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get that OUT of my face posted:huh, i guess they do want to waste time and resources into two unwinnable races. it's our funeral I don't think it necessarily would take away resources, since it's a volunteer-member organization and people only really do what they want to do anyway. My concern is more that I don't think many people are all that excited about it, and therefore it'll be a wet fart of a campaign, which could be a bit of a reputation hit. That said, I'm not even all that worried about that, since we'll have a bunch of victories nationally at the same time we'd have this loss, so we'll probably still come out ahead with more publicity and another membership surge. Plus, I mean, we're a big, decentralized national organization. We need to be resilient through sloppy or weak endorsements or we don't stand much long-term chance. If it's not NYC, some other chapter is making an imperfect endorsement. I think St Louis just had one they actually had to rescind, if that tells you anything, and they're still standing.
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unbutthurtable posted:I don't think it necessarily would take away resources, since it's a volunteer-member organization and people only really do what they want to do anyway. My concern is more that I don't think many people are all that excited about it, and therefore it'll be a wet fart of a campaign, which could be a bit of a reputation hit. That said, I'm not even all that worried about that, since we'll have a bunch of victories nationally at the same time we'd have this loss, so we'll probably still come out ahead with more publicity and another membership surge. 
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get that OUT of my face posted:the entire reason why my friend/your Queens comrade abstained was because of the boost to Salazar, even though she didn't go full yes because of Nixon and Williams as candidates. but you didn't hear it from me Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about. That's not terrible reason, honestly, but I will say that I think a lot of people have a right to be annoyed give the way the delegate votes didn't adhere to the branch votes in some branches. I'm curious to see how it plays out. Have you been involved with the Salazar campaign? I think I saw there was a recent campaign mention of sex work decriminalization, possibly including a canvass, which is a pretty huge leftward shift of ~*the discourse*~ and really heartening to see.
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unbutthurtable posted:I think a lot of people have a right to be annoyed give the way the delegate votes didn't adhere to the branch votes in some branches.
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hot sorcery posted:do you have a link to a breakdown of the votes? i am struggling to find it. I haven't confirmed this anywhere but i saw it on the tweet machine https://twitter.com/DSANorthStar/status/1022832730889805824
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ftr i think endorsing was incredibly stupid, obviously
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GalacticAcid posted:ftr i think endorsing was incredibly stupid, obviously oh so endorsing would be much like your posting?
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GalacticAcid posted:I haven't confirmed this anywhere but i saw it on the tweet machine oh i am meaning the clc reps! i am one of the people who is very not cool w/ the idea that none of my reps voted no. i want to confirm this first, though!
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unbutthurtable posted:oh so endorsing would be much like your posting?  hot sorcery posted:oh i am meaning the clc reps! i am one of the people who is very not cool w/ the idea that none of my reps voted no. i want to confirm this first, though! oh yea i have no idea
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unbutthurtable posted:Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about. That's not terrible reason, honestly, but I will say that I think a lot of people have a right to be annoyed give the way the delegate votes didn't adhere to the branch votes in some branches. I'm curious to see how it plays out.
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hot sorcery posted:oh i am meaning the clc reps! i am one of the people who is very not cool w/ the idea that none of my reps voted no. i want to confirm this first, though! I've been curious as well. I also understand now why the two dudes from Lower Manhattan stopped by to sit in on the BUM meeting, because holy poo poo they musta felt drained.
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get that OUT of my face posted:i went to one of her fundraisers and i'll do at least one canvassing thing for her, but i'll probably be more involved with Zellnor Myrie because he's closer are you going to the zellnor thing on wednesday at the comic book store?
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https://www.wgrz.com/article/money/business/8-weeks-paid-time-off-work-for-a-death-in-the-family/71-578781309quote:8 weeks paid time-off work for a death in the family? So wait is he actually signing this or not I'm guessing not
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wow an option to use vacation that I'm entitled to use for anything I feel like, for a specific thing! so generous!
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Rubber Tucky posted:are you going to the zellnor thing on wednesday at the comic book store? EugeneJ posted:https://www.wgrz.com/article/money/business/8-weeks-paid-time-off-work-for-a-death-in-the-family/71-578781309 get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 04:05 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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if klein loses, it'll be because the bronx parts of his district vote against him. that's certainly possible- there's a lot of overlap with crowley's bronx district, which voted for AOC in droves, and the ridiculously gerrymandered part of the western bronx was more recently brought in and isn't as loyal to him. i still say he's safer than people think, and certainly more than alcantara, hamilton, or peralta
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these new Cuomo/Nixon polls are so depressing. why is she not getting more traction? is it just the obvious advantages of incumbency, or are people actually buying the bullshit “experience” argument, or what?
