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A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Milotic posted:

I (29m) have trouble showing my daughter, (11F) affection.


Oh ok that’s bad but not unfixable



Wow. Wow. Wow wee wow.

why let a little thing like having a child stop you from being childfree

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

Adar posted:

I've always known wokeness that is so woke it wraps around the other side is a thing, but this particular angle somehow never clicked as possible

Its really fun as a mixed heritage person. You should definitely look up the people who claim you arent allowed to eat food not from your culture as well

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Leon Einstein posted:

How do you not tell your kids you love them? Ugh, I feel sad for that daughter. I guess having kids in my 30s made it easier to parent than trying to be a parent while still having the mind of a child. I kiss my kids and tell them I love them like 50 times a day.

But isn’t it awkward?????

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
I'm (30M) getting too old and still single. I believe it's because I'm not attractive and am invisible and unforgettable because of it. What can I do about this?

quote:

First off, I have to make an embarrassing admission. I'm 30 years old and still single. I've had a few dates over the past few years and something that was almost a stable relationship for a short time, but for the large part I am just socially awkward and perpetually single.

Being awkward is one thing I can get past. I can fake it until I make it. But one problem that I can't really fix is just being average looking. I dress well, I go to the gym frequently, I get expensive and stylish haircuts, I run a lot, and am in good shape. But otherwise I am just as average looking as anyone could possibly be. I fall into the crowd and am just as easily forgettable.

It's hard not to notice how unnoticeable I am at times. I see supermodel looking guys getting random girls to talk to them at the gym. I see guys better looking than me able to get dates or pick up girls at bars. I get overlooked at meetups that I attend. I'm more or less transparent and invisible in situations like that. It's really discouraging and just kind of spirals me out of control.

I do have a degree of self-confidence. I know I'm good at my day job, I love my hobbies, I have a good time with friends, stuff like that. I know I have value and I'd like to think I'm an interesting person.

But the problem is that the Tindr-ification of society has made it feel like I have a significantly lesser degree of value because I can't compete in terms of looks. In a modern age where people get swiped or ignored because they're not the top 1% in terms of attractiveness, I just always continue to be ignored as invisible.

TL;DR What can I do about this? It's really driving me crazy to be this old and still single, especially given that I don't possess the admission ticket of the degree of attractiveness that most women are looking for.

A lot of people feel bad for the 99% of the human race that's undateable, but think about how much breeding those poor 1%ers have to do to support the rest of us. A bunch of supermodel baby factories desperately trying to grow the billions of virgins cursed to remain forever alone on this planet

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Leon Einstein posted:

How do you not tell your kids you love them? Ugh, I feel sad for that daughter. I guess having kids in my 30s made it easier to parent than trying to be a parent while still having the mind of a child. I kiss my kids and tell them I love them like 50 times a day.

toxic masculinity and boys being trained to be inarticulate about their feelings lest they be girly

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
Tom Brady open mouth kisses his son, and he's the very definition of masculinity.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Straight White Shark posted:

I'm (30M) getting too old and still single. I believe it's because I'm not attractive and am invisible and unforgettable because of it. What can I do about this?


A lot of people feel bad for the 99% of the human race that's undateable, but think about how much breeding those poor 1%ers have to do to support the rest of us. A bunch of supermodel baby factories desperately trying to grow the billions of virgins cursed to remain forever alone on this planet

I'm not in the top 1% of most attractive people yet I have a constant overflow of tinder matches because I got a good haircut and took some pictures where I was smiling and wearing a nice suit

I wonder if he has tried this or if he's still got the washed out picture wearing cargo shorts and sunglasses and holding a fish

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Straight White Shark posted:

I'm (30M) getting too old and still single. I believe it's because I'm not attractive and am invisible and unforgettable because of it. What can I do about this?

Eat less and go to the goddamn gym

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Sagebrush posted:

I'm not in the top 1% of most attractive people yet I have a constant overflow of tinder matches because I got a good haircut and took some pictures where I was smiling and wearing a nice suit

I wonder if he has tried this or if he's still got the washed out picture wearing cargo shorts and sunglasses and holding a fish

I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that he has really done nothing to attempt to be more attractive to the opposite sex (or same sex :shrug:) and just wants to bitch about it while he hugs his wafu pillow or some poo poo.

