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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Press coverage of the White House is even worse than useless to begin with. yep it's actively doing harm gently caress every access journalist
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Al! posted:yep it's actively doing harm gently caress every access journalist access to quality and affordable journalism
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Why do the bigger Democrats not simply eat the Chuck Schumer? he's squatting over the wall street donor treasure hoard
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Office Pig posted:how does this person remember to breathe democrats thrive on chaotic goodness such as the inability to govern
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Al! posted:yep it's actively doing harm gently caress every access journalist What game is that from? Who here thinks if Bernie somehow isn't cheated out of the nom in 2020, that the centrists endorse Trump?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Why do the bigger Democrats not simply eat the Chuck Schumer? 
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Crowsbeak posted:What game is that from? They won't be able to cheat him out of the nom. They will probably run a spoiler though
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Crowsbeak posted:What game is that from? i drew it just now
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Lawman 0 posted:They won't be able to cheat him out of the nom. Are there going to be enough boomer-aged decorumcrats to outpace the millennial socialists, tho?
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Al! posted:i drew it just now It's really good. I thought it was from one of those adventure games they sell on GOG.
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Crowsbeak posted:It's really good. I thought it was from one of those adventure games they sell on GOG. thank you
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:Are there going to be enough boomer-aged decorumcrats to outpace the millennial socialists, tho? No. Ironically enough, if there is a voting bloc that the Democrats can afford to lose it's petty bourg coastal liberals.
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Main Paineframe posted:every story in shattered is ridiculous Shattered is an amazing read. If you have google books or kindle, you can download it as an ebook to read on your phone. I like it because of schadenfreude as all of Hillary's ambition is destroyed by her campaigns obsession with being data driven and her own actions. Willa Rogers posted:"stipends" lol. This is from last month. Research conducted by Pay Our Interns, an advocacy group based in Washington, found last year that just over half of Republican senators compensated their interns, while barely a third of their Democratic peers followed suit. Those statistics were bleaker in the House: 8 percent of Republican representatives and 4 percent of Democrats paid their interns. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/us/politics/senate-paid-internships.html The party that is supposed to be for the working man is worse than the republicans in paying interns.
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Pharohman777 posted:The party that is supposed to be for the working man is worse than the republicans in paying interns. more than one republican senator has been caught loving their intern so i think that's more hush money than anything
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Yinlock posted:more than one republican senator has been caught loving their intern so i think that's more hush money than anything “We only gently caress you economically” is an interesting campaign angle, I guess.
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Al! posted:he's squatting over the wall street donor treasure hoard i prefer to think of it as something more akin to a clownfish living in a sea anemone
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Kobayashi posted:“We only gently caress you economically” is an interesting campaign angle, I guess. Hasn't that been their angle? "We can't talk about my ties to payday loans, because the other guy says that gay marriage is straight from the mouths of hell, and wants to end it "
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Al! posted:thank you You've gotten pretty good at Aseprite, I really need to start doing pixel work again I'm still mostly familiar with PaintShopPro4.12
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Yeah and they all flipped because Democrats don't offer any reason to vote for them. With West Virginia, we say "they all flipped" and not "they stayed home," the operative theory being that the West Virginia voters who had been voting for Democrats wanted real conservatives which is why they eventually lost patience with the half-assed conservative Democrats. Which isn't really an argument that the Democrats can win West Virginia by running to the left. Maybe you pull 350k instead of 200k by bringing out disaffected non-voters, but Republicans are still getting 400k votes. That said, Democrats are running dead as is so no harm in trying
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got any sevens posted:because they're unpaid so poor people cant afford to work for free. its by design so they're surrounded by sucophants This is also why positions in the media require years of unpaid intern work.
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It turns out if you believe that people who have been employed in a job that is disappearing because it is both increasingly being automated and people are turning away from it because it is destroying the planet should be provided all the resources possible to find another line of work and economically sustain themselves until they can make the transition, you're an inhuman monster with no empathy I think that for other jobs like farming, it makes sense to support them in the life choice they were born into and brought up on until the markets "changed the deal" well past the age where they qualify for federal programs to go back to college. For coal? No. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jul 29, 2018 |
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galenanorth posted:It turns out if you believe that people who have been employed in a job that is disappearing because it is both increasingly being automated and people are turning away from it because it is destroying the planet should be provided all the resources possible to find another line of work and economically sustain themselves until they can make the transition, you're an inhuman monster with no empathy they aren't attached to coal they're attached to a high paying blue collar industry. give them something else comparable and they'll be perfectly happy!! the alternatives that are proposed by centrists are always poo poo, because centrists are constitutionally incapable of believing that non-professional jobs should pay well and provide good benefits
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buying up surplus crops and destroying them is the most American thing
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Destroy excess crops by firing them into the homeless to clear the streets
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ThndrShk2k posted:Destroy excess crops by firing them into the homeless to clear the streets Seize the hot dog cannon technology from the ballparks of America IMHO.
