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LinYutang early in the resultsLinYutang posted:on what, progressives losing? fayrouz saad, Rashida Tlaib, Dave Benac, Chris Smith, etc were all backed by michigan progressive groups and all got crushed pretty handily LinYutang after the results LinYutang posted:The Michigan results were truly embarrassing, there was a progressive challenge in nearly every race and only Rashida won LinYutang posted:rashida was also extremely lucky the black vote was split between two candidates. I don't see her lasting long https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/881161169469403137
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the fact that the Michigan Dem ticket has no black representation is a serious concern for anyone watching the 2018 election FYI
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loquacius posted:The Dem primaries were always a difficult step due to institutional opposition and entrenched interests. It was always going to be a long process and I don't think anyone is convinced that only partial success in the early stages means the movement is doomed to failure unless they really wanted to believe it. All the progressive/leftist organizers I know in MI are in a pretty deep state of shock, the results were just extremely bad considering Bernie's success in 2016. Abdul didn't win a single county. I don't think anyone feels that it is "doomed to failure" but this was a pretty important moment to push back against the establishment machine and they're going to entrench now that progressives aren't a serious threat
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LinYutang posted:the fact that the Michigan Dem ticket has no black representation is a serious concern for anyone watching the 2018 election FYI 
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LinYutang posted:All the progressive/leftist organizers I know in MI are in a pretty deep state of shock, the results were just extremely bad considering Bernie's success in 2016. Abdul didn't win a single county. They were always going to say that no matter what. No reason to doomsay; that just helps them.
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drat I'm more and more impressed on how she is taking the bull by its horns on this and fighting the good fight
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Also the establishment is already entrenched. It's strange how people act like there's a fight over a vacuum and the centrists just stumbled into a political machine. There isn't. The progressives are trying to make gains in areas held by other parties and is entirely on the offensive. If the progressives win even one seat it's a win, Because every win gives them more legitimacy and every loss is just the status quo, which in this environment defaults to being under attack, which is just another opportunity.
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Agean90 posted:Also the establishment is already entrenched. It's strange how people act like there's a fight over a vacuum and the centrists just stumbled into a political machine. There isn't. The progressives are trying to make gains in areas held by other parties and is entirely on the offensive. If the progressives win even one seat it's a win, Because every win gives them more legitimacy and every loss is just the status quo, which in this environment defaults to being under attack, which is just another opportunity. *staring at navel and picking out lint thinking of some IDPOL things*
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The St. Louis County DA result loving owns, I hope Bell goes full Krasner bullet point twitter lists always remind me of this classic https://twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/667375199780806657?lang=en
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shut the gently caress up zegermans
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WampaLord posted:shut the gently caress up zegermans i'm actually good now
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shut the gently caress up zegermans
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You dont go full Krasner because Krasner did a lovely thing
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zegermans posted:yo why did abdul go down so hard I thought he was doin better it was basically the kind of result you might have expected of Ocasio-Cortez versus Crowley, and it's going to be insufferable if it happens to Nixon and people start bleating about how "Bernie's moment has passed" or whatever the gently caress gotta keep pushing
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zegermans posted:i'm actually good now "I'm comparing this extremely good AOC tweet to this extremely dumb Podesta tweet, I'm good now"
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gradenko_2000 posted:he didn't go down "hard" in the sense that he was trailing behind Thanedar and completely dunked him. I don't know what to make of reports that Sayed wasn't hitting all the places he should have been, but it's also the case that Whitmer had a ton of establishment support and money, and Sayed coming as close as he did was something. That would be what the dozenth time centrists have declared Bernie's time has passed
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spacetoaster posted:What exactly is the blue wave supposed to do anyway? Keep the democrat party on life support for a while longer? install these plutocrats instead of those plutocrats it is very important that the correct plutocrats manipulate and win our elections
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KomradeX posted:That would be what the dozenth time centrists have declared Bernie's time has passed Also them crowing about sayeds loss won't mean much if they, you know, lose the governor's election in November
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gradenko_2000 posted:he didn't go down "hard" in the sense that he was trailing behind Thanedar and completely dunked him. I don't know what to make of reports that Sayed wasn't hitting all the places he should have been, but it's also the case that Whitmer had a ton of establishment support and money, and Sayed coming as close as he did was something. I think Salazar will win at least
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look even though there is effectively no difference between R and D for the average worker, surely you cannot just stand by while they do all this poo poo Obama did too right?!?
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mastershakeman posted:I'm gonna lol really hard if citizens United is the reason centrist Dems hold onto their seats libs will always use the tools of the fascists to suppress the left
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Barry Convex posted:I think Salazar will win at least Carper is also going to go down.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Carper is also going to go down. inshallah
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mastershakeman posted:I'm gonna lol really hard if citizens United is the reason centrist Dems hold onto their seats nah its because primaries heavily favor the incumbent and/or the person receiving the full support of the local party which unsurprisingly are filled with hacks
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Matt Zerella posted:https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1027184080352423937 i mean that james thompson guy seems fairly middle-of-the-road succ "opportunity" "affordable healthcare" no fight for 15, no m4a who loving cares
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Agean90 posted:Also them crowing about sayeds loss won't mean much if they, you know, lose the governor's election in November Which I'm just assuming is going to happen anyway
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Sapozhnik posted:i mean that james thompson guy seems fairly middle-of-the-road succ the Dems must be punished. Find and elect more socialists to own them
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:this is the only strategy the democrats know Maybe calling them dumb racists will work? How about some other ist word? Has that been tried yet? We should get some rich famous people to tell them they won't be cool unless they vote for dems.
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gradenko_2000 posted:he didn't go down "hard" in the sense that he was trailing behind Thanedar and completely dunked him. I don't know what to make of reports that Sayed wasn't hitting all the places he should have been, but it's also the case that Whitmer had a ton of establishment support and money, and Sayed coming as close as he did was something. plus, the establishment candidate only got 52% of the vote. hardly a sign that the dems are completely unbeatable.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:nah its because primaries heavily favor the incumbent and/or the person receiving the full support of the local party which unsurprisingly are filled with hacks #HackTheHacks not like electronically, like go Hutu on them.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:nah its because primaries heavily favor the incumbent and/or the person receiving the full support of the local party which unsurprisingly are filled with hacks and also because external liberal organizations are heavily captive to the Democratic party and can spend pretty much unrestricted
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Rastor posted:shut the gently caress up zegermans
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gradenko_2000 posted:Carper is also going to go down. I would love for this to happen, but that seems like quite a long shot. Is there any basis for this?
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Sapozhnik posted:i mean that james thompson guy seems fairly middle-of-the-road succ https://www.votejamesthompson.com/issues quote:The way of life for working families is under attack. James will work to bring the minimum wage up to a Kansas living wage. Full time workers should not be forced live in poverty. quote:James believes in a Medicare for All plan if the Democrats can take back control of Congress. not full communism now, but calling him succ doesn't seem fair either
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