For the vast majority of us dating takes work and that poo poo doesn't just fall into your lap.

Also he probably has poo poo personality.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
goddammit you guys

quote:

I dress well, I go to the gym frequently, I get expensive and stylish haircuts, I run a lot, and am in good shape.

Willing to bet it's his awkwardness

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Fallen Rib

Straight White Shark posted:

I'm (30M) getting too old and still single. I believe it's because I'm not attractive and am invisible and unforgettable because of it. What can I do about this?



Get a dog, people say hi to me whenever I take him for a walk and I look like a person that posts on this website.

If that doesn't work, then get a cat.

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

Straight White Shark posted:

I'm (30M) getting too old and still single. I believe it's because I'm not attractive and am invisible and unforgettable because of it. What can I do about this?


Wait, so what's so embarrassing here? He says he's dated on and off until recently, even had a relationship. Does he think he's the only person who happens to be single while the age of 30?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

^^^ yeah really imo he's just depressed

I mean maybe he's right and he is just an uggo with a face like the hunchback of notre dame

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Straight White Shark posted:

I'm (30M) getting too old and still single. I believe it's because I'm not attractive and am invisible and unforgettable because of it. What can I do about this?


A lot of people feel bad for the 99% of the human race that's undateable, but think about how much breeding those poor 1%ers have to do to support the rest of us. A bunch of supermodel baby factories desperately trying to grow the billions of virgins cursed to remain forever alone on this planet

This man is depressed. Not a very interesting story.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

MarcusSA posted:

I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that he has really done nothing to attempt to be more attractive to the opposite sex (or same sex :shrug:) and just wants to bitch about it while he hugs his wafu pillow or some poo poo.

For the vast majority of us dating takes work and that poo poo doesn't just fall into your lap.

Also he probably has poo poo personality.

yeah "i'm not attractive enough" is just a dodge to avoid responsibility by placing the blame for your problem on something outside of your control. "i have bad genetics and an ugly face" is just a hop and a skip from "these loving shallow bitches need to get past my looks :argh:" which is all easier to accept than "i am a creep and my social skills are bad"

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Sorry I meant to say "What a depressed peiece of poo poo. Anyone whos ever been around a depressed person knows that theyre completely worthless and just drag everyone else down :murder: but to yourself, :sever: from this mortal coil"

I Was The Fury
Oct 19, 2012

Always stop to smell the flowers, just in case they're weeds

Meme Emulator posted:

Sorry I meant to say "What a depressed peiece of poo poo. Anyone whos ever been around a depressed person knows that theyre completely worthless and just drag everyone else down :murder: but to yourself, :sever: from this mortal coil"

Settle down Pick

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Meme Emulator posted:

This man is depressed. Not a very interesting story.

if you took out the part where he decided that his root problem is that all women are shallow bitches you'd be right

pity not the poor incel

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.
Speaking of, did the incel thread get closed/gassed again? Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

man gently caress ugly people, loving creeps

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Milotic posted:

I (29m) have trouble showing my daughter, (11F) affection.


Oh ok that’s bad but not unfixable



Wow. Wow. Wow wee wow.

What is this dude's problem. Oh my god. Good chance his daughter already knows he doesn't love her at all, too. Nice job loving that up rear end in a top hat.

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

The mystery scene where all the suspects gather round and the detective reveals the killer

Last night my[24M] gf[23F] of 1.5 years accused me of cheating, in front of my siblings, after she found a pair of panties at our place that turned out to belong to my sister[22F] - what now?

quote:

I know what the title sounds like but trust me, nothing weird is going on here. Just a lot of ... crazy

Last night, my gf and I were visiting my sister. All of my siblings (I have a younger brother that is 19 years old) live in the same town as me so we see each other quite often. Last night we decided to hang around my sister's new place that she shares with her bf and have dinner that went lovely. I am pretty close with my siblings and I enjoy any moment I have with them.

