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really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

anime was right posted:

st bernard sanders



Matt Zerella posted:

hold up, you think the guy who fucks the flag on stage is going to attack Harris on being a cop?

the dude doesnt care about being a hypocrite or attacking sacred cows, he just attacks known weaknesses and his base eats it up while demoralizing the dem base. its good politics.

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
fair enough, that'll be fun to watch since I wouldn't be voting for her anyway

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Matt Zerella posted:

fair enough, that'll be fun to watch since I wouldn't be voting for her anyway

I'm flipping a coin between the Catholic party and the Marxist Lenninists in that situation.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Agean90 posted:

yes,from California and is therefore SOFT ON CRIME MAGA

the only thing you need to know about conservative political philosophy in 2018 is:

1. Does it trigger the libs?
2. MAGA

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




follow me on twitter folks

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Al! posted:

the only thing you need to know about conservative political philosophy in 2018 is:

1. Does it trigger the libs?
2. MAGA

https://twitter.com/realTomBloke/status/1025000875880787968

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Matt Zerella posted:

hold up, you think the guy who fucks the flag on stage is going to attack Harris on being a cop?

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

Lots of people talking about how Krooked Kamala locked up many POCs while a pig. Very sad!

he would do it and it would work.

nah
Mar 16, 2009

trump could get an arena full of chudlets hooting at an opponent for being anti-abortion if he wanted

alsothere
Oct 14, 2014
Taco Defender

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

Lots of people talking about how Krooked Kamala locked up many POCs while a pig. Very sad!

this seems accurate but i don't think he'd refer to a cop as a pig

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i mean he started off his campaign by calling American POWs coward bitches

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Matt Zerella posted:

hold up, you think the guy who fucks the flag on stage is going to attack Harris on being a cop?

Did you not see him demolish Clinton for her corruption while saying he was perfect. This is trumps wheelhouse

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


he would poo poo all over her for the disproportionate sentencing/incarceration/conviction of minorities that happened on her watch and call her a jail master or slave catcher or something.

His supporters are happy because he is owning a lib and the Dems’ turnout suffers because he’s not wrong.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i mean he started off his campaign by calling American POWs coward bitches

when his poll numbers went up after that was the moment my brain broke and I accepted the new hellworld we lived in.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


really queer Christmas posted:

when his poll numbers went up after that was the moment my brain broke and I accepted the new hellworld we lived in.

yeah i remember watching that and going "haha well trump was fun but lets see who rises next"

welp

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


really queer Christmas posted:

who was the one that argued gillibrand would be ok? i offer now as the time to make that argument again

I think she's the least bad of the bad dems (unless you count Warren in that group, then it's her) running in 2020. I don't like her but from that whole bunch I think she has the best chances at actually winning the primary. pretty much this:

docbeard posted:

Basically the way Gillibrand distinguishes herself is by having slightly better political instincts than the rest of the succ crowd, which is by way of saying that she's capable of pretending to be progressive for minutes at a time without accidentally screaming about being a cop or voting against a symbolic non-binding drug importation measure because you love your pharma donations that much.

She probably reaches the lofty heights of "least worst of the not actually good candidates",

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

docbeard posted:

I've more or less given up on foreign policy stances. I have yet to find anyone who's more likely to get elected to public office than, say, me, who isn't absolute garbage in that area.

Unfortunately outside of real structural changes to the political system and some real work domestically to change peoples minds there isn't much we can do on that front at the moment. The best we can do is make sure whoever candidate we back doesn't want to invade Iran or start a nuclear war with Russia / North Korea.

