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Seattle and "planning" are two words that don't go together. Sons of the Profits is a good book about the founding of the city by the guy who started the underground tour.
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Aug 10, 2018 23:59
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sarah smith up by 2,600 votes now after this afternoon’s ballot drop
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Aug 11, 2018 00:00
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5th district dems out at the Festival at Mt Si. Happy, energized, with a dozen people outside chatting about politics. Apparently Bill Ramos got to 8000 houses personally. Dino for Congress also at the festival. One middle aged white guy looking very unhappy.
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Aug 11, 2018 03:16
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Cicero posted:Is there no "make new building with space for Showbox on the ground floor" compromise option? Personally I'm pro-Showbox, there are plenty of other places for a 44 story condo building to go. developers are already swallowing the lots next door. I think at the very least its important for those that care about Seattle show culture to give it a shot. Test the mechanisms of preservation, not just let capital decide it wants more places to stash money. I'm getting pushed out of my block by development this month. My rent is doubled and I have a 84 unit building going in next door. That is fine. The Showbox should stay.
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Aug 11, 2018 03:28
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https://twitter.com/hi_its_kyle/status/1028122300049121280
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Yeah what the gently caress. I heard the jets earlier but I just chalked it up to the usual JBLM stuff.
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Aug 11, 2018 05:09
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The pro-Showbox crowd is pitching a massive extension of the Pike Market historical district, almost doubling it in size, that would render a large swathe of downtown undevelopable, including existing surface parking lots. Just in case you thought Kshama Sawant was actually capable of good policy. https://thecisforcrank.com/2018/08/06/what-save-the-showbox-really-means/  That's been subsequently Seattle'd into a doofus half measure that punts the problem 10 months, but I guess that's better than nothing. https://thecisforcrank.com/2018/08/09/saving-the-showbox-just-took-a-big-step-forward-but-whats-next/
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DrNutt posted:Yeah what the gently caress. I heard the jets earlier but I just chalked it up to the usual JBLM stuff. possibly shot down, but we'll never know https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/status/1028132381448982530 anthonypants fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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The Oldest Man posted:The pro-Showbox crowd is pitching a massive extension of the Pike Market historical district, almost doubling it in size, that would render a large swathe of downtown undevelopable, including existing surface parking lots. Just in case you thought Kshama Sawant was actually capable of good policy. How... small do you think Seattle's downtown is if you think the other side of 1st Ave and a bump towards union is a "large swath"? Do you live here? Do you know there are more than one Avenue in downtown?
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Gerund posted:How... small do you think Seattle's downtown is if you think the other side of 1st Ave and a bump towards union is a "large swath"? Do you live here? Do you know there are more than one Avenue in downtown? I live two blocks North of the shaded area there. Closing multiple blocks in the city center to development, in a city in the midst of a housing crisis, that has already zoned over half of its land for low density uses only, is criminal. That area is also right next to a light rail station and a block away from the 3rd Ave bus corridor, so it's got extremely good transit access on top of the high nearby job density. Marking a bunch of parking structures, a strip club, etc. as a historical area so that none of it can be redeveloped is municipal suicide by zoning. The Oldest Man fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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Aug 11, 2018 07:20
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There is also the question of why the other spaces in the district (like the parking lots) could be used for housing while the Showbox itself is preserved. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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Aug 11, 2018 13:49
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By all means stop developers from making GBS threads on us but not like this.
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https://twitter.com/AaronMesh/status/1029824803023151104 Two important points to consider is that the mayor of Portland is the police commissioner, and also that Lars Larson is a piece of poo poo Rush Limbaugh wannabe
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anthonypants posted:https://twitter.com/AaronMesh/status/1029824803023151104 LOL that the police chief is literally named Outlaw.
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anthonypants posted:https://twitter.com/AaronMesh/status/1029824803023151104 I like a police officer who respects the chain of command.
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Oscar Wild posted:I like a police officer who respects the chain of command. My favorite is the liberal who doesn’t want being homeless to be a crime, but still wants the homeless in jail. https://twitter.com/53rdgoat/status/1029829394326376448?s=21
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Aug 15, 2018 21:56
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Thaddius the Large posted:My favorite is the liberal who doesn’t want being homeless to be a crime, but still wants the homeless in jail. This seems to be a growing sentiment around Portland. I hear more and more people who pooh pooh about "service resistant homeless" and then those people roll their eyes at me when I suggest maybe we should make services available before we focus on what to do with the hypothetical subset of people who will be resistant to those services.
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Aug 15, 2018 21:59
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Running into some service resistant homeless was really eye opening to me when I first got into outreach work but it's loving infuriating to see them being used as a reason to withhold vital community services for the homeless and impoverished at large. There is no low that these nimby fucks won't stoop to.
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Aug 15, 2018 22:40
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DrNutt posted:Running into some service resistant homeless was really eye opening to me when I first got into outreach work but it's loving infuriating to see them being used as a reason to withhold vital community services for the homeless and impoverished at large. There is no low that these nimby fucks won't stoop to. I have to imagine service resistance is the exception and not the rule, and that those individuals might change their minds. It is important to provide that service in case they do.
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Aug 15, 2018 22:50
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Oscar Wild posted:I have to imagine service resistance is the exception and not the rule, and that those individuals might change their minds. It is important to provide that service in case they do. Yeah, call me crazy but if folks are service resistant, maybe we should blame the services and not the people.