After dinner, we retreated to the living room, having some drinks. It's me, my gf, my brother, his gf, my sister and her bf. We were talking about a mutual friend of ours that recently cheated on his gf. We were going back and forth and I voiced my displeasure over the issue. I said something along the lines of how much I dislike cheaters and what an rear end in a top hat my friend was for doing this to his gf.

Suddenly, my gf stands up, walks over to her purse, pulls out a pair of panties, throws them in my face and says "You hate cheaters, huh? Well then explain this". She says that she found them at our place a few days ago and they are certainly not hers. She then demanded I tell her whose panties are these and goes on a bit of rant about how much of a hypocrite I am and then she goes quiet, obviously waiting for a response from me.

I am in total shock at that moment, just like everyone else in the room. I struggle to form a coherent sentence and before I could say even a word, my sister says that they are hers. You see, maybe two days ago, my sister said that she will drop by to visit me, which I later found out was just a ploy for her to come and do her laundry at my place since her washing machine was broken.

She does her thing, gets all of her clothes and was on her way out. But as it turned out, she forgot this pair of panties and she apologised for the inconvenience. Her bf confirmed that it is indeed her panties because he bought them as a present for my sister.

It was back to awkward silence after that, with my gf just standing there, looking like an idiot. My brother and his gf said that they are going home and we soon followed them. The ride back home was really quiet and I still couldn't wrap my head around what the gently caress just happened. I was occasionally glancing over towards my gf, but she was just starting out the window and saying nothing. We went to bed, with my gf sleeping in the guest room (her choice).

It's been a very quiet morning today with my gf saying absolutely nothing to me. And to be honest, I don't know what she could say to me in order to justify what happened last night. It just so bizarre and so crazy that I still can't believe it happened. She made a fool out of herself and embarrassed me in front of my family.

And the most annoying part is that this all could have been avoided if she only came to me and said: "Look, I found this in our place, do you know where it came from?" I wouldn't have been sure they are my sister's but I would have probably guessed they were hers because of what happened two days ago. So I guess my question here is, should I talk to my gf about what happened or let her come to me first since obviously, we can't go about our day without addressing this? Or at least, I can't.

tl;dr Last night, my gf accused me of cheating, in front of my siblings, after she found a pair of panties at our place that turned out to belong to my sister who had forgotten them there after she did her laundry at my place two days ago. She hasn't said a single word to me since last night and now I don't know what to do. Should I approach her or do I let her come to me herself?

FAGGY CLAUSE
Apr 9, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
My face absolutely aches for my sister's panties

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Straight White Shark posted:

if you took out the part where he decided that his root problem is that all women are shallow bitches you'd be right

pity not the poor incel

Did he really? He just said "Im not good enough, you have to be amazingly attractive or else youre ignored", that kind of all or nothing thinking is pretty common with the depressed and at no point did he blame anyone for it aside from himself for not being good enough. Internalizing everything and considering everything wrong with the world, thats another depressed trait.

I mean, sure, maybe in another 5 years if he keeps down this path his posts will say "Im not attractive enough which is all the fault of all the sluts hopping on Chads" but hes not saying that yet, so im not gonna act like hes some kind of irredeemable incel.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Feeling or expressing frustration with internet dating is now Incel, the goon has spoken *slams gavel*

Gf (36) wants me (38) to pay for her college debt of $80,000. Says if I don't, our relationship is over. Should I just leave? I currently pay all the rent, utilities, food, cell phones, travel and entertainment. It didn't start this way.

quote:

When I moved in with my gf, she had just graduated with a masters in accounting and was working as a public accountant. I moved in after being with her for 2 weeks. At the time, I was coming out of a divorce and I was afraid of being alone. That's why I rushed in...

Before I moved in she told me about her $80,000 in debt. She was making $60,000 a year. I stepped up and said I would pay the rent and utilities so that she would have the extra money to pay her debt down.

Its 30 months later now. She quit her job 10 months ago because she didn't like the work load or the people she worked for. She wanted to get a CPA to make more money, she said, and she wanted to quit so that she could have time study for the exam. I supported her decision.

