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loquacius posted:I remain a Warren apologist and my take is still that she IS advocating for change even if she's said and done some off-color things that might give some people ITT cause to distrust her, and there's a decent chance she's gonna be our best choice in a couple years Unless God forbid Bernie Sanders dies within the next couple years she is absolutely not our best choice, assuming she runs at all. Her consumer protection advocacy seems good but stuff like this bill is more of the same weak tea Dem reform. It's just more delicate pruning on the branches of a rotten tree.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Unless God forbid Bernie Sanders dies within the next couple years she is absolutely not our best choice, assuming she runs at all. Her consumer protection advocacy seems good but stuff like this bill is more of the same weak tea Dem reform. It's just more delicate pruning on the branches of a rotten tree. if Bernie dies itll suck but it's not a disaster becausenbow we have a new generation of decent politicians starting to make themselves known. OCASIO!
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:14 |
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image of buff black dude and buff white dude shaking hands, except they're labeled "socialists" and "editorial pages" and the handshake is labeled "elizabeth warren is the absolute furthest the radical wing of the liberal party should be allowed to go, maybe a little too far"
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:18 |
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of course Tapper regurgitates the Mercatus talking points lol https://twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/1030469801066426370?s=21
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Mandoric posted:image of buff black dude and buff white dude shaking hands My man go watch Predator
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MeatwadIsGod posted:My man go watch Praydator And empty 'em dreamcatchers while you're at it
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:21 |
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Succers in my feed bitching about AOC having... Security concerns? Im not sure what this is about http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/ocasio-cortez-bans-press-from-town-hall/article_e59fba26-ddd9-559a-af62-e11dd76e1191.html
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Unless God forbid Bernie Sanders dies within the next couple years she is absolutely not our best choice, assuming she runs at all. Her consumer protection advocacy seems good but stuff like this bill is more of the same weak tea Dem reform. It's just more delicate pruning on the branches of a rotten tree. The scenario I was describing was "Bernie decides he is too old and can't handle another campaign"; he's the only leftist other than Warren who is in a position to make a serious run at it right now unless somebody can catch 2016 Bernie lightning in a bottle again, and even if that were the case I'm not sure who I'd want it to be given that AOC is still too young and also, point of order, and I'm saying this as a ryde-or-die Bernie Bro from the beginning: I don't think Bernie Sanders would Take Down Capitalism either. Short of an actual factual real-rear end Eleven-Eleven's-worst-nightmare violent revolution, some bold and comprehensive reform of the finance, education, insurance, and bandwidth industries paired with stronger labor union presence, campaign finance reform, and a reorganization of the American left's priorities to actually try to take it further is the best we could expect from him, and I don't think this makes him (or me) particularly cowardly because it's a lot to accomplish.
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Gunshow Poophole posted:Succers in my feed bitching about AOC having... Security concerns? Good - I hope she uses White Noise machines while telling people how to start a revolution
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Barry Convex posted:of course Tapper regurgitates the Mercatus talking points lol wowie
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:31 |
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Barry Convex posted:of course Tapper regurgitates the Mercatus talking points lol Tapper is so awful. He's taking the Mercatus guy's damage control as gospel truth. Jesus
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Barry Convex posted:of course Tapper regurgitates the Mercatus talking points lol oh no hospital owners might not be able to afford their yachts Edit: and even doctors still get a fat check quote:What If Doctors Got Paid Only Medicare Rates? Ruzihm fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:36 |
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Ruzihm posted:oh no hospital owners might not be able to afford their yachts Imagine watching Scrubs and thinking Dr Kelso is the protagonist
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:38 |
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Barry Convex posted:of course Tapper regurgitates the Mercatus talking points lol fact check: some rich people said it was bad, so it is
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:38 |
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Condiv posted:I know, I’m agreeing with you oh my bad then
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loquacius posted:The scenario I was describing was "Bernie decides he is too old and can't handle another campaign"; he's the only leftist other than Warren who is in a position to make a serious run at it right now unless somebody can catch 2016 Bernie lightning in a bottle again, and even if that were the case I'm not sure who I'd want it to be given that AOC is still too young Oh for sure. It's grim but I don't see capitalism getting overthrown without violent revolution or a major cataclysm. Sanders wants a 21st century New Deal which puts him lightyears ahead of any other Democratic candidate imo. If his administration could accomplish even 20 percent of his policies we'd have a far better quality of life and would be less of a nightmare compared to other developed countries.
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:41 |
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Barry Convex posted:of course Tapper regurgitates the Mercatus talking points lol Tapper is so bad ‘Whataboutism’ Runs Amok as Jake Tapper Rattles Off Trump Talking Points quote:Borrowing straight from Trump administration talking points, Tapper reported on the UN voting 128 to 9 in an emergency session against the US moving its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem—a gesture effectively solidifying 50 years of illegal military occupation—by heavily implying antisemitism was to blame. In the segment, Tapper employed a popular, superficially appealing pro-Israel talking point that the UN was “singling out” Israel at the expense of other Bad Countries. “Among the 128 countries that voted to condemn the US on this issue,” Tapper charged, “were some countries with some questionable records of their own.”
