Pokemon Reborn: It's Dork and Edgy

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Azza Bamboo: Apr 7, 2018; THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

I'm not sure if it's an evolution so much as him losing control of the body fire and then slowly dying.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 01:22

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 20:41

Kith: Sep 17, 2009; You never learn anything
by doing it right.

Azza Bamboo posted:

I'm not sure if it's an evolution so much as him losing control of the body fire and then slowly dying.

Given how incredibly hosed up some pokemon actually are according to the pokedex, it's not like that'd be very strange.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 01:50

Alloran: Dec 30, 2014; I think this line is mostly filler.

I just reread Uranium on the archives and this game makes me long for the reasonable incomprehensibility of that game as opposed to..... whatever this mess of a game is. Godspeed OFS.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 03:03

Zereth: Jul 9, 2003

Alloran posted:

I just reread Uranium on the archives and this game makes me long for the reasonable incomprehensibility of that game as opposed to..... whatever this mess of a game is. Godspeed OFS.

At least Uranium was actually structured like a Pokemon game, with the odd losing access to a route or town because of ~radiation~ aside.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 03:19

Omnicrom: Aug 3, 2007; Snorlax Afficionado

Azza Bamboo posted:

I'm not sure if it's an evolution so much as him losing control of the body fire and then slowly dying.

You've basically summed up 70% of the Mega Evolution pokedex entries from (U)SM.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 06:27

Kurieg: Jul 19, 2012; RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20

Yeah that M-Typhlosion looks pretty great. Though it helps that the cyndaquil line is/was/has been one of my favorites.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 15:56

Arkanian: Sep 18, 2013

Those same guys also made a mega-dugtrio...

(Yes, seriously)

# ? Jul 19, 2018 16:58

ChrisBTY: Mar 29, 2012; this glorious monument

Now I kinda want OFS to dump this garbage fire of a game and play insurgence, where there's a ton of poo poo to mock but it also has a few cool things going for it.
Also: far less morally objectionable.

Arkanian posted:

Those same guys also made a mega-dugtrio...

(Yes, seriously)

I am getting the impression that you feel they should be ashamed of this glorious monument to the Pokemon I used to punk out Sabrina in Gen 1.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:00

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Arkanian posted:

Those same guys also made a mega-dugtrio...

(Yes, seriously)

My only complaint is that perspective implies the ones in the back are super tall, but the bits of dirt from the shameless copy-pasting imply the swarm is wide, not tall.

My verisimilitude! :argh:

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:06

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Arkanian posted:

Those same guys also made a mega-dugtrio...

(Yes, seriously)

This fuckin owns

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:06

Lotus Aura: Aug 16, 2009; KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

Arkanian posted:

Those same guys also made a mega-dugtrio...

(Yes, seriously)

Not seeing how this is a bad thing.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:14

ChrisBTY: Mar 29, 2012; this glorious monument

PMush Perfect posted:

My only complaint is that perspective implies the ones in the back are super tall, but the bits of dirt from the shameless copy-pasting imply the swarm is wide, not tall.

My verisimilitude!

Just pretend they're on a hillside. It's the only way the image works.
And that's FINE.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:16

Kurieg: Jul 19, 2012; RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20

Hey that mega bisharp looks pretty inter

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:23

Capfalcon: Apr 6, 2012; No Boots on the Ground,
Puny Mortals!

Kurieg posted:

Hey that mega bisharp looks pretty inter

No

"Look at its BST! It's fiiiiiine."

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:29

serefin99: Apr 15, 2016; Mikoooon~
Your lovely shrine maiden fox wife, Tamamo no Mae, is here to help!

ChrisBTY posted:

Now I kinda want OFS to dump this garbage fire of a game and play insurgence, where there's a ton of poo poo to mock but it also has a few cool things going for it.
Also: far less morally objectionable.

I don't want him to dump Reborn because I wanna experience it without having to play it myself, but I will second the vote of him playing Insurgence at some point.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:32

Azza Bamboo: Apr 7, 2018; THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

It should be called clusterdug

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:34

FPzero: Oct 20, 2008; Game Over
Return of Mido

Kurieg posted:

Hey that mega bisharp looks pretty inter

No

holy gently caress

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:41

Arkanian: Sep 18, 2013

Dragonatrix posted:

Not seeing how this is a bad thing.

Not saying it is. I just felt it was too hilarious not to bring in to the conversation at some point (and also felt the need for a disclaimer that no, this is not a joke).

Kurieg posted:

Hey that mega bisharp looks pretty inter

No

Meanwhile, M-Dugtrio gets 100 added to his attack and absolutely zero other changes.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:43

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Arkanian posted:

Those same guys also made a mega-dugtrio...

(Yes, seriously)

That actually works pretty well, not going to lie.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:46

Kurieg: Jul 19, 2012; RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20

Insurgence also has Mega Donphan with the ability to ignore any and all type based immunities.

It's called Irrelephant.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:46

MelvinBison: Nov 17, 2012; "Is this the ideal world that you envisioned?"
"I guess you could say that."; Pillbug

Kurieg posted:

Insurgence also has Mega Donphan with the ability to ignore any and all type based immunities.