Then she did not study very hard, took one part, failed and decided to get a new job. She interviewed a few times. Then she decided to stop looking for work. Just told me one day... she doesn't want to work.

Now I'm told, as a man - I need to take care of all the money things. Her college debts are my problem now. She refuses to work, she might try to make some money sewing. She says I need to support her. She tells me it's only $1,000 a month more and that I don't know how to spend my money and that she should manage my cash flow.

She says her loan problem is a man's problem. I just need to make more money.

I'm feeling used - boundaries violated...

I think I should leave?

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Meme Emulator posted:

I mean, sure, maybe in another 5 years if he keeps down this path his posts will say "Im not attractive enough which is all the fault of all the sluts hopping on Chads" but hes not saying that yet, so im not gonna act like hes some kind of irredeemable incel.

he's blaming 'tinderification' which is a low key condemnation of 'hookup culture', another stupid idea - young people like having casual sex? bwaaaa???

meanwhile like always many young people are not participating in casual hookups to any large degree, because it turns out mindless quasinonymous sex kind of sucks. it's the same kind of complaints olds had about young women flappers a hundred years ago. it's way easier to find hookups these days but that doesn't mean it's moved the needle significantly on how many young people participate in this kind of very casual dating compared to like, okcupid, which is still for people who want at least a short term relationship with the potential to develop. monogamy is still very popular despite how many loud people there are on the internet

pointing at a superficial platform to say that culture itself has become superficial regarding sexual connections is just blame shifting away. there's usually a strong undercurrent here of men complaining they can't effortlessly find very attractive women to just fall on their dick. turns out you have to put work into yourself to be attractive to a partner and also refocus your standards to be more realistic instead of holding out for porn stars and instagram fitness models

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Meme Emulator posted:

Did he really? He just said "Im not good enough, you have to be amazingly attractive or else youre ignored", that kind of all or nothing thinking is pretty common with the depressed and at no point did he blame anyone for it aside from himself for not being good enough. Internalizing everything and considering everything wrong with the world, thats another depressed trait.

I mean, sure, maybe in another 5 years if he keeps down this path his posts will say "Im not attractive enough which is all the fault of all the sluts hopping on Chads" but hes not saying that yet, so im not gonna act like hes some kind of irredeemable incel.

"I can't get laid, but 99% of the guys I see can, so I must be worthless" - depression
"I can't get laid, but only 1% of guys can anyhow, so I have no chance despite being average" - still depression, but also deep-seated misogyny

FAGGY CLAUSE
Apr 9, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
She could only hack it for 20 months? Graduated in her 30s? Typically companies will pay for your CPA, and studying for it goes toward your cpe requirements, so quitting to focus on it makes no sense. Obvious lazy person sever

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Feeling or expressing frustration with internet dating is now Incel, the goon has spoken *slams gavel*

Gf (36) wants me (38) to pay for her college debt of $80,000. Says if I don't, our relationship is over. Should I just leave? I currently pay all the rent, utilities, food, cell phones, travel and entertainment. It didn't start this way.

That weight you're feeling is the yoke she's fitting you with OP. You'll get used to it.

Anne Whateley posted:

goddammit you guys

Reading is for chumps

Ouhei
Oct 23, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Feeling or expressing frustration with internet dating is now Incel, the goon has spoken *slams gavel*

Gf (36) wants me (38) to pay for her college debt of $80,000. Says if I don't, our relationship is over. Should I just leave? I currently pay all the rent, utilities, food, cell phones, travel and entertainment. It didn't start this way.

How is this a question at all? Of course you leave you loving moron.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

tactlessbastard posted:

That weight you're feeling is the yoke she's fitting you with OP. You'll get used to it.


Reading is for chumps

I only read the bolded parts.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Ouhei posted:

How is this a question at all? Of course you leave you loving moron.

She is very physically attractive, but like, 65-70k in student loan attractive

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

MarcusSA posted:

I only read the bolded parts.

I was just gently caressing around. What ever habits work with your lifestyle, friend. That's how my mom raised me.

