "Robert Baratheon did nothing wrong" they'd allow it
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Ocasio became a liberal darling so quickly and did the rounds that tbh one should be insanely wary and looking for signs that the formerly broke 28 year old has been bought out and assimilated into liberalism already.
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loquacius posted:
gently caress yeah, murdering monarchs is awesome. Gonna get banned from the UK for that, but it's so rad.
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basic hitler posted:Ocasio became a liberal darling so quickly and did the rounds that tbh one should be insanely wary and looking for signs that the formerly broke 28 year old has been bought out and assimilated into liberalism already. pump the brakes a bit there bucko
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oh gently caress you
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1019265787528392704 Weren't charter schools originally a progressive/union-backed idea in MA before it got coopted by union/government-busters? E: Like the quote in that article is from 2003 and she's writing about ways to untie schools from property taxes
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I used to think Warren was cool. I'm dumb
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loquacius posted:
He entered WW1 on the advice of the equivalent of his state department. Had he been more theocratic, he would have listened to his trusty peasant mystic buddy Rasputin, and he would have refrained from war. Compare this to the Iraq war, where Czarevitch Bush II engaged in a war of choice under false pretenses in order to avenge the honor of his father, Czar Bush I.
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I listened to her interview with Deray. I don't think she was bad. I am disappointed that she isn't bullying these charter school assholes, but I'm gonna give some faith on holding the line (outside of Israel).
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ikanreed posted:I used to think Warren was cool. I'm dumb
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loquacius posted:
Only because he was set up by Rasputin, who is a monk, evil wizard, or robot depending on if you are reading history, watching a movie, or playing an SMT game In his defense, his beer is pretty good
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We're LITERALLY tearing kids from their parents and they come out months later covered in lice, and this is the most he's got gently caress Obama is garbage
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elizabeth warren has raised the most money out of almost every democrat in the senate. i think she got corrupted lmao
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Matt Zerella posted:pump the brakes a bit there bucko Going fygm isnt unheard of and there's historically no reason to hope for the best here.
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Willie Tomg posted:This job exists. It's literally the majority/minority whip. That's what that is. I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about them being like goons in a hockey game; they should care more about preventing people from voting for and proposing policies than doing it themselves.
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Modus Pwnens posted:Weren't charter schools originally a progressive/union-backed idea in MA before it got coopted by union/government-busters? Oh, that might be exculpatory Cause yeah, Charters were originally a "hey, what if the teachers owned the schools and could set the lesson plans and all that" sort of idea if I remember correctly, and then got IMMEDIATELY co-opted because that wasn't explicitly what they were.
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this is code for detain and separate some white fams too
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Cool that Obama too cowardly to call out trmulp bu name
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Rated PG-34 posted:this is code for detain and separate some white fams too we detained some young folks
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