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mastershakeman posted:Gillibrand would absolutely go after Biden on all his creepiness, Warren would hit him on student loans. It's going to be a really fun primary all the centrists are going to be fighting over the same voters and backbiting each other while bernie stands over all
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:lol bill clinton being a rapist didnt put a dent in the clintons we're now in a post-Weinstein world, much like we are in a post-escalator world rules are changing Sheng-Ji Yang posted:all the centrists are going to be fighting over the same voters and backbiting each other while bernie stands over all  this is the most likely scenario, every single person who voted for Bernie last time hasn't gone anywhere and a shitload more of people are gonna be Feeling the Bern by 2020
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:all the centrists are going to be fighting over the same voters and backbiting each other while bernie stands over all the primaries are a Who Can Pretend To Be The Most Left Competition, then immediately afterward they all go back to saying that progressive values are just unelectable
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Aug 2, 2018 19:44
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The Kingfish posted:he would poo poo all over her for the disproportionate sentencing/incarceration/conviction of minorities that happened on her watch and call her a jail master or slave catcher or something. and of course instead of trying to do better the Dems will just argue the point and make excuses
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Aug 2, 2018 19:45
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:all the centrists are going to be fighting over the same voters and backbiting each other while bernie stands over all That's the only path I see for Trump losing. Heck, it's how Trump made it through the beginning - Jeb, Marco, Cruz and Kasich all convinced they could stay in and be the establishment guy and beat Trump head up and refusing to quit
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Yinlock posted:the primaries are a Who Can Pretend To Be The Most Left Competition, then immediately afterward they all go back to saying that progressive values are just unelectable They'll attempt it, but they keep loving up when anyone with actual beliefs starts bringing up things outside their worldview. like say, student loan dismissal.
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Aug 2, 2018 19:46
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:lol bill clinton being a rapist didnt put a dent in the clintons It would today, though. Maybe. (Whether anyone will still a poo poo about #metoo by the time 2020 rolls around is another question entirely.) Also, while Biden is no slouch in the charm department, Bill's like a thousand times more charismatic than he is. On the other hand, Trump being, well, pick a thing, certainly hasn't stopped him, so I don't think we can rest easy. Sheng-Ji Yang posted:all the centrists are going to be fighting over the same voters and backbiting each other while bernie stands over all Bernie's got a solid combination of a unique (and uniquely resonant) message and the strongest crowd-working ability of anyone realistically on the field for the 2020 nomination. I won't accept anything as a dead cert at this point but he's in the best position he's ever going to be in.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:lol bill clinton being a rapist didnt put a dent in the clintons Being a rapist in the 90s was like a badge of honor for shitbags. Sexual harassment and worse was just a example of women just being too emotional. mastershakeman posted:Gillibrand would absolutely go after Biden on all his creepiness, Warren would hit him on student loans. It's going to be a really fun primary Yeah, I think that even if Obama is trying to 'clear the field' it's not going to work as well. Booker, Coumo, and Gillibrand already waited a cycle. Also Obama never had that instinct to screw fellow politicians over like the Clintons neceserry to ensure loyalty. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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The Kingfish posted:When Trump attacked veterans is when I realized that would probably win the primary. He understands which issues his base actually cares about and which are just a weapon to bludgeon the libs. i think it's more that he's just as stupid as the diehard R base and has 0 filter trump's election win had so many insane factors that had to align perfectly, if even one went wrong(like if hillary had any charisma whatsoever) he would've lost like he wanted to
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only way biden loses the primary is if there's a superflu that kills a bunch of boomers
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DCCC targets like a California Senate race between two Democrats and no one else. Get the gently caress out of here.
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mastershakeman posted:That's the only path I see for Trump losing. Heck, it's how Trump made it through the beginning - Jeb, Marco, Cruz and Kasich all convinced they could stay in and be the establishment guy and beat Trump head up and refusing to quit yeah it'll be easy to tell after the first few states how it's going to go. if they all stay in, Bernie wins pretty easily. i feel like the democrats have to know this though (lol) so they may pressure the weakest link to drop ASAP
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Al! posted:only way biden loses the primary is if there's a superflu that kills a bunch of boomers Or if he actually starts attempting to campaign, lol.