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Anyone else remember the 2015ish E/N thread where a 31yo STEMlord pimped out his 18yo camgirl LDR girlfriend, which progressed to sticking her behind glory holes at porn stores when she would visit him in person, then filming her taking a golden shower from him and posting that clip on her Fetlife profile, etc.?

That had to be fake, right? I mean, how could a woman grow up so deprived of affection she’d be so desperate as to seek it on her hands and knees from a daddy-figure with a full bladder? There’s no way someone would be so broken...

Milotic posted:

I (29m) have trouble showing my daughter, (11F) affection.

Oh ok that’s bad but not unfixable

quote:

hdhsjjd • 34m
I haven’t told her that I loved her. It would be really awkward
Wow. Wow. Wow wee wow.
...never mind, question withdrawn


Also, gently caress “go NC with your teenaged daughter” wife from earlier today. Goddamn, this thread can be depressing.


Edit:

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Gf (36) wants me (38) to pay for her college debt of $80,000. Says if I don't, our relationship is over. Should I just leave? I currently pay all the rent, utilities, food, cell phones, travel and entertainment. It didn't start this way.
Lady is this close to getting three of a kind to fold to her jack high

Admiralty Flag fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Aug 1, 2018

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



My boyfriend just dumped me and I’m pregnant with his baby

quote:

I [29F] am currently 7 weeks pregnant and yesterday my boyfriend [28M] said he doesn’t love me so we should break up, and doesn’t care what I do about the baby. Obviously I am devastated but I’m seriously conflicted about whether to keep the baby or not.

Background: we have been together about 6 months on and off. We’ve broken up a few times for various reasons (he’s scared and not ready for a relationship, I don’t communicate/open up to him, he doesn’t think he can make me happy) but he usually comes back and apologizes and asks for another chance. He’s never had a normal relationship and is in recovery from drugs/alcohol (2 years clean). He’s told me I’m the first girl he can see a real future with, with marriage and kids. He has said he doesn’t want to lose me, wants to be around me all the time, and to be patient with him and his struggles. I myself am very stable, college degree, a good government job and no major issues in my life. Well, loving him is my issue I guess.

Initially I was hesitant to have this baby because of our unstable relationship and just not being ready, and there’s always a possibility he will relapse. But he really wanted me to have the baby and he was so excited to be a dad. I warmed up to the idea after we saw a couples counselor about the issue and he said he wanted to be a family (he suggested we continue couples counseling). We even looked at houses for sale in his home state where we planned to move after the baby was born. He regularly expressed how happy he was and thought the situation was so meant to be. He bought me a beautiful ring that I loved ( not an engagement ring ) I guess as a symbol of his commitment to me - i dont know.

Anyway last week he lost his job after an argument with a co-worker and since then has been so stressed about not being able to provide that he gets sick. His lease is up next month so I got approved for an apartment for us so he wouldn’t have to worry about where he’s going to live, and he insisted we should move in together now. Well poo poo fell apart 2 days ago when he told me he was so scared about everything and the fact that he doesn’t feel a connection with me at times. I was blindsided because he was so certain we would be together and we have always had such a passionate relationship with crazy chemistry. He said he was not breaking up with me, but wanted me to talk to him more. The next day he was a bit colder about the topic and said he was waiting for something that might never happen (being in love?). I told him how upset I was about this and asked him why he suddenly felt this way. He said he’s felt this way for months! Next day, I called him and said I stayed home from work because of my anxiety about all of this. He then told me we should probably break up since he just isn’t in love with me, he should feel in love by now and doesn’t think he’s ever been in love with anyone at all. I asked him WHY did you beg me for more chances, made promises to stop hurting me and to be the man I deserve, and always tell me how much I mean to him and how perfect I am. He said he doesn’t know, that perhaps he was trying to convince himself he loved me. I told him that I loved him despite everything that has happened and all of his issues, and he said nothing. So I told him I didn’t want to have a child with someone who doesn’t love me. He said ok, and that he’ll likely move home out of state regardless of what I choose to do about the baby. I’ve heard nothing from him since then.

