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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I've heard of some aussie leaks stating that Trump's ready to bomb Iran in a month. Grain of salt or

:sherman:

Also Egypt just assassinated one of the leaders of Ethiopia's Renaissance dam project. Karma soon.

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Spacewolf
May 19, 2014
Link on the Egypt-Ethiopia thing?

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Sinteres posted:

https://twitter.com/salamamoussa/status/1022795927541739520

Holy poo poo, Hagel was straight up insubordinate before the coup:

"The White House was sending Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel talking points intended to warn General Sisi that Washington would punish a coup. Among other things, United States law mandated a cutoff of aid to any military that overturned an elected leader.

But the message Mr. Hagel delivered “was totally, totally different,” a senior official on the National Security Council who read transcripts of the calls later told me. “The White House wanted the message to be, ‘Democracy is important,’ and Hagel wanted it to be, ‘We want to have a good relationship.’ We never could get him to deliver stern talking points.”

Israeli leaders had said they were counting on General Sisi because they worried that — despite Mr. Morsi’s repeated pledges — the Muslim Brotherhood might threaten the border or help Hamas. And General Sisi himself had told Mr. Hagel that “there are some very evil, very bad forces afoot — you cannot understand it like we can understand it here.”

Mr. Hagel said he had agreed with them all and sought to reassure them: The Muslim Brotherhood “is dangerous — we recognize that,” Mr. Hagel said he told the Emiratis. “I don’t live in Cairo, you do,” Mr. Hagel said he had told General Sisi. “You do have to protect your security, protect your country.”

This is what you get for keeping Republicans in your administration. loving disgraceful.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

Spacewolf posted:

Link on the Egypt-Ethiopia thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4iRpwxeXyg

That Egypt ordered it is speculation, but from that report it seems pretty certain that he was professionally assassinated.

Saladman fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Jul 29, 2018

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Even Morsi was caught discussing the possibility of using the military options to destroy that dam (though he said he'd prefer a diplomatic approach), so it being a potential problem for Egypt (or at least a convenient opportunity to make more demands for water rights) is a pretty widely held view.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010
Yeah, but hard to see how assassinating this guy when the dam is already set and nearly finished doesn’t seem like it will really help their goal, and if it’s proven to be them, then it might make Ethiopia openly antagonistic.

I mean Egypt is definitely a good suspect but there are plenty of other reasonable suspects as well. It’s not like “who bombed Syria’s nuclear reactor, Israel or Israel?”

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
I mean Eritrea could be feeling nostalgic and this is how Afwerki says he misses the old days? gently caress it. Makes about as much rational sense as anything else to happen in the last decade.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
CaspianReport did a video on the dam a while back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_8X8tbjqjg

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Orange Devil posted:

This is what you get for keeping Republicans in your administration. loving disgraceful.

Boy obama not enforcing The red line sure did help syria nip this nasty civil war. Or the Sec of state continuing republican doctrine of stealing iraqi oil. Syrian civil war tailspun under a centrist dem.

poopinmymouth
Mar 2, 2005

PROUD 2 B AMERICAN (these colors don't run)

Radio Prune posted:

CaspianReport did a video on the dam a while back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_8X8tbjqjg

Fascinating, thanks

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHLrcI3fdDI

Doc Neutral
Jan 31, 2014
What is most likely to happen to the SDF if Turkey leaves Syria, will it get the KRG treatment post-independence vote or will Assad allow them some form of autonomy?

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Turkey is leaving Syria on about the same schedule that America is leaving Afghanistan, so that schenario is hardly imminent. SDF is going to come into some kind of accomodation with Assad because they've got about zero other alternatives for avoiding a two-front war situation. Incidentally because America is getting out of Socialist Kurdistan, just as soon they figure out the most profitable way of betraying the PYD.