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 16:42 |
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:yellow peril and black power were indistinguishable in tone during the 1960s and 70s. the black panther party got started selling maos red book in Berkeley for example, and their policy platform influenced the formation of Chinese radical left groups like the red guards in San Francisco and I Wor Kuhn in NYC. sorry, I didn't mean to say that blacks and asians have always been in conflict in America. was just pointing out that they often are now, because white liberals have a bad habit of assuming that all non-whites have automatic solidarity with each other, when the reality is far more complicated. see also: the liberal tendency to lump a bunch of ethnic communities together under the single "Hispanic" label Terror Sweat posted:The model minority thing is a myth, every American hates all other races that aren’t them its a "house slaves vs field slaves" thing. by granting one minority slightly better treatment than the others, that group becomes fearful and protective of that privilege and acts to keep the other minority groups from ascending to that position too. by directing different levels of discrimination at different groups, white society turns those groups against each other, as the higher-privilege groups become less willing to support pushes for equality from the lower-privilege groups. for example, even though Asian-Americans still face discrimination in the admissions process to elite universities, they still fare far better than African-Americans - and have therefore become supporters of the white efforts to dismantle affirmative action. the same thing happened in the Jewish-American community some decades back, and was a major factor in the breakdown of Jewish-black solidarity and of course, there's an economic component to all this too, because the varying privilege levels are often organized along economic class lines, and the members of those groups that lead the charge to break down solidarity are typically the well-off ones. business owners, elite university attendees, sitting politicians. the breakdown of solidarity starts at the top, and the powerful influence and public reach of the rich means that it easily flows downhill from there
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Ruzihm posted:oh no hospital owners might not be able to afford their yachts i'm fine with doctors getting a fat check under UHC, except for ben shapiro's wife - she has to work for nothing at gunpoint
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Barry Convex posted:of course Tapper regurgitates the Mercatus talking points lol more and more I loathe Jake Tapper ever since he moderated the Parkland town hall and gave the NRA freebies
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 17:33 |
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meanwhile, the opposition party in the UK is putting out this: https://mobile.twitter.com/mattzarb/status/1030401888368373760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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https://twitter.com/JohnKDelaney/status/1030482227765760000
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Taintrunner posted:meanwhile, the opposition party in the UK is putting out this: same but capitalism as a whole
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IMHO: ghouls are worse than goblins
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Main Paineframe posted:sorry, I didn't mean to say that blacks and asians have always been in conflict in America. was just pointing out that they often are now, because white liberals have a bad habit of assuming that all non-whites have automatic solidarity with each other, when the reality is far more complicated. see also: the liberal tendency to lump a bunch of ethnic communities together under the single "Hispanic" label In most of Asia, no one would blink twice at blatant racism against blacks. It's just generally taken as a given over there.
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 18:16 |
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when the masses of incel chinese men start getting african mail order brides i think racial sentiment might change a little
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Calibanibal posted:IMHO: ghouls are worse than goblins the save-or-paralyze is the worst part unless you're an elf
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https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/1030487594285510661 tfw the russia probe is the first thing on your mind when trump is floating the idea of more blackwater war criminals running amok in Afghanistan
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 18:38 |
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really queer Christmas posted:hmm Nixon seems bad then, maybe nyc dsa shouldn’t have endorsed her then NYC DSA specifically did not endorse Cynthia Nixon and stated that they only endorse socialists They did say she was clearly the better choice of the two primary candidates but idk I guess that is not the same thing as an endorsement. She really hosed herself horribly by picking a fight with the MTA unions though jfc. I hope that mistake was not a fatal one.
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 18:58 |
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NYC DSA absolutely did endorse her, unfortunately
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIOBPR6V7W4
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GalacticAcid posted:NYC DSA absolutely did endorse her, unfortunately i thought some branches voted to endorse but the citywide org as a whole didn't
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i thought some branches voted to endorse but the citywide org as a whole didn't nope you got it backwards at least my branch (North Brooklyn) voted against endorsement
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Calibanibal posted:IMHO: ghouls are worse than goblins To be fair, both games were pretty difficult to begin with — not to mention that you have to essentially beat them twice.
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goblins never come alone though. they come in packs
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# ? Aug 17, 2018 19:36 |
https://twitter.com/peterfeld/status/1030474020976844805
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this is embarrassing as heck and dems deserve all of the misfortune
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i thought some branches voted to endorse but the citywide org as a whole didn't Barry Convex posted:nope you got it backwards Barry is correct. Queens voted No as well, as did I think Bronx Upper Manhattan Manhattan voted yes and the city wide org voted yes, including with the votes of representatives of my branch (Queens). I guess I should note that I decided to officially leave the organization after that
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why would they forget 2020? they’re gonna go hard for the succ voters and establishment support.
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