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Tory has soft power in this instance, which is that if he wanted to he could use the platform he has as mayor (i.e. when he says things they make headlines) to paint this as an undemocratic and anti-representative move, which it is, and to say that he'll fight it as a result. Yeah, he doesn't have the legal power to stop this in any way, but if he were to stick to his guns and try to actually raise hell over this issue, there's a good chance he could force Ford to back off. But he doesn't want that fight because he's a coward who's afraid of taking a definitive stand either way in case it offends part of the Toronto electorate, and because he doesn't actually disagree with the end result of a less democratic Toronto where business and developers have more power, so instead he's thought up a way where he doesn't have to make any decision at all.
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Not even going to the courts, for which the Supreme Court had a decision calling for every vote to have equal weight in the first place? I'm not sure of the process here so bear with my naivety.
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/dmrider/status/1022819112504967168?s=19 Exciting watch Tory try to perform opposing it without actually opposing it. This is OPC boilerplate, and almost certainly something Tory would've done if he himself were Premier.
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Sage Grimm posted:Not even going to the courts, for which the Supreme Court had a decision calling for every vote to have equal weight in the first place? Every vote will still have equal weight, it's just that it will be 1/110,000 instead of 1/60,000. There's no legal leg to stand on opposing this measure, municipalities have no power or defined structure except what is given to them by the province and the province can change it at will.
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Jul 27, 2018 13:59
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https://twitter.com/jessiecatherine/status/1022824278884999168?s=19 John pays absolutely no attention to anything.
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Hand Knit posted:Exciting watch Tory try to perform opposing it without actually opposing it. Exactly. Reminder that last time the PCs formed government in Ontario, one of their first acts was literally called the "Fewer Politicians Act" and it significantly reduced the size of the provincial legislature, from 130 to 103. Making government less representative is a longstanding goal of the Ontario Conservatives.
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Jul 27, 2018 14:05
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https://twitter.com/jpags/status/1022822803421233154?s=19 Piece of colluding garbage.
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https://twitter.com/dmrider/status/1022834531475316737?s=19 Let the loving lies begin.
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Jul 27, 2018 14:24
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Your gridlock is terrible. Went there to catch your salmon a couple weeks ago, why the gently caress is the 401 express and collectors a parking lot at 1pm on a Sunday. Fishing was good though.
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Jul 27, 2018 14:27
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https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1022836143509909504?s=19 He leaves out the part where Rob and his friends were responsible for this 90% of the time. https://twitter.com/spaikin/status/1022835300765069312?s=19 Well gently caress there goes Queen's Park too. Mike Harris is back, babyyyy
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Your gridlock is terrible. Went there to catch your salmon a couple weeks ago, why the gently caress is the 401 express and collectors a parking lot at 1pm on a Sunday. Fishing was good though. Decided to stop hiding eh? https://twitter.com/RealChangeBot/status/1022829060584554497?s=19
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Jul 27, 2018 14:31
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vyelkin posted:Exactly. Reminder that last time the PCs formed government in Ontario, one of their first acts was literally called the "Fewer Politicians Act" and it significantly reduced the size of the provincial legislature, from 130 to 103. Making government less representative is a longstanding goal of the Ontario Conservatives. https://twitter.com/sandela/status/1022836715923415040
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Jul 27, 2018 14:35
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Jesus Christ someone needs to rake this fat gently caress over the coals for this. It's infuriating watching evil men get away with stuff.
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Jul 27, 2018 14:35
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lol Ford said that as population grows there needs to be fewer politicians governing them.
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1022836143509909504?s=19 We shouldn't expect anything else, the conservative playbook for the last few decades has been "make government not work right, then justify destroying government because it doesn't work right"
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Jul 27, 2018 14:48
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I almost think Toronto doesn't deserve this.
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Jul 27, 2018 14:59
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There are no serious challengers to Tory and only the deadline for councillors to apply is being extended, not the deadline to apply for mayor, so by 2pm today Tory is effectively mayor again and Council will be shrunken so that his opposition will be cut off at the knees.
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https://twitter.com/goldsbie/status/1022842272243691521?s=19 This ratfucker knew.
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Lobok posted:There are no serious challengers to Tory and only the deadline for councillors to apply is being extended, not the deadline to apply for mayor, so by 2pm today Tory is effectively mayor again and Council will be shrunken so that his opposition will be cut off at the knees. Who is even running against him? I don't remember hearing any recognizable names at all throw their hat in before now.
