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oh no blimp issue posted:I meant after the end of SB, when Estinien destroyed the eyes His dialogue hints that something of Nidhogg remained with him, buried in his lance, which is what's giving him his superpowers. He refers to it as "Nidhogg" when he's at Castrum Abania and it glows with the distinctive colors and sound they've associated with Nidhogg's eyes before.
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Vermain posted:His dialogue hints that something of Nidhogg remained with him, buried in his lance, which is what's giving him his superpowers. He refers to it as "Nidhogg" when he's at Castrum Abania and it glows with the distinctive colors and sound they've associated with Nidhogg's eyes before. Then what about us? Are we just that badass?
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oh no blimp issue posted:Then what about us? Are we just that badass? The explanation I've seen is that it's the Echo. The WoL's manifestation lets you glimpse into a person's past and see potential "what ifs" of the future, which is how you're able to avoid telegraphs (you can divine an opponent's intent) and repeatedly fail missions without dying (because every failed mission is simply the Echo giving you a vision of a possible future).
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Aug 6, 2018 23:51
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Vermain posted:The explanation I've seen is that it's the Echo. The WoL's manifestation lets you glimpse into a person's past and see potential "what ifs" of the future, which is how you're able to avoid telegraphs (you can divine an opponent's intent) and repeatedly fail missions without dying (because every failed mission is simply the Echo giving you a vision of a possible future). I’m not sure the echo lets us use Blood of the Dragon or Dragon Sight
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oh no blimp issue posted:I’m not sure the echo lets us use Blood of the Dragon or Dragon Sight Those are just ancient Dragoon techniques that you're able to learn because you're a highly talented, motivated individual that loves to fight. One of the Scions (Y'shtola?) even comments early on in 2.0 that it's fortunate that they found someone who's got both the Echo and a distinct taste for getting their hands dirty.
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Its also noted at some point that on top of our own large amount of Aether and any leftover we might have from the end of HW that the job stone for Dragoon just has a poo poo TON of Aether in it. The job stone alone is responsible for all of the crazy jumps you can do as a Dragoon by powering them with pure aether. Add in our ability to master abilities in minutes that it takes others years to achieve and its possible we just figured out how to manage all those crazy techniques without a gigantic battery on our person.
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oh no blimp issue posted:Then what about us? Are we just that badass? I just assumed we get to still be azure dragoons because of the eye Hraesvelgr gave us at the end of 3.3.
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Aug 7, 2018 01:01
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Leviabeetus posted:I just assumed we get to still be azure dragoons because of the eye Hraesvelgr gave us at the end of 3.3. Pretty sure that was returned.
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Aug 7, 2018 01:03
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Pretty sure that was returned. Rewatched the end of 3.3, cause I was pretty sure it wasn't. The eye fed us a bunch of power and disappeared. Hraesvelgr left with an empty eye socket at the end of it. Possible I missed something later on, I guess.
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I think Estinien got stronger thanks to the power of friendship. I'm excited to meet him again. I finished the WoD plotline. The final battle was a bit of an unintuitive mess (I did not realize there was an object you could interact with until it was almost too late), and you had to lose aggro. I guess storywise it's okay (also reminds me of some Avengers comic storyline a few years back with other dying worlds and stuff). Now Yda's been acting weird. Hmm.
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So I get the impression that a lot of these fights that you do with a party of players are "canonically" supposed to involve the Warrior of Light being a DBZ badass and soloing all these giant monsters. Like, some of them will say "gather some other heroes," but some very clearly indicate it's the WoL doing it by themselves (or with some set NPCs) through cutscenes.Tashilicious posted:There is still quite a bit to the story you don't know. I'm happy to hear this.
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I have to wonder how the fight with Greg went canonically given that he mentions eight people specifically in battle.