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Jazerus posted:they aren't attached to coal Yeah, they don't want to become coders. They will take lots of other blue coller jobs if they pay like coal mining does
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brap posted:buying up surplus crops and destroying them is the most American thing death to the hungry
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west virginians would probably take programming jobs if any existed in west virginia, and also if any company would ever actually hire a blue-collar worker who learned to program later
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Gumball Gumption posted:Yeah, they don't want to become coders. They will take lots of other blue coller jobs if they pay like coal mining does coding is a false promise offered up because liberals are tech fetishists who can’t imagine doing anything their donors wouldn’t want for the economy
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Thoguh posted:Seize the hot dog cannon technology from the ballparks of America IMHO. ww4 will be fought with potato guns
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A large component of the democrats hold on states like WV and southern states like AK was it the democrats there were as racist the Republicans there. That isn't to say those states can't be won by appealing to the traditionally unmotivated/abandoned working class in those areas but it's going to be an extremely large hurdle to overcome the issues wrt race especially when the republicans are hammering the RACE WAR button as hard as they can. The path to success in some southern states is motivating/getting every possible minority vote and trying to attract wwc voters enough to win a very slim majority against the terrified white population. Jazerus posted:they aren't attached to coal High paying blue collar work is rare in almost every part of the country and where it exists is mostly in oil fields or city centers. This is why anything less than bring back the CCC and the government just employing people directly isn't going to work. That said; it's incredibly unfair to the vast majority of the working population that primarily lives in/around cities that every part of the political spectrum save a small slice is concerned with the needs of rural America. Coincidentally this is a problem that has existed since the original colonies.
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Centrists have always loved job training because it puts the onus of fixing the economy, along with the cost and responsibility, directly upon the worker. They have to pay for night classes, they have to choose a career path, when said career choice inevitably doesn't pan out it is the fault of said worker, not the economy. The same thinking has infected colleges, where students now fret over what career field to go into, and look at college exclusively as a place to pay for job training skills that will pay off in the long run. It's ridiculous for so many reasons, the first being that in no way are people capable of predicting what the economy needs ten to fifteen years from now. None of this ever questions capitalism, none of it ever involves taxing companies to pay for it. It's a huge catastrophic burden placed on displaced workers. And centrists know it doesn't work. But it's just so convenient to call for instead of actually addressing any real problem.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:coding is a false promise offered up because liberals are tech fetishists who can’t imagine doing anything their donors wouldn’t want for the economy not to mention that a lot of the low hanging fruit, like configuring SAP modules, has already been outsourced to low cost delivery centers overseas. I haven't worked with a single packaged goods company that didn't have extensive IT operations in eastern Europe, India, or the Philippines.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:With West Virginia, we say "they all flipped" and not "they stayed home," the operative theory being that the West Virginia voters who had been voting for Democrats wanted real conservatives which is why they eventually lost patience with the half-assed conservative Democrats. Which isn't really an argument that the Democrats can win West Virginia by running to the left. Maybe you pull 350k instead of 200k by bringing out disaffected non-voters, but Republicans are still getting 400k votes. This is horseshit that elides the awful messaging of the campaigns and sheer desperation on the part of voters
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Rand alPaul posted:Centrists have always loved job training because it puts the onus of fixing the economy, along with the cost and responsibility, directly upon the worker. They have to pay for night classes, they have to choose a career path, when said career choice inevitably doesn't pan out it is the fault of said worker, not the economy. The same thinking has infected colleges, where students now fret over what career field to go into, and look at college exclusively as a place to pay for job training skills that will pay off in the long run. It's ridiculous for so many reasons, the first being that in no way are people capable of predicting what the economy needs ten to fifteen years from now. Do you have any examples of jobs which have massively changed in demand within two decades of time? I agree with your point, but I like to collect citations for purposes of having them readily available in discussions with people that might be persuaded. I'll go digging for them later to post here when I have the time. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Jul 29, 2018 |
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