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i'm not waiting for the primary. i'm telling every last shithead i know how much they can gently caress off saying harris or biden would beat trump.
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mastershakeman posted:Don't forget California primary is on super Tuesday in 2020 which is huge for Harris oh poo poo we matter now? gently caress can't wait to get blanketed with ads and flyers for the first time
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:will or could bernie have any way of preventing this? given the fuckery in a place like new york where people had a bad habit of vanishing off the voter lists? there’s a huge range of what “rat-loving” can entail, but it’s basically impossible for any candidate to prevent it beyond vigilance and thorough vetting of campaign staff. The better question is what type of loving can Bernie do himself. For obvious reasons. Bernie can make only limited use of party and institutional structures. This is a weakness that will have to be made up for by unaffiliated supporters or groups of unaffiliated supports acting as saboteurs of succ dem campaigns—which is more or less the original definition of ratfucking.
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bernie sanders is insanely old who knows what mental or physical state he'll even be in 2020
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mila kunis posted:bernie sanders is insanely old who knows what mental or physical state he'll even be in 2020 good and strong, respectively
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good, and strong, and my friend.
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 lmao except its democratsmila kunis posted:bernie sanders is insanely old who knows what mental or physical state he'll even be in 2020 berniejoggingthruairport.gif
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:good and strong, respectively Shear Modulus posted:good, and strong, and my friend.
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she's been playing hilldawg's playlist for awhile now, ratcheting up the identity politics the closer she sees her opponents to her in the polls. she's also a fan of the personal narrative, how she, unlike her opponents who were not in the same position of power as her, fought right to work (which passed) and for medicaid expansion (which didn't pass because of her). the whole "i stood with union workers in lansing" is especially infuriating because abdul supports "right-to-bargain" legislation, modeled after bernie's workplace democracy act, that would pass card check and a slew of other workers rights. she doesn't support these yet she gets all the union endorsements. from some unions supporting snyder to always supporting establishment dems, union leadership is seriously loving stupid.
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the libs are going to be owned hard BERNIE RISING
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:good and strong, respectively Also good. And strong.
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Thoguh posted:Also good. And strong. Real, and strong, and my friend.
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Good and strong, just like this basket I'm putting all my eggs in. ...am I doing this right?
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:good and strong, respectively Powerful & potent, tbh
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i'm ready to suit up for bernie for the primaries tbh 
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Aug 2, 2018 21:36
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does ing have a chance in that hawaii race
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Gio posted:she's been playing hilldawg's playlist for awhile now, ratcheting up the identity politics the closer she sees her opponents to her in the polls. she's also a fan of the personal narrative, how she, unlike her opponents who were not in the same position of power as her, fought right to work (which passed) and for medicaid expansion (which didn't pass because of her). Major unions supported Reagan which is all you need to know about their endorsement processes.
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Nonsense posted:the libs are going to be owned hard You know we need a lovely pro suc dem cover band like the right has with that awful Madison Rising.
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hobbesmaster posted:Major unions supported Reagan which is all you need to know about their endorsement processes. this isn't as ridiculous as it sounds Carter was awful on labor (today, he's remembered as an ultra liberal, but at the time he was considered pretty conservative for a Dem), and Reagan was a former union leader himself
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if you believe that obamacare wasn't a towering achievement that massively improved healthcare your view of reality isn't terribly useful
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Shear Modulus posted:does ing have a chance in that hawaii race on the one had the polls are not good, othoh  lmao gently caress polls
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Office Pig posted:if you believe that obamacare wasn't a towering achievement that massively improved healthcare your view of reality isn't terribly useful it opened health insurance to more people and somewhat reduced the rate of insurance cost growth conflating health insurance with health care is silly, but a common mistake
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Agean90 posted:on the one had the polls are not good, othoh polling primaries is tough polling multiway primaries is tougher polling for a candidate that will win or lose on the back of millennial turnout is nearly impossible nowadays
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Main Paineframe posted:it opened health insurance to more people and somewhat reduced the rate of insurance cost growth sorry, the new york democratic party doesn't pay me to acknowledge this
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Office Pig posted:if you believe that obamacare wasn't a towering achievement that massively improved healthcare your view of reality isn't terribly useful UltraRed posted:I work tangentially to the medical billing industry and we had a LOL today. Obama can suck a dick.
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Office Pig posted:if you believe that obamacare wasn't a towering achievement that massively improved healthcare your view of reality isn't terribly useful Howard Dean?
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"kim, chin and martin" sounds like a three stooges setup with less humor and more blood money
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Main Paineframe posted:this isn't as ridiculous as it sounds only 3 major unions that endorsed reagan over carter - teamsters, patco, and airline pilots. patco/airline pilots were upset about carter's FAA and the teamsters were mad about trucking de-regulation. pretty good chance teamsters would have endorsed reagan anyway - they endorsed nixon and h.w. bush (in 1988). reagan later ended up killing patco, of course.
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normally i'd say that is a testament to how the democrats have screwed over labor, but the teamsters base has to be majorly loving reactionary for that to happen.
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Interesting how AOC never walked through my neighborhood, the most dangerous neighborhood in the country, primarily because I live there,
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Interesting how AOC didn't vote against the bailouts and the Iraq War
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Feldegast42 posted:Interesting how AOC didn't vote against the bailouts and the Iraq War If she's "so progressive" where was she when Hillary was fighting for healthcare reform?
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on obama not endorsing ben jealous........quote:There are thousands of democratic candidates, and everyone thinks the person they like should get an endorsement right away. Folks need to relax and pay attention to who he is endorsing vs. speculating about who is not on the list. This isn’t jazz... it’s not about the notes that aren’t there....
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The Kingfish posted:I don’t think Biden sweeps the South like HRC did. Maybe if he gets an Obama endorsement, but that probably won’t come except as a last-ditch effort to stop Bernie. biden has run for pres about a hundred times, and every time he manages to cock something up, whether it's plagiarized speeches or imitating a convenience-store-owning indian. and that was back in the mostly pre-social-media days, when most journos were happy to go along with his hagiography. If he runs in 2020 social media's gonna be all over that poo poo from his past like opposing school integration and "context" won't matter.
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AOC, who is NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT (I assume without verification)
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docbeard posted:I would absolutely support a "cheerleader" position for Biden, where he has no actual power but gets to dunk on the opposition on a regular bas- lol, no. didn't he force obamas hand on gay marriage? he is just gonna say whatever he wants regardless of president bernie's desires
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