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Ytlaya posted:So I get the impression that a lot of these fights that you do with a party of players are "canonically" supposed to involve the Warrior of Light being a DBZ badass and soloing all these giant monsters. Like, some of them will say "gather some other heroes," but some very clearly indicate it's the WoL doing it by themselves (or with some set NPCs) through cutscenes. sometimes they lampshade it either way but i think ultimately it's one of those details that isnt terribly important in the grand scheme of things ifrit supposedly took an army to defeat with massive casualties before you came along so whether you did it alone or with some buddies its still pretty impressive
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Leviabeetus posted:Rewatched the end of 3.3, cause I was pretty sure it wasn't. The eye fed us a bunch of power and disappeared. Hraesvelgr left with an empty eye socket at the end of it. Possible I missed something later on, I guess. I distinctly remember that during the cutscene where you're flying alongside him at the end of 3.3 Hraesvelgr has both of his eyes.
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oh no blimp issue posted:Are we still Azure Dragoons now? Or are we just really badass normal Dragoons? Well the little dragon you help out trying to find his dad's consort suggest a new, way cooler title "Crimson Dragoon", unfortunately we get "The Blood Dragoon" as a title instead
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Vermain posted:The explanation I've seen is that it's the Echo. The WoL's manifestation lets you glimpse into a person's past and see potential "what ifs" of the future, which is how you're able to avoid telegraphs (you can divine an opponent's intent) and repeatedly fail missions without dying (because every failed mission is simply the Echo giving you a vision of a possible future). I mean this is a nice fanfic and all but I'm pretty sure the WoL is just a strong catgirl who's good at killing things.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I have to wonder how the fight with Greg went canonically given that he mentions eight people specifically in battle. There are plenty of times when it mentions that you have adventurer friends to come help fight various primals throughout the story. So canonically the WoL has a posse of randos to call upon at anytime to kill gods. So basically the Echo is insta-tank queues.
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A second goon has handed me a pile of gil and the keys to his home, this time it was erectoral collage/Corin Valorend. He had set up an office on the ground level with a bedroom in the basement, but didn't know what to do with the rest of it. Here's some Before pics:   I liked the idea of an adventurer's office, and ran with that as my inspiration. Here's the After pics. Let reception handle clients in the ground floor waiting area.   Downstairs is the adventurer's den, where they plan the next job and keep trophies of the last. The boss has his own area down here.   Complete album here, including the exterior renovation: https://imgur.com/a/6r7pgFg Or visit the house at Excal Lavender Beds 15, Plot 56
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I'm just not sure but could someone explain what the WoD did wrong? They mentioned that they defeated all the baddies in their world until nothing was left, and it got screwed up, so the moral lesson of the story is... leave some of bad guys out because too much Light is bad? I wonder if it ties to Thordan's horrified question at what are you exactly as he croaks.
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Basically the point is that they didn't do anything wrong, but because their world is a reflection of the original world (the one we live in) if Light and Dark get unbalanced it ends up destroying the world. When Dark got too powerful one of the worlds because the Void, and the WoD's world got unbalanced where Light became too powerful. This had the consequence of basically erasing everything by making it white and uniform, or perfect order. This may or may not be a danger to the original world we live in, but it has not been confirmed in the story. The reason that Minfillia goes with the WoD is so Hydaelyn can absorb all the extra Light from their world and prevent it's destruction. I am not sure if it is the same as Astral Aether, or if it's different.
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Bolow posted:Well the little dragon you help out trying to find his dad's consort suggest a new, way cooler title "Crimson Dragoon", unfortunately we get "The Blood Dragoon" as a title instead Listen, you can't steal all of his titles, okay? 
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Schneider Heim posted:I'm just not sure but could someone explain what the WoD did wrong? They mentioned that they defeated all the baddies in their world until nothing was left, and it got screwed up, so the moral lesson of the story is... leave some of bad guys out because too much Light is bad? I wonder if it ties to Thordan's horrified question at what are you exactly as he croaks. In Final Fantasy III, the Warriors of Light and Warriors of Darkness balance out the harmony between their worlds by ensuring neither side becomes too powerful and summons the Cloud of Darkness/Light respectively. Presumably, the situation is like that in XIV, but the Ascians are too dumb to realize pure darkness isn't better than pure light.
