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Flytrap posted:Tumblr only cares about its ships. Guy could have murdered all of the worlds children in a blood sacrifice to Dagon and Tumblr wouldn't care if they don't make a series without two teenage boys that makes them go 'they should hold hands uwu" That has absolutely nothing to do with the situation and is a really, really bizarre thing to say here.
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Also, My Hero Academia totally has that, it's Deku and Bakugou/Todoroki.
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Jul 22, 2018 02:01
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Flytrap posted:Tumblr only cares about its ships. Guy could have murdered all of the worlds children in a blood sacrifice to Dagon and Tumblr wouldn't care if they don't make a series without two teenage boys that makes them go 'they should hold hands uwu" I agree teens wanting fictional boys to kiss is truly one of the most terrible and disgusting crime there is.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I agree teens wanting fictional boys to kiss is truly one of the most terrible and disgusting crime there is. Well I'm glad we're all in agreement then. I'll release the hounds.
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Jul 22, 2018 02:04
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Roland Jones posted:That has absolutely nothing to do with the situation and is a really, really bizarre thing to say here. SyntheticPolygon posted:I agree teens wanting fictional boys to kiss is truly one of the most terrible and disgusting crime there is. Not what I was getting at. Tumblr is the place making a big outcry. They're not ALSO making a big outcry about anything related to Ruroni Kenshin because it isn't as shippable. The amount of outrage Tumblr is going to have about how horrible and author is, is directly related to how shippable the series is. Like seriously, I'm a dude that likes to kiss dudes, don't even try to turn my words to that angle.
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Jul 22, 2018 02:07
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Like Ruroni Kenshin is a manga from the 90s when anime and manga weren't as easily accessible to a lot of people getting a sequel sorta thing 20 years after its completion. Compared to MHA being a manga released at a time when Shonen Jump is pretty easy to get access to for a lot of Western fans and it has a currently ongoing anime that is rather well-regarded and has brought in a lots of fans who would rather watch shows than read comics. Also MHA has had really good buzz surrounding it for years now as a really well done manga that has kinda replaced Naruto (another manga that got pretty popular worldwide) as one of Jump's top battle Shonen series. While Ruroni Kenshin has had recent talk about "Holy poo poo the author of this comic got busted for having Child Porn" which doesn't really inspire people to check out the manga. And means that there is not as many people really engaged with it to get mad that it's back. There's a bunch of reasons why there are not as many like loud or vocal fans of Ruroni Kenshin among Western audiences compared to MHA. And I think kissable boys isn't really a huge part of that.
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Jul 22, 2018 02:22
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How is Rurouni Kenshin not shippable? You've got the big guy with the big sword who has a way with his hands, and the delicate, effeminate guy who likes his swords sheathed.
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Jul 22, 2018 02:23
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I'm guessing there's not as many people talking about kenshin because a) it's old and they don't care, and b) the news about the author is old and they don't care
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Jul 22, 2018 02:24
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I'm noticing that Viz isn't showing Horikoshi's face in any of their SDCC social media.
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Jul 22, 2018 02:26
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I'm definitely old because all I can think of is "Rurouni Kenshin had a huge shipping scene back in the day". It was the one WSJ series that was super-popular with women.
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Jul 22, 2018 02:26
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The outrage is closer to the fact that a lot of readers project their personal emotions onto characters. and have built up rich, detailed ideas and theories and characterization all in their head. I know people declared this arc "The worst" because it didn't confirm that Dabi was Endeavors secret child, "Worse than the Yakuza arc" I saw. It's not that Endeavor isn't a dick, they just hyped up how much of a dick he was in their head. And then when that super evil dickhead in their head who beats his son and wife and terrorizes his family and is probably an alcoholic too isn't treated with utter revulsion by Todoroki and a wish for his death, clearly that means Horikoshi is awful and deserves to die. The kind of people who send death threats is typically the kind of people who have things black and white in their head. That there is an overlap of these people and people who look at Endeavor and Hawks and go "THEY FUCKIN!" Is not related. You can be interested in wing boy on burning bara and not send death threats or be a weirdo.
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Onmi posted:The outrage is closer to the fact that a lot of readers project their personal emotions onto characters. and have built up rich, detailed ideas and theories and characterization all in their head. I know people declared this arc "The worst" because it didn't confirm that Dabi was Endeavors secret child, "Worse than the Yakuza arc" I saw. That makes a lot of sense. People get really invested into shows these days, they put more of themselves than ever into the worlds and characters, and they get really betrayed when the story zigs when they think it should zag. Unrelated, but please have Florina show up as a corpse  I don't know what that refers to but I know Florina sucks
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Waffleman_ posted:I'm noticing that Viz isn't showing Horikoshi's face in any of their SDCC social media. I read somewhere he specifically asked for no photos or videos during his panel
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Jul 22, 2018 02:45
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I bet he's just there to get autographs and pictures with his favorite western comic book artists. Nerd.