Doc Neutral
Jan 31, 2014

lollontee posted:

Turkey is leaving Syria on about the same schedule that America is leaving Afghanistan, so that schenario is hardly imminent. SDF is going to come into some kind of accomodation with Assad because they've got about zero other alternatives for avoiding a two-front war situation. Incidentally because America is getting out of Socialist Kurdistan, just as soon they figure out the most profitable way of betraying the PYD.

Erdogan is known for being somewhat fickle, what are the chances that he'll cut a deal with Assad to gently caress over SDF?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Once the regime has displaced its opponents from Syria proper, it will offer the PYD a bunch of glorified nothing, and in exchange the PYD will be expected to turn over administration of rojava peacefully to the Syrian government, disarm, and allow Syrian troops to move back into all major population centers. If they resist, they will be denounced as terrorists while simultaneously being targeted by a campaign of targeted assassinations and kidnappings. I expect they'll be happy to parade around their glorified nothing. There's some Kurds in Qamishli that are going to flee before that happens though, given how the regime has gone after everyone else who rose up in 2011-12.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Doc Neutral posted:

Erdogan is known for being somewhat fickle, what are the chances that he'll cut a deal with Assad to gently caress over SDF?

who the gently caress knows but after all this bloodshed sponsored by turkey, I doubt assad would be very keen on it

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

doesn't erdogan seriously loathe assad? i recall that being received wisdom a while ago

Doc Neutral
Jan 31, 2014
I dunno know about that with Assad wanting to tighten his grip on the country to avoid future rebellions and Turkey hating anything kurd, I don't see any positive developments in the near future or maybe I'm just being cynical here.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Turkey was unquestionably one of the Assad regime's largest opponents. Turkish MIT has a very active assassination program in Syria until at least 2016, and Turkey smuggled a fair bit of weapons and support to turkish-aligned rebel groups

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Doc Neutral posted:

What is most likely to happen to the SDF if Turkey leaves Syria, will it get the KRG treatment post-independence vote or will Assad allow them some form of autonomy?

"Peace in our time" followed by a shadow border conflict fought over landcontrol between assadists and turks. Think of a ukraine style "ceasefire" where there are still potshots and violations daily, but the main strean audience believes peace is upheld. Turks are not just going to walk back accross the border, especially with elements proclaiming Mosul as a new region of turkey

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos
iraqis are really loving this up still

https://twitter.com/Bilesa_Shaweys/status/1023671951380893697

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes


Youd think assad would have taught people that machine gunning protestors might have repercussions.

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

LeoMarr posted:

Youd think assad would have taught people that machine gunning protestors might have repercussions.

it worked for him, eventually

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010
So based on LiveUAMap it looks like the Daesh pocket in Golan has collapsed and been recaptured by the SAA, leaving ISIS with a couple patches of barren wasteland with no permanent inhabitants, plus a couple towns on the left bank of the Euphrates next to the Iraq border. It was kind of surprising to me how quickly the Golan pocket was crushed. I guess the SAA isn't overextended and the remaining Daesh fighters must be the JV team and/or conscripted children.

Also lol at all the LiveUAmap comments "Israel is making GBS threads itself with the mighty SAA back on its border, SAA coming for you next!!". What universe do those people live in?

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Saladman posted:

What universe do those people live in?
Nationalism is a hell of a drug.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Egypt: not just oppressive toward its own citizens:

https://twitter.com/nikiblack/status/1023946513704280064

Sometimes I wonder if posting about other countries online is reducing my ability to travel in the future, and this fuels that paranoia.

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jul 30, 2018

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Sinteres posted:

Egypt: not just oppressive toward its own citizens:

https://twitter.com/nikiblack/status/1023946513704280064

Sometimes I wonder if posting about other countries online is reducing my ability to travel in the future, and this fuels that paranoia.