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Vox Nihili posted:Or if he actually starts attempting to campaign, lol. why would he need to campaign when obama will be doing it for him lmao
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nah posted:yeah it'll be easy to tell after the first few states how it's going to go. if they all stay in, Bernie wins pretty easily. i feel like the democrats have to know this though (lol) so they may pressure the weakest link to drop ASAP the dems likely think they're an absolute shoo-in and so are going for the foolproof strategy of punching left once again
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Al! posted:only way biden loses the primary is if there's a superflu that kills a bunch of boomers I don’t think Biden sweeps the South like HRC did. Maybe if he gets an Obama endorsement, but that probably won’t come except as a last-ditch effort to stop Bernie. e: he isn’t actually that cool or likable in real life.
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Al! posted:why would he need to campaign when obama will be doing it for him lmao yeah obama has been totally quiet on all the horrific poo poo going on during his presidency and this one, but you can bet your rear end he'll be on the front lines of the 2018 primaries to stop any kind of progressive this isn't sarcasm, that's how he rolls
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Sure, Biden sank like a stone the last 38 times he ran for president, but this time will be different. (This time actually might be different.)
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The Kingfish posted:I don’t think Biden sweeps the South like HRC did. Maybe if he gets an Obama endorsement, but that probably won’t come except as a last-ditch effort to stop Bernie. obama is already campaigning for him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgExhSpw64g
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The Kingfish posted:I don’t think Biden sweeps the South like HRC did. Maybe if he gets an Obama endorsement, but that probably won’t come except as a last-ditch effort to stop Bernie. they're absolutely going to ratfuck bernie again though, centrists do not learn from mistakes ever
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button your top button obama jesus christ you're like 50
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docbeard posted:Sure, Biden sank like a stone the last 38 times he ran for president, but this time will be different. The press will absolutely start running Biden gaffe stories again the second they can. They don't know how to cover campaigns in any other way.
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Yinlock posted:they're absolutely going to ratfuck bernie again though, centrists do not learn from mistakes ever oh without a doubt. ratfucking is the way inter-party politics works.
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I would absolutely support a "cheerleader" position for Biden, where he has no actual power but gets to dunk on the opposition on a regular bas- Biden for press secretary.
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i would absolutely support a "carnie" position for biden where he's kept greased up in a cage and is only let out to run around and bite the heads off of chickens biden for geek
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i mean he started off his campaign by calling American POWs coward bitches was he wrong e: iirc he was dunking on McCain by saying you can’t really be a war hero if you just got captured. My veteran father's response to this was, “Yeah, he’s pretty much right.” Zoran fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Aug 2, 2018 |
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Al! posted:i would absolutely support a "carnie" position for biden where he's kept greased up in a cage and is only let out to run around and bite the heads off of chickens ...also yes.
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The Kingfish posted:oh without a doubt. ratfucking is the way inter-party politics works. will or could bernie have any way of preventing this? given the fuckery in a place like new york where people had a bad habit of vanishing off the voter lists?
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Don't forget California primary is on super Tuesday in 2020 which is huge for Harris
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I can't wait for the 2020 Dem primaries, it's gonna be the best show ever.
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Yinlock posted:the dems likely think they're an absolute shoo-in and so are going for the foolproof strategy of punching left once again heil trump i guess
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:will or could bernie have any way of preventing this? given the fuckery in a place like new york where people had a bad habit of vanishing off the voter lists? it depends a lot on whether he can consolidate the voters who backed him because they didn’t like Hillary into a dedicated voting block. sturdy 40% goes a long way in a crowded field (see: trump), even if no one in charge of the party wants to see you win
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Al! posted:why would he need to campaign when obama will be doing it for him lmao I don't think Obama will be doing much other than issuing occasional proclamations from Luxury Retirement Island, but we will see.
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I’m glad that conservatives have focused their hate beacon on a young outspoken woman of color it’s almost as if that’s what this was all about from the start
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