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Aug 15, 2018 22:52
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If we get it down to where 100% of the remaining homeless are "service resistant" then we have a different problem to solve but for now why not do what we can? Oh right, people are poo poo, that's why not. E: here (rural OR) the big "service" is a church run shelter that has some pretty draconian rules for people. Like to have to give up any pets, can't even leave to look for work, must attend religious services, no smoking or drinking, not to mention any other substances. I think they can have coffee but that's it for useful drugs. Can't imagine why people would decline such a generous offer. Javid fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Aug 15, 2018 |
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Aug 15, 2018 22:53
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I caught a radio segment the other day about how Josephine County residents refuse to pay taxes on fire service, so there's a couple of fire protection companies that operate in the area, and what's hilarious is sometimes even someone who's paid up their subscription to one service will get dinged when the other service shows up first. The guy they were interviewing said something like "yeah this doesn't really work very well... but people around here don't want big government..." and come on, tell it straight, at that point it's not about "no big government" it's about "no government."
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Which is funny because that story is just "so why am I even paying for this poo poo" in a nutshell. I'm in joco and have never heard anything like that, fwiw, but it is the county that basically doesn't have LE outside of the one city for similar reasons.
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Javid posted:E: here (rural OR) the big "service" is a church run shelter that has some pretty draconian rules for people. Like to have to give up any pets, can't even leave to look for work, must attend religious services, no smoking or drinking, not to mention any other substances. I think they can have coffee but that's it for useful drugs. Can't imagine why people would decline such a generous offer. Yeah, what I ran into when I was doing outreach for Planned Parenthood back in the day was there were a lot of LGBT youth who felt like PP was extremely hetero-centric and unable to provide the right services for their sexual health needs (which was sort of the case honestly, though PP has really ramped up their LGBT services in the past ten years or so), OR people who were in extremely difficult and marginalized situations who couldn't really take a big bag of condoms because that was likely to get them beat up or worse, and without at least being signed up for state medicaid you're not getting anything more expensive than condoms at PP. So the common thread is that "service resistant homeless" is a catchall phrase used by nimby fucks to say poo poo like "well they're not even accepting the help available to them" when in fact a ton of those services are still difficult to access or not what's needed by most of them.
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DrNutt posted:Yeah, what I ran into when I was doing outreach for Planned Parenthood back in the day was there were a lot of LGBT youth who felt like PP was extremely hetero-centric and unable to provide the right services for their sexual health needs (which was sort of the case honestly, though PP has really ramped up their LGBT services in the past ten years or so), OR people who were in extremely difficult and marginalized situations who couldn't really take a big bag of condoms because that was likely to get them beat up or worse, and without at least being signed up for state medicaid you're not getting anything more expensive than condoms at PP. What are your thoughts on the "housing first" model? I have heard it isn't as effective as claimed, but to me it still seems like the most logical place to start.
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I'm services resistant because nobody will pay for my meds that calm the voices that distort my reality and which have caused me to flunk out of the last 5 programs I tried. So I realized I'm better off living in a tent with people who know not to gently caress with me and whom nobody will miss if I hurt them. Or if i'm not crazy, the services are nice but insufficient to afford rent so I'd rather camp while I figure out how to earn a living. Stop stealing my tent and clothes every 40 days you loving pigs that's not helping.
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therobit posted:What are your thoughts on the "housing first" model? I have heard it isn't as effective as claimed, but to me it still seems like the most logical place to start. I'm not super familiar with the ins and outs because my work with impoverished communities is focused on providing goods and services and a lot of the people I see do have a roof over their head, but if it is the idea that the biggest obstacle for most people is having a place to live then I'm pretty down with starting there. People who are privileged with housing do tend to take it for granted how many things are typically reliant on a person having a fixed address and access to a clean living space (insert joke about goons living in filth here).
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Aug 16, 2018 04:42
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Meanwhile on the other side of the state the wind has finally shifted so now instead of being covered with smoke from California's wildfires we're being covered with smoke from British Columbia's wildfires.  I want to die.
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Aug 19, 2018 21:52
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It's been really fantastic not being able to open my windows at night to cool the house down because the air outside is worse than Shanghai.
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Aug 19, 2018 23:02
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That doesn’t seem fantastic at all.
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Aug 19, 2018 23:03
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It's funny watching Portland react to what every summer is like in Medford.
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Aug 20, 2018 01:18
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The bad air quality hasn't bothered me but it's left my dad house bound. He was just diagnosed with aortic stenosis a couple weeks ago, too.
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Aug 20, 2018 01:50
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Dang my whole like, sneezing/sinus shits make a lot of sense now
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https://twitter.com/NWSSeattle/status/1031369209572290560 National Weather Service aint playin round.
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silicone thrills posted:https://twitter.com/NWSSeattle/status/1031369209572290560 I checked the forecast on wunderground and it was "Smoke"
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silicone thrills posted:https://twitter.com/NWSSeattle/status/1031369209572290560 NWS' twitter game is on point. Last year when we were surrounded by wildfire the Spokane NWS simply listed air quality as "Mordor." https://twitter.com/NWSSpokane/status/1031351814216736768 Yay? 
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Jagged Jim posted:NWS' twitter game is on point. Last year when we were surrounded by wildfire the Spokane NWS simply listed air quality as "Mordor." Burn the world stop global warming.
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Aug 20, 2018 05:59
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Jack2142 posted:Burn the world stop global warming. "Years without summer" happen because of massive volcanic eruptions, so you're not entirely wrong!
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I've sometimes idly wondered if a controlled nuclear winter effect could be a duct tape solution to global warming, for at least a couple years. Could even be a two birds with one stone thing depending on where we drop the nuke, too.
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