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turboraton posted:Nahaz is the greatest proof that one is it's own worst enemy. He's the EE of the 'talent' side of Dota, and frankly he is the perfect heel and I hope he never leaves or changes - pretty sure only someone worse would fill the vacuum left by nahaz.
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Aug 19, 2018 22:29
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Pinterest Mom posted:the first animal is pangolin, what are the other two pangolin faces don't look anything like his.
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Aug 19, 2018 22:35
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Taffer posted:oh nahaz, it is not social media you do not understand. It's all social interaction, of any kind. He should fit in with most Dota players then 
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Aug 19, 2018 22:36
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nahaz is pretty dumb for someone his age. most people would realize that tweet would read as "valve isn't giving you all the information".
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Aug 19, 2018 22:37
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Super Rad posted:He's the EE of the 'talent' side of Dota, and frankly he is the perfect heel and I hope he never leaves or changes - pretty sure only someone worse would fill the vacuum left by nahaz. I'm insulted for EE that you'd compare him to Nahaz
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Aug 19, 2018 23:13
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Reality Loser posted:
They roped it off? Weird. You could go up and lick it all you wanted in Seattle. Also, lol that they're just reusing their one statue. Gotta save that money!
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Aug 19, 2018 23:43
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original thread content do not steal
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Ojetor posted:how can a fifty-year-old college professor be this much of a drama queen lol
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Aug 20, 2018 00:35
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 Here's the schedule
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Aug 20, 2018 00:53
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:
As opposed to what, throwing that fine piece of work into the fire?
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Aug 20, 2018 01:02
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what a bizarre set up. why have bo1s in the tournament at all.
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Aug 20, 2018 01:05
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Gotta make some time for those actionslacks segments bro
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Aug 20, 2018 01:22
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breaks posted:Gotta make some time for those Pyrion Flax segments bro
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Aug 20, 2018 01:57
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Groovelord Neato posted:what a bizarre set up. why have bo1s in the tournament at all. they had their chance By making upper bracket Optic has guaranteed itself ~1 million dollars in prize money total this season, which seems p good for them.
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Aug 20, 2018 02:32
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Dude media day was such a trip WHOS READY FOR TI
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Aug 20, 2018 04:52
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to whoever wanted the guinsoo post
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Aug 20, 2018 05:02
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12 hours boys
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Aug 20, 2018 06:13
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They should really make all those prize figures round numbers and cut the remainders for even out the bottom placements a little. 10 mil bucks instead of 10.8 as a grand prize probably wouldn't have any of the winners complaining very much, and could have 9-16th place essentially earning 20k more bux per player. Gotta spread some of the wealth to the little guys.
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Aug 20, 2018 06:15
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Does going into grand finals in the winners' bracket confer any advantage?
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Aug 20, 2018 07:16
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BabyRyoga posted:They should really make all those prize figures round numbers and cut the remainders for even out the bottom placements a little. 10 mil bucks instead of 10.8 as a grand prize probably wouldn't have any of the winners complaining very much, and could have 9-16th place essentially earning 20k more bux per player. Valve has put themselves into a dumb position where if the crowdfunded grand prize doesn't grow every year then it looks like their game is dying. And also they started off trying to be the biggest grand prize ever so the initial payout structures of TI1 & 2 were even worse, but now they are in a position where they can barely improve it without making it seem like the scene is moving backwards. Mechafunkzilla posted:Does going into grand finals in the winners' bracket confer any advantage? Nope, other than playing fewer series / playing in only one elimination series.
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Aug 20, 2018 07:21
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Does going into grand finals in the winners' bracket confer any advantage? They play fewer games and get almost a full day to rest up/prepare. Advancing to the GF from the loser's bracket means playing 2 series on the final day (Loser's Final and Grand Final)
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Aug 20, 2018 07:30
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Usually the lower bracket finals and the grand finals are on the same day, right? Lower bracket team could face playing eight games straight. Welp beaten
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Aug 20, 2018 07:31
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Glory to Italia!
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I kinda wish the upper bracket team got selection priority (choice of pick order/side in games 1/3/5), but apparently everyone's of the opinion that "not having to play an elimination Bo3 in the morning just to get to the grand final" is enough of an advantage.