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gmq posted:I read somewhere he specifically asked for no photos or videos during his panel He's a shy lad. The one big video interview he did, he was wearing a Bane mask 
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Jul 22, 2018 03:16
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I am down with Horikoshi wearing a different superhero mask every event he shows up at. Adam Savage does this every Comicon, Yoko Taro does this (with the same mask, obviously), Bryan Cranston did it that one year with the Walter White mask, uhhh... somebody help me out here with other cases.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Like Ruroni Kenshin is a manga from the 90s when anime and manga weren't as easily accessible to a lot of people getting a sequel sorta thing 20 years after its completion. The live action movie adaptations are kinda interesting too. Mostly for how the adaptation was done and how they do the choreography. I too also hope that people don't ask dumb things for the panel but uh, I'm not holding my breath on that.
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Vengarr posted:I don't know what that refers to but I know Florina sucks 
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Jul 22, 2018 03:25
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re all the tumblr stuff: i have noticed that most of the set of people that get into tumblr-style fandoms (and also the gunnerkrigg court comments section) seem prone to hyperaggression toward lovely fathers to a degree that would be comical if not for the extent of the venom
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Patware posted:re all the tumblr stuff: i have noticed that most of the set of people that get into tumblr-style fandoms (and also the gunnerkrigg court comments section) seem prone to hyperaggression toward lovely fathers to a degree that would be comical if not for the extent of the venom and tumblr-style fandom has such deep emotional investment and sense of ownership of a series that when a series handles such themes poorly (read: not entirely to the fandoms liking) they can feel deeply betrayed by the author. Also, why are you reading comment sections? Don't do that. It's bad for you
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Jul 22, 2018 06:32
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It has nothing to do with being overly attached to characters. It's because abuse is a very real and very damaging thing, and Horikoshi is making light of the issue by portraying an abuser sympathetically. I don't think Horikoshi is, but I can definitely see why people are angry.
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Jul 22, 2018 06:45
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I bet those same people think Thanos is sympathetic, even though he isn't.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I bet those same people think Thanos is sympathetic, even though he isn't. this is such a weird loving assumption to make
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Neo_Crimson posted:It has nothing to do with being overly attached to characters. It's because abuse is a very real and very damaging thing, and Horikoshi is making light of the issue by portraying an abuser sympathetically. I feel like an ideal way to "sympathetically" deal with an abuser is the way (very mild Umineko context that isn't really a spoiler) Rosa is dealt with in Umineko. The writing is very clear about not excusing or "redeeming" her, while still shedding light on the circumstances that lead to the abuse and portraying her as a human being.
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We must be seeing different things because part of what makes me so anxious and frustrated about this arc is the amount of people wholeheartedly buying into Endeavor's 'redemption arc', defending him and saying stuff like "Endeavor's legit one of my favs now!' while drawing cute fanart of him. I'm still on the fence about whether or not Horikoshi is purposefully trying to make him sympathetic, but I'm definitely judging the series harsher because it seems to be doing that anyway.
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There are parts of Endeavor you can enjoy. There are parts of Endeavor you can absolutely loathe. Doing both is the secret to enjoying the character and the story it's telling. I don't think Endeavor gets redeemed in this arc. I don't think he ever can be, nor does he think he should be. All Might's retirement put a lot into perspective for him, I think, and the best he's hoping for at the moment is for his son to learn what he can from him professionally.
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tbh i find this treatment of endeavor far more interesting story-wise than if he just existed for todoroki to poo poo on about being a bad dad or whatever it is people mad enough to send death threats want; it's absolutely not a 'redemption' but it's a good look into his own point of view as the new number 1 in a post-all might world
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'What if I giant big rear end in a top hat achieves his dream that caused him to become said giant big rear end in a top hat without actually earning it in the way he wanted so now he feels empty' is a cool plot beat.
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Yeah, it's sort of a "Well, here you are! Was it worth all that, champ?" thing.
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https://twitter.com/yonkouprod/status/1021115983530872832?s=21
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On the one hand, it'll get people to shut up about his dad being All Might or AfO. On the other hand, it will probably only get worse until then now that we confirm the existence of Dad.
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Endeavor changes awful quick as far as trying to reconnect with Shouto and he'll almost certainly end up being forgiven but eh, oh well. More of a journey has been undertaken here than with say, Assassination Classroom and other series.
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Jul 22, 2018 21:39
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Dabi is Deku's father. 
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Dadoriya will just be an older version of Deku, complete with arms crippled by repetitive stress injuries, and he'll cry giant tears about how sorry he is that his job keeps him away from his family.
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Jul 22, 2018 21:56
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Dad Deku will be Jack Midoriya from the original My Hero pilot one-shot.
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All Might and Aizawa challenge Hisashi to the Dad War.
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Waffleman_ posted:Dad Deku will be Jack Midoriya from the original My Hero pilot one-shot. His name was John Fitzgerald Midoriya, and he was a fighter ace and he won the Navy Cross and his men called him "Black jack" Midoriya!
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It's All Might (metaphorically) and everyone will learn a valuable lesson that true family is the one you choose and not the one you're born with. (its really All for One tho)
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