Reading the article, apparently it could have been worse

quote:

Mona was originally sentenced to 11 years in prison, but her sentence was reduced to eight years after her lawyer presented evidence that a 2006 surgery removing a blood clot from her brain impaired her ability to control anger.

loving hell.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

The Independent published an interview with Seymour Hersh, which they then deleted (apparently published online early in error) which has some pretty choice quotes:

quote:

Hersh tells me: “I don’t necessarily buy the story that Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. We really don’t have an ending to the story. I’ve known people in the [intelligence] community. We don’t know anything empirical about who did what”. He continues: “The guy was living in a cave. He really didn’t know much English. He was pretty bright and he had a lot of hatred for the US. We respond by attacking the Taliban. Eighteen years later… How’s it going guys?”

quote:

Hersh tells me that this is “as close to a just war” because Assad is fighting to prevent an Islamist takeover and the imposition of Sharia law.

quote:

It is important to point out that Hersh is not a conspiracy theorist.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

HorrificExistence posted:

it worked for him, eventually

Insofar that he is not dead yet. Causing a massive civil war, then very slowly winning is not really working, that's more like making it to the finishing line long after the race is over

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

Ikasuhito posted:

Reading the article, apparently it could have been worse


loving hell.

That's the dumbest thing, and will hurt Egypt far more than her viral video could have done in the first place. I don't understand how countries like Egypt and Turkey can't see that arresting tourists and other random foreigners is not a great idea for an economy substantially based on tourism.

But yeah I definitely would not make any public posts on Facebook about any of those countries.


VVV: Yeah, in Egypt I would not worry as a Euro-US citizen for that reason — jfc poor Lebanon — , but in Turkey I'm a little bit more wary. Not enough to not go at all, but... definitely enough to make me think twice whenever I buy tickets, and it has to include a reason to besides just vacation. For just tourism, I'd definitely pick somewhere else over Turkey. Although if I'm going for some other reason, I'll extend because drat Turkey is lovely and has so much to offer. (NB: genuine thought, not an Erdogan suckup comment in case he hax my SA account.)

Saladman fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jul 30, 2018

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Saladman posted:

That's the dumbest thing, and will hurt Egypt far more than her viral video could have done in the first place. I don't understand how countries like Egypt and Turkey can't see that arresting tourists and other random foreigners is not a great idea for an economy substantially based on tourism.

But yeah I definitely would not make any public posts on Facebook about any of those countries.

It's about domestic politics imo. They get to grandstand as protectors of their country against dirtbag foreigners who want to attack it, and even if they aren't a real democracy, populism still has its place. It's bad for the country as a whole, but if the leaders can get a short term spike, maybe they don't care. The hope is also presumably that it'll be a bigger issue at home than abroad, and maybe someone from a country weak enough to have its leader kidnapped seems like a safe target. Pretty decent chance she'll get some sort of clemency after the hype dies down imo.

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jul 30, 2018

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
The value of the rial hit some new benchmark in badness setting off another round of protests. Esfahan seems to be the center of it for now.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Raman_Ghavami/status/1024205424336293888

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost
Iran is bad you guys, think of the children.

https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1023660890179203075

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
black mirror: What if people made food only in order to look good on social media? Simply horrifying.

2018: yo its your boy bibi netenyahu comin' at ya with this hot english language fable of fatameh's quintessential persian misery. if you like this content smash on that like button and retweet peace *dabs*

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
Fatehmeh... that's a hell of an act!! What do you call it?

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

This is unconfirmed, but the regime may have launched an attack on northern Latakia. Earlier Russia was saying a full assault on Idlib isn't realistic, presumably to placate Turkey, but whether this particular rumor ends up being true or not, I have a feeling the line of control near Latakia will at least be moving somewhat in the regime's favor due to the continued UAV attacks on Russia's base in Tartus.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ovFgP0o0E

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
oh my god I remembered where I heard this cadence before. I'm dying.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/AlexEmmons/status/1024613136274477057?s=19

These royals are so stupid.

What a clusterfuck this would have been.

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Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
https://twitter.com/AlexKhrebet/status/1024621823143694338

With this I guess the major military ops in the south have basically come to a close.

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