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Schneider Heim posted:I'm just not sure but could someone explain what the WoD did wrong? They mentioned that they defeated all the baddies in their world until nothing was left, and it got screwed up, so the moral lesson of the story is... leave some of bad guys out because too much Light is bad? I wonder if it ties to Thordan's horrified question at what are you exactly as he croaks. It's just a reinforcement that light and dark are not necessarily good and evil. Too much of either is bad. You must balance the force blah blah blah. I actually think it's a neat concept, but since it's just straight up the plot of FF3, the impact was a bit lost on me.
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the gimmick behind ff14 is that it is The Final Fantasy it's just a greatest hits collection, and it rules because of it
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Really disappointed Kefka and Exdeath are just simulations and won't be real villains with actual story arcs in game.
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Phone posted:the gimmick behind ff14 is that it is The Final Fantasy But that was 9's thing! 
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Phone posted:the gimmick behind ff14 is that it is The Final Fantasy This is true, but also super sweet best pal posted:Really disappointed Kefka and Exdeath are just simulations and won't be real villains with actual story arcs in game. I want all of the Final Fantasy references, even from the ones that are bad (hello Ridorana). I just want them to feel a lil more weaved into the plot.
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As someone who's only played X-2 to the end and X to a chapter or two away from the end, I don't mind the current inclusion of other FFs, though something like Xande is definitely preferable to Omega Weapon's simulations. I just don't want them to intrude on the MSQ that much though.
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https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/5cd214d57cdf76296a16db00a0a0f6e5e87212b0 Patch notes!
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Looking into some rumors for 5.0, I saw that the source is just a random poster... who correctly called out, before the main 4.3 features were even officially announced, let alone the patch releasing, that Yotsuyu would become Tsukuyomi, Alphinaud would be saved by Gaius, and that you'd even play as Alphinaud. and then again, before it was announced, that there would be an official crossover with Monster Hunter World. Little fanfare, no corroboration, just "This is going to happen." It's suggested perhaps that they just guess from datamining, but no one else had those solo duty points guessed a month in advance. So... take with plenty of salt, because the latest scuttlebutt for 5.0 from this person is Viera race, Blue Mage, Dancer, and Gunblade/Soldier - and Viera not being the only new race, and Blue Mage apparently as... melee support in the Ninja vein...? With the Gunblade as tank. Also suggests that Alphascape's fights will draw earlier rather than later in the series timeline. However, they're also pretty adamant that Blue Mage will drop in a patch before the expansion. In more concrete news, the patch notes are up. Pagos has happy bunnies. 
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:In Final Fantasy III, the Warriors of Light and Warriors of Darkness balance out the harmony between their worlds by ensuring neither side becomes too powerful and summons the Cloud of Darkness/Light respectively. Presumably, the situation is like that in XIV, but the Ascians are too dumb to realize pure darkness isn't better than pure light. Got it. So what Elidibus is saying about maintaining the balance is pure BS? It seems he's head and shoulders above the other Ascians and knows something they don't.
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Schneider Heim posted:Got it. So what Elidibus is saying about maintaining the balance is pure BS? It seems he's head and shoulders above the other Ascians and knows something they don't. Elidibs is all about maintaining the balance because of that. He may in fact be looking for a third option judging by the Warring Triad escapades
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ImpAtom posted:https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/5cd214d57cdf76296a16db00a0a0f6e5e87212b0 For a second, I thought I could exchange pazuzu feathers for crystals because drat I have so many in my chocobo saddlebag, then was sad it was the other way around Then I realized, it's me, I'm the one who has done WAY too much eureka and need an intervention.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Elidibs is all about maintaining the balance because of that.
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So what you're saying is that Elidibus is Genre Savvy as gently caress, is why he's doing his own thing instead of the megalomaniacal bad guy schtick.
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The Ascians just want to revive Zodiark or whatever but Elidibus wants there to be a world for him to wake up in while the other Ascians just feel like the end of the world is a problem for the Warrior of Light to deal with.
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Samael posted:For a second, I thought I could exchange pazuzu feathers for crystals because drat I have so many in my chocobo saddlebag, then was sad it was the other way around Oh gently caress. I read it that way too.  At least that means I probably won't need to grind Anemos for my other classes as all the crystals should be downgradable.
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