It's called Irrelephant.

Okay I'm willing to let that one slide.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 17:49

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

Kurieg posted:

Insurgence also has Mega Donphan with the ability to ignore any and all type based immunities.

It's called Irrelephant.

That's beautiful. :allears:

# ? Jul 19, 2018 18:33

Ubiquitous_: Nov 20, 2013; by Reene

Kurieg posted:

Insurgence also has Mega Donphan with the ability to ignore any and all type based immunities.

It's called Irrelephant.

This actually sounds like the type of pun Game Freak would put in.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 18:42

Kurieg: Jul 19, 2012; RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20

Also: Insurgence's Mega Bisharp is something approaching balanced compared to Zeta Omicron's.

+20 attack, +25 Def, +15 SpDef, +35 Speed.

Conversely All Of These Exist

That is apparently Delta Quagsire.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:09

Super Jay Mann: Nov 6, 2008

Kurieg posted:

Insurgence also has Mega Donphan with the ability to ignore any and all type based immunities.

It's called Irrelephant.

Not even lying, that's amazing and I laughed heartily.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:29

Jen X: Sep 29, 2014; To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

Pokemon Insurgence seems like it could be pretty cool if all the needless edginess was tuned the heck down.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:31

Zore: Sep 21, 2010; willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d�etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Kurieg posted:

Also: Insurgence's Mega Bisharp is something approaching balanced compared to Zeta Omicron's.

+20 attack, +25 Def, +15 SpDef, +35 Speed.

Conversely All Of These Exist

That is apparently Delta Quagsire.

Man, the designs there really range from 'kinda cool', to 'lovely spritework' to ' :effort:

recolor'

Honey Glalie and Rocket Vespiquen own tho

Zore fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jul 19, 2018

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:32

Kurieg: Jul 19, 2012; RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20

And several of them are "making a pokemon to fit a type combination" Rather than the other way around.

Cockatrice Pidgeot is pretty cool.

Sea Torterra is pretty cool.

Even if the design isn't terrible, why is the Ralts line Electric/Ice? There's nothing thematic about this really.

This is a Steel/Poison Luxray. Why?

Behold, Flying/Fairy Raichu. Why?

Zore posted:

Honey Glalie and Rocket Vespiquen own tho

It's not Honey Glalie, it's lava Glalie

This is when it mega evolves.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:43

Omnicrom: Aug 3, 2007; Snorlax Afficionado

Were the people behind insurgence aware that Delta Species pokemon were at most were slightly recolored? Or did they not care?

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:45

Black Robe: Sep 12, 2017; Generic Magic User

Kurieg posted:

This is a Steel/Poison Luxray. Why?

No, this is someone's Original Character Do Not Steal. With Elvis' wig for some reason.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:52

Epicmissingno: Jul 1, 2017; Thank gooness we all get along so well!

Omnicrom posted:

Were the people behind insurgence aware that Delta Species pokemon were at most were slightly recolored? Or did they not care?

I don't think they really cared, although I honestly don't blame them. It's a good idea to denote something having a different type visually in some way, otherwise how's the player to know that what they're fighting is different in any way from every other Pokemon of that species? Besides, Insurgence was around before Sun and Moon, so regional forms (which these basically are) weren't a thing yet.

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:55

Zereth: Jul 9, 2003

Kurieg posted:

It's not Honey Glalie, it's lava Glalie

This is when it mega evolves.

You're supposed to provide some evidence in support of your argument when you make a claim like "it's lava, not honey".

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:56

Explopyro: Mar 18, 2018

I spent some time looking through the mega evolutions and "Delta" forms on that Insurgence page yesterday, and honestly I still don't know what to make of them. There are definitely a handful of decent ideas and designs in there, and clearly a lot of effort was put in (do they seriously have a delta for every single pokemon species?!), but so much more of it seems just to be edge for edge's sake and/or cringe-inducingly bad. I think it has less restraint than Uranium did.

(Admittedly, I do think they made some cute jokes. Irrelephant has already been mentioned, but did anyone see the mega stone they made for Girafarig? It's called Etigirafarigite.)

And just like Uranium, they seem to have no sense of game balance.

Did you see the mega eevee form? (whyyyy) As my partner pointed out when I showed it to her, it looks like it got tangled in fairy lights. And its ability is "Protean Maxima" which literally changes it into any evolved form when it uses a move of that type. I guess on some level it's a cute idea (and plays in the same space as some eevee characters in the manga, I think?), but it seems incredibly bizarre gameplay-wise and just utterly unnecessary, and it also means they added move tutors so that eevee can learn top-tier moves from all of its evolutions' types. Sure, why not, I'll take a Jolteon with Surf and Moonblast or whatever, that can't possibly be a bad idea at all!

# ? Jul 19, 2018 19:58

PetraCore: Jul 20, 2017; 👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

I don't like most of these but I like the weird ruin-based ones. Could have made that a weird theme or something in the story. Just do something other than randomly type-swapping 50 pokemon, Alola was way sparer with Alolan forms for good reason.

The worst ones are where they've got two different Delta lines for an evolutionary line because two different people had two different ideas so ofc BOTH have to be implemented, like so.