We should still push them to be better on that though.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


When Trump attacked veterans is when I realized that would probably win the primary. He understands which issues his base actually cares about and which are just a weapon to bludgeon the libs.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

got any sevens posted:

chelsea manning as first woman prez would own

i meant chelsea clinton

alsothere
Oct 14, 2014
Taco Defender
i'm trying to imagine what trump would say about bernie if he won the nomination. would call him a hypocrite for owning more than one house and an expensive jacket, would he go full red scare, or would he just struggle coming up with anything big enough to smear him with?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i think he'd probably go with the Crazy Wacky Old Socialist angle he already uses tbh.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
it wouldn’t matter because he’d be dead because bernie would kill him with words

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


alsothere posted:

i'm trying to imagine what trump would say about bernie if he won the nomination. would call him a hypocrite for owning more than one house and an expensive jacket, would he go full red scare, or would he just struggle coming up with anything big enough to smear him with?

Trump has two angles and will probably take both

1. he's a wacko who doesn't know what he's talking about, he's subscribing to a dead ideology that's failed repeatedly, he never accomplished anything does he really think he can start now
2. full-out white supremacism and racial fearmongering. talk about refugees and say that sanders wants to throw open borders and let in millions of people who will displace you from your homes etc. "his policies are just the beginning"

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i think he'd probably go with the Crazy Wacky Old Socialist angle he already uses tbh.

yeah but that is bernie's brand so good luck
:bernin:

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
If any current member of the Senate other than Bernie or Warren wins the norm I'm just gonna vote third party in 2020. Not sure what the comparable list would be for members of the house or governors.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

alsothere posted:

i'm trying to imagine what trump would say about bernie if he won the nomination. would call him a hypocrite for owning more than one house and an expensive jacket, would he go full red scare, or would he just struggle coming up with anything big enough to smear him with?

Probably both Bernie's a socialist and he owns more then one home.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



biden is going to run and gillibrand and harris and booker are all going to be also-rans compared to him

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


yeah as of now it seems like the race is going to be biden vs bernie primarily.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
obama is certianly clearing the way for biden the same way he did for hilldawg

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yeah as of now it seems like the race is going to be biden vs bernie primarily.

Depends if #MeToo is a strong enough force to cause Creepy Uncle Joe major issues or not

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

SKULL.GIF posted:

Trump has two angles and will probably take both

1. he's a wacko who doesn't know what he's talking about, he's subscribing to a dead ideology that's failed repeatedly, he never accomplished anything does he really think he can start now
2. full-out white supremacism and racial fearmongering. talk about refugees and say that sanders wants to throw open borders and let in millions of people who will displace you from your homes etc. "his policies are just the beginning"

Trump is a sociopath who is actually pretty naturally talented at picking good attack angles when his head is together


Which is why you must constantly imply that he is stupid and needs others to make decisions for him, to keep him sputtering on his back foot

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

WampaLord posted:

Depends if #MeToo is a strong enough force to cause Creepy Uncle Joe major issues or not

people say this but the thing is most of his victims are still well underage so they won't have the opportunity to speak out

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

WampaLord posted:

Depends if #MeToo is a strong enough force to cause Creepy Uncle Joe major issues or not

he's just going to handwave it away as being "folksy". attack him for being the lapdog of capital and racism

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


“Handsy Joe” Biden.

e:^ do both.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Raskolnikov38 posted:

he's just going to handwave it away as being "folksy". attack him for being the lapdog of capital and racism

"Joe Biden is the reason you will he paying off student loans for the rest of your life" is super effective imo

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


WampaLord posted:

Depends if #MeToo is a strong enough force to cause Creepy Uncle Joe major issues or not

lol bill clinton being a rapist didnt put a dent in the clintons

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Al! posted:

obama is certianly clearing the way for biden the same way he did for hilldawg

it wasnt obama clearing the way for Hillary lol

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
yeah biden is a creeper but those photos of him are going to go nowhere

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Agean90 posted:

"Joe Biden is the reason you will he paying off student loans for the rest of your life" is super effective imo

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


I always forget he did that.

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mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
Gillibrand would absolutely go after Biden on all his creepiness, Warren would hit him on student loans. It's going to be a really fun primary

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