So, not only am I heartbroken and feeling betrayed, I’m facing the traumatic decision of whether to be a single mother or to terminate the pregnancy and move on with my life. In southern CA, I cannot afford rent, daycare and other bills on my own. I’m going to assume he will not be around or be a stable co-parent sharing any expenses with me. And I believe he will be an absent or unstable presence in the child’s life, disappearing and then coming back. Having daddy issues later in life is no bueno. If I got child support it wouldn’t be much. I only have my parents here and they are older with various health problems so I don’t want to rely on them for help. Any advice would be appreciated.

*TL;DR; * : my boyfriend wanted to be a family with me and our baby and then suddenly dumped me and plans to move away. I don’t know what to do now.

Edit: I think I should mention that I haven’t been able to eat or sleep so I don’t know what effect that might have on the baby. And my dilemma is more of a moral one since I would be terminating an innocent life. Who knows if I’ll meet anyone later and have kids the right way?

Edit #2: I have seen a few crisis counselors about this in the last 3 weeks, and none have really been able to give me brutally honest opinions on the situation. My parents are aware of the situation and will support whatever I choose, but they are conservative and want me to move back in and help with the baby. Again, I really don’t want to rely too much on anyone because this is MY mistake and I don’t want to burden anyone financially or otherwise.

Stop having sex with unstable losers you’ve only been dating for a short time, ladies. :sigh:

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

LadyPictureShow posted:

My boyfriend just dumped me and I’m pregnant with his baby


Stop having sex with unstable losers you’ve only been dating for a short time, ladies. :sigh:

:siren: GET AN ABORTION :siren:

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

burial posted:

Speaking of, did the incel thread get closed/gassed again? Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

Jon Pop showed up and killed it.

Eigo
Mar 21, 2010

FAGGY CLAUSE posted:

She could only hack it for 20 months? Graduated in her 30s? Typically companies will pay for your CPA, and studying for it goes toward your cpe requirements, so quitting to focus on it makes no sense. Obvious lazy person sever

Depending on the accounting firm, that could be 70 plus hour weeks during one or two busy seasons a year for three months at a time.

But yeah, almost every firm happily pays for CPA programs and the rest of the year is typical hours. Also the exam is four sections and every section is a 40 to 50 perecnt pass rate on average so giving up after one try when she didn't work during the study phase is pretty great.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Milotic posted:

I (29m) have trouble showing my daughter, (11F) affection.


Oh ok that’s bad but not unfixable



Wow. Wow. Wow wee wow.

My oldest is 2.5 and holy poo poo how dead inside do you have to be to voluntarily sit out all of that magic limitless affection

Every night at bedtime I read to her while she lays in my lap and periodically says "hugs!" and then demands a hug and she is 100% not going to want that at all when she's 11. And this dude wanted nothing to do with that wonderful, fleeting time. Jesus.

TheScott2K fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 1, 2018

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Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Alan_Shore posted:

Someone please explain Jordan Peterson to me. Is he a dick? Genius? Sometimes ok? Had some good ideas? What's all the fuss?

I was super-depressed and binged a bunch of his stuff, which hosed up my thoughts for a few months. I was a big fan of his, listening to several hours of his school lectures and poo poo a day. Mostly he’s, at best, an unwitting ally of the alt-right due to many of the things he lends a scientific air of authority to. At worst, he’s maliciously aiding the rise of fascism in the US.

His series on the psychological underpinnings of the Old Testament and stuff are probably the most valuable thing he’s done. He’s a practicing psychologist and a psychology professor, but he’s a proponent of Jungian thought. Jungian stuff is still ok in psychology, but it is definitely very rare to find someone that takes that tack in clinical treatment these days. Jung, Freud, Nietzsche, Campbell and more are his strongest suit, and when he’s talking about philosophy, the meaning of stories and symbols, etc, I think he’s actually got some interesting things to say.

Here’s an interesting breakdown of why his analysis of Nazis and their motivations is flawed, and why it’s harmful.
https://youtu.be/b8AcmzqFdPM

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