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I have a hard time getting upset by the actions of Ford or Tory, because they aren't what's keeping progressive policies from being enacted. The thing that keeps the right in power is the lack of grassroots organizing by the left. Full stop. It doesn't matter how many Councillors there are if you've got an organized constituency voting behind you. Right wing politicians have it, progressives do not.
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I don’t support what ford is doing but it seems to be resonating with the electorate. A lot of people are bitter about an allegedly dysfunctional city council that never gets anything done and they dislike politicians so this is actually playing to Fords success. Remember he was elected because most of the province thought the liberals were being wasteful with peoples money. Outside partisan left wing circles the moderates and right wingers fully support this as a sign of hard work and fiscal responsibility. Most people don’t even talk to their city councillors and see municipal politics as something done to them rather than by them so they’d rather just destroy the thing than attempt to use the levers to affect change. Enjoy the stranglehold the suburbs have on Toronto.
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vyelkin posted:Who is even running against him? I don't remember hearing any recognizable names at all throw their hat in before now. That probably factored in the decision making. Sure Tory is going to flip around like a dying fish, but who you gonna vote for? Blayne Lastman?
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Blayne Lastman pulled out from running, HK.
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vyelkin posted:Who is even running against him? I don't remember hearing any recognizable names at all throw their hat in before now. There are a number of candidates with ostensibly progressive platforms*, they're just running small, self financed campaigns and so have all the presence of a fart in a hurricane. It doesn't help that even The Star keeps shouting "Tory running unopposed?" rather than covering their campaigns. *e.g.Sarah Climenhaga, and Saron Gebresellassi Some background, re: council size, representation, and the ward redistricting process. Sorry, twitter threads. https://twitter.com/meslin/status/1022825787320352768 https://twitter.com/g_meslin/status/1022695916040466432
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Kraftwerk posted:I don’t support what ford is doing but it seems to be resonating with the electorate. A lot of people are bitter about an allegedly dysfunctional city council that never gets anything done and they dislike politicians so this is actually playing to Fords success. Remember he was elected because most of the province thought the liberals were being wasteful with peoples money. Outside partisan left wing circles the moderates and right wingers fully support this as a sign of hard work and fiscal responsibility. Which electorate? No one elected him to be Mayor of Toronto.
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Drunk Canuck posted:Blayne Lastman pulled out from running, HK. Okay but history tells us there’s another Lastman son there.
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infernal machines posted:Which electorate? No one elected him to be Mayor of Toronto. much like trump is bitter about never being accepted by the new york elite, ford is bitter about the toronto elite rejecting him which is somehow even more pathetic
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Yinlock posted:much like trump is bitter about never being accepted by the new york elite, ford is bitter about the toronto elite rejecting him which is somehow even more pathetic If I was too dumb and sad for John Tory I’d take it pretty hard too.
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Kraftwerk posted:I don’t support what ford is doing but it seems to be resonating with the electorate. A lot of people are bitter about an allegedly dysfunctional city council that never gets anything done and they dislike politicians so this is actually playing to Fords success. Remember he was elected because most of the province thought the liberals were being wasteful with peoples money. Outside partisan left wing circles the moderates and right wingers fully support this as a sign of hard work and fiscal responsibility. tbf the leadership DOES suck and the liberals WERE being wasteful with people's money the problem is all the bad things liberals did came from the right-wing side of them, and ford is just being liberal but worse
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both centrists and conservatives leverage dissatisfaction with the status quo to campaign on "change", but always redirect the anger away from the real culprits(the rich)
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https://twitter.com/dmrider/status/1022860287995781121?s=19 civil war at City Hall everyone, bring your muskets and pitchforks
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Next time you go to a Cadillac Fairview mall, be sure to flip off the hidden camera in the info kiosk, which is apparently reading your face to collect demographic information and improve your shopping experience.
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/dmrider/status/1022860287995781121?s=19 this is the right move but i'm also sure trudeau is just mad he's not getting a cut one bribe and he'll shut right up
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/dmrider/status/1022860287995781121?s=19 What is this ... feeling. Is it hope?
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/dmrider/status/1022860287995781121?s=19 Good good make toronto its own province please
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Jul 27, 2018 16:17
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Let the rest of Ontario burn. Nothing of value will be lost.
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Reince Penis posted:I have a hard time getting upset by the actions of Ford or Tory, because they aren't what's keeping progressive policies from being enacted. The right-wing gets to gently caress with democracy and governance but it's really the fault of the left-wing for not taking and holding power forever.
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