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Barry Convex posted:these new Cuomo/Nixon polls are so depressing. why is she not getting more traction? is it just the obvious advantages of incumbency, or are people actually buying the bullshit “experience” argument, or what? because she's not a good candidate
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Barry Convex posted:these new Cuomo/Nixon polls are so depressing. why is she not getting more traction? is it just the obvious advantages of incumbency, or are people actually buying the bullshit “experience” argument, or what? because no one in this racist state is willing to vote for the black woman smdh wait, I mixed up my joke, I thought cuomo was behind in that whoops lol
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Barry Convex posted:these new Cuomo/Nixon polls are so depressing. why is she not getting more traction? is it just the obvious advantages of incumbency, or are people actually buying the bullshit “experience” argument, or what? Cuomo's approval ratings have been pretty decent. Polls consistently show him with a positive spread, and he's the sitting governor, which has advantages all its own. Plus, the experience argument is an argument...Nixon's been active in advocacy, but she's never held public office before, and more people know her as an actress than as an activist. Plus, while Nixon has the support of a bunch of groups like the DSA, Indivisible, and the Working Families Party, most of the New York Democratic establishment, the national party, the big advocacy groups and the unions have lined up in front of Cuomo. Clinton endorsed him. So did Tom Perez and Joe Biden. CSEA endorsed him, which they never did before. So did SEIU and the New York AFL-CIO. NOW endorsed him, the HRC endorsed him. So, however you feel about Nixon, she's up against pretty high obstacles. What I find more interesting in a lot of ways is the polling for the AG and Lieutenant Governor's races, where about half are "Undecided". In a lot of ways, those are the races to watch.
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Epicurius posted:What I find more interesting in a lot of ways is the polling for the AG and Lieutenant Governor's races, where about half are "Undecided". In a lot of ways, those are the races to watch. Assuming Cuomo wins in November, if the feds/AG/whatever subsequently manage to tie him to something and he has to step down, the LG takes over, right? Edit: speaking of which: https://twitter.com/JonCampbellGAN/status/1024332699320967169 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Assuming Cuomo wins in November, if the feds/AG/whatever subsequently manage to tie him to something and he has to step down, the LG takes over, right? If the Governor resigns or is otherwise removed, the LG becomes Governor. That's what happened not so long ago with Spitzer and Patterson. And yes, that was an extremely awkward pivot there from questions about his donors to the PSC findings on Charter. Epicurius has issued a correction as of 05:12 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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Epicurius posted:If the Governor resigns or is otherwise removed, the LG becomes Governor. That's what happened not so long ago with Spitzer and Patterson. He's done it before in the past couple of weeks, too, in regards to a different question. This was before the PSC findings were published.
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I would have loved to have this when I was canvassing for Medicare for All a couple of months ago https://twitter.com/clewisreports/status/1024709049043091457
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also, no mention of the fact that the Queens branch voted No on an endorsement despite profiling susan kang extensively lol the failing new yorker
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GalacticAcid posted:also, no mention of the fact that the Queens branch voted No on an endorsement despite profiling susan kang extensively lol god this is fuckin bad and SO BORING
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GalacticAcid posted:https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1025106496915468288 I mean, it doesn't portray it as a slam dunk (which I'm an expert in by the way). I don't agree with the endorsement, but if it says it was after a long and heated (lol) debate, that's fair.
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I guess but I dislike how it jumps from quoting her on her advocacy for an endorsement, then jumps to quoting a “more skeptical faction based in North Brooklyn,” when in reality her own loving borough voted no. Just seems to elide the reality, imo
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GalacticAcid posted:I guess but I dislike how it jumps from quoting her on her advocacy for an endorsement, then jumps to quoting a “more skeptical faction based in North Brooklyn,” when in reality her own loving borough voted no. Just seems to elide the reality, imo Honestly and annoyingly, I doubt the reporter gives a poo poo about the details. We can't expect them to get the specifics right. They really never will and we'll have to get used to it or we'll just always be mad
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GalacticAcid posted:I guess but I dislike how it jumps from quoting her on her advocacy for an endorsement, then jumps to quoting a “more skeptical faction based in North Brooklyn,” when in reality her own loving borough voted no. Just seems to elide the reality, imo Well also the article is only loving barely about the headline! Like, what a weird lede for the content
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unbutthurtable posted:Honestly and annoyingly, I doubt the reporter gives a poo poo about the details. We can't expect them to get the specifics right. They really never will and we'll have to get used to it or we'll just always be mad i am the proud OP of the Failing New York Times thread, my capacity to be mad at journalists will never flag
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