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Sash! posted:Probably difficult to shoot, looks bad on TV, and kinda distracting to audiences. Legion does just fine with tons of color.
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Sash! posted:Probably difficult to shoot, looks bad on TV, and kinda distracting to audiences. Motherfuckers should have to focus to enjoy Trek! I will say that one place Discovery delivers is in the fantasy-style depiction of space. I'm all about big beautiful nebulae and wild star clusters and stuff. That's what I'm all about. The sort of thing you put as your Windows 98 background wallpaper.
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HD DAD posted:I’m just not a fan of how...blue DIS is. It's not just blue. It's also orange!  Seriously though, Discovery does annoy me with how heavily orange/teal it is.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It's not just blue. Visual designers are addicted to the POP you get from that contrast.
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Marijuana posted:Visual designers are addicted to the POP you get from that contrast. Of the complementary color pairs, it's definitely the most overused. Red and green looks like Christmas so I think it's avoided. Are there some good purple and yellow compositions out there?
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Low Desert Punk posted:ethan phillips is a very good actor so he has pretty funny delivery and expressions on even the dumb poo poo that was written for him. People act like he's a Jar-Jar Binks level annoying character and I don't get that. I don't think Neelix is any more irritating than a character like Rom. Fellas, don't drink that raktajino. You'll never guess... There was a FISH... IN the replicator!
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HD DAD posted:I’m just not a fan of how...blue DIS is. Blue is my favourite colour but it's a problem with most modern sci fi, even The Expanse leans a little heavily into "everything is blue accent lighting" for my tastes and otherwise I think that show looks incredible
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Brawnfire posted:Of the complementary color pairs, it's definitely the most overused. Red and green looks like Christmas so I think it's avoided. The orange/teal combo is used because it’s the one that most naturally complements human skin tones - it makes people themselves “pop” out of the background. I do a lot of color grading for work, and it’s way overused, but I can see why the temptation is there. It’s pretty much the film equivalent of overcompressing audio masters. I will say though, the TNG remasters have some of the best looking color correction I’ve seen in a while - simply because it just looks natural.
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Marijuana posted:Visual designers are addicted to the POP you get from that contrast. Yeah, I get that. I feel like Discovery is especially egregious in how hard it leans on that though. Like having the imperial throneship's bridge be all orange, and then cut to the Disco bridge and it's all blue. Or another scene where the crisis has past and the Disco bridge goes from all-blue to mostly-orange. Or this fuckin' shot:  Like goddamn let's just go full bichromatic already
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For me the orange & teal trend is like someone who discovers how to turn up the contrast in their photos and says "Oh cool, doing this makes ALL my pictures look better!" Yes, it is objectively appealing to the human eye, but that doesn't mean it should be done constantly. But obviously that doesn't fly from a marketing perspective. Some theoretical unconvinced viewer might catch a few seconds of the show that aren't maximizing their visual appeal and then we've lost that viewer forever! You're literally stealing money out of our pockets if you don't color grade every scene!
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Sir Lemming posted:You're literally stealing money out of our pockets if you don't color grade every scene! good
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Do you think there is a race of purple aliens out there who are sick of all movies and TV shows being color graded for purple and yellow?
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Discovery is shot like how every Youtube filmmaking channel tells you to make movies
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The Enterprise crew are certainly a bland bunch, but they are at least likeable. And yes I did forget about Tuvok when listing good Voyager characters. He’s ok.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Or this fuckin' shot: Like, okay, here's a 5 minute touchup of that exact shot: 
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I think the problem is that it isn't blue and orange enough
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
Oh dear, this appears to be an aliens-only dining area.
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Please, Star Trek Discovery is a gritty drama, obviously it needs to be more like this.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Please, Star Trek Discovery is a gritty drama, obviously it needs to be more like this. "I thought I told you never to show your face in this mess hall again."
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Aug 3, 2018 22:51
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I didn't know we were posting The Orville pictures.
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They arrested Harlan Ellison?!? And from a few pages back: yes, the Centaur was a cool design. It may have been an Excelsior kitbash, but it still worked well as a variation on existing hardware without feeling like random pieces glued together, or adding highlighter pens to a saucer section.
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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:I see you turned the lights on. That's half the problem with all the Discovery sets. How can anyone get any work done with the lights off?
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Evek posted:That's half the problem with all the Discovery sets. How can anyone get any work done with the lights off? The only illumination is your work console. If you complete your task you are plunged into darkness. Resume work.
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I think they could do more with the lighting, make it Terok Noir.
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Tunicate posted:Terok Noir. gently caress you I love you
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Tom Guycot posted:I always thought there was a little more interesting take on that episode than that. I mean, yeah that species treated their 3rd gender as slaves, and yeah thats a bad thing, but how do you deal with it in practice? Anyhoo I think they avoid bright colors because bright colors are seen as kiddie poo poo and not grim adult style for matures. Back in TOS they were trying to sell Color TVs in general.
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Payndz posted:They arrested Harlan Ellison?!? 
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This episode of Voyager where they contact a Romulan 20 years in the past through a worm hole was actually very good and I enjoyed it a lot
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Oh hey it’s Enterprise with less bronze
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Also, data streams don't have to be digital; it could be (and, I would argue, probably should be) an analog signal. "Captain, we just upgraded the transporter. It's now capable of progressive-scan, no more interlacing artefacts, and the sample rate has a way better compression codec." "Thanks, Trip. Doesn't that sound great, buddy?" *the hideous, mangled thing which used to be a dog makes a pitiful gurgling noise, raising one frame-shifted paw to Archer's phase pistol, dragging it to point at its forehead*
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Low Desert Punk posted:When I do rewatches I skip the least Enterprise episodes. I probably skip a third of Voyager. None of them are fantastic but Enterprise is a consistently fine Trek. good for hangovers and playing in the background while you're writing papers. In recent years we've rewatched through TOS, TNG, and DS9 and I was fine. But after DS9 finished, even my wife didn't want to start Voyager yet. She did start Enterprise, and I just couldn't bother myself to be interested, any more than if it were one of the CW superhero shows she likes to watch with our daughters. And she gave it up after just a few episodes. Maybe we'll get back to it after a break....
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I cannot bring myself to watch Voyager.
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Admiral Bosch posted:I cannot bring myself to watch Voyager. It's not as bad as you probably think it is.
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Low Desert Punk posted:Discovery is shot like how every Youtube filmmaking channel tells you to make movies "What if Star Trek was IN COLOR?"
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Whalley posted:Like, okay, here's a 5 minute touchup of that exact shot: It's shocking how much more pleasing this is to look at. Also what the hell is the deal with no aliens being allowed to have hair anymore? Klingons don't have hair, Saru doesn't get hair, dude in the background of this picture doesn't get hair, cyborg lady doesn't get any, joke sneezing alien in the trailer doesn't get hair. Outside of vulcans who gets hair? Its starting to make all aliens look the same, and who decided "nah it's not cool if aliens have hair"? Jesus christ let some of them have hair for fucks sake!
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Tom Guycot posted:It's shocking how much more pleasing this is to look at. I just want Saru to have a beard in season 2 with no explanation or anyone acknowledging it.
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HD DAD posted:I just want Saru to have a beard in season 2 with no explanation or anyone acknowledging it.  Indeed.
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