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Aug 20, 2018 07:50
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Super Rad posted:Valve has put themselves into a dumb position where if the crowdfunded grand prize doesn't grow every year then it looks like their game is dying. And also they started off trying to be the biggest grand prize ever so the initial payout structures of TI1 & 2 were even worse, but now they are in a position where they can barely improve it without making it seem like the scene is moving backwards. Yeah, but restructuring the distribution of the prize doesn't depreciate the value of the total prize pool. It still ends up being an overall larger prize pool than previous years. If the scene moving backwards were a legitimate fear, there are also fail-safes (such as restructuring the profit to prize pool ratio slightly) that could be worked in. Paying out better to teams that didn't place as well also reinforces the scene, as it gives more incentive for tier 2 and 3 teams to compete. Overwatch has this problem, where you are either in the big game, or the no game.
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Aug 20, 2018 09:04
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BabyRyoga posted:Yeah, but restructuring the distribution of the prize doesn't depreciate the value of the total prize pool. It still ends up being an overall larger prize pool than previous years. If the scene moving backwards were a legitimate fear, there are also fail-safes (such as restructuring the profit to prize pool ratio slightly) that could be worked in. Paying out better to teams that didn't place as well also reinforces the scene, as it gives more incentive for tier 2 and 3 teams to compete. Overwatch has this problem, where you are either in the big game, or the no game. Top heavy prize pools in esports are pretty much the norm for some stupid reason. I think the winner of this year's EVO smash tournament split his payout with 5/7th place since they got like 130$.
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Aug 20, 2018 10:08
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Arzachel posted:Top heavy prize pools in esports are pretty much the norm for some stupid reason. I think the winner of this year's EVO smash tournament split his payout with 5/7th place since they got like 130$. But for fighting games the total yearly prize pool is at least somewhat evenly spread along the year across many events, EVO is not like TI that accounts for 90+% of all Dota 2 earnings. For Street Fighter EVO isn't even the highest paying single tournament.
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Aug 20, 2018 11:13
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Double Bill posted:But for fighting games the total yearly prize pool is at least somewhat evenly spread along the year across many events, EVO is not like TI that accounts for 90+% of all Dota 2 earnings. For Street Fighter EVO isn't even the highest paying single tournament. On the other hand the prize pools in dota are generally way higher than in fighting games even in non-TI tournaments
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Aug 20, 2018 11:19
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Andrast posted:On the other hand the prize pools in dota are generally way higher than in fighting games even in non-TI tournaments Sure, but those prizes are split at least 5-ways (probably more like 7, with the coach and team getting their cuts). Though per-player cut is still probably notably more than in fighting games, Dota 2 being a much bigger sponsor business.
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Aug 20, 2018 11:36
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Here we go, the yearly Dota and fighting game comparisons. Which one of you is going to suggest bracket resets again
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Aug 20, 2018 12:53
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Incoherence posted:I kinda wish the upper bracket team got selection priority (choice of pick order/side in games 1/3/5), but apparently everyone's of the opinion that "not having to play an elimination Bo3 in the morning just to get to the grand final" is enough of an advantage. it is since they should just be seeding the teams in a normal bracket after the group stage. the advantage should be playing the weaker teams on the way to the finals.
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Aug 20, 2018 13:07
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Juggernaut is the Ryu of Dota
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Aug 20, 2018 13:35
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Juggernaut is the Ryu of Dota Whose Ken?
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Aug 20, 2018 13:36
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Antimage
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Aug 20, 2018 13:38
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Mirana is the 3rd Strike Chun-li of this meta. Broken heroes are fun
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Aug 20, 2018 13:46
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Pudge is Scorpion. Because of the hook. They both grab people from a distance. God, aren't fun video games just the best you guys? I love when Pudge is like "Get over here."
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Aug 20, 2018 14:14
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I don't pay attention to Twitter and haven't kept up with this thread for a few days, what is Nahaz talking about in that tweet?
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Aug 20, 2018 14:15
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nahaz tweeted out that there were two sides to every story after the punishment for using two coaches for drafting was handed down. he meant it completely literally but anyone with half a brain knows when someone says "we haven't heard both sides" they mean the side we have heard from isn't being entirely truthful. then he whined when people dogpiled him for reading the tweet the way most people would.
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Aug 20, 2018 14:26
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I'm the 66% chance of liquid winning their first game and 65% chance of optic dropping to the loser's bracket
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Aug 20, 2018 15:28
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Does the opening ceremony stuff go live in an hour-ish so the games actually start when they say they are or is the start time of the first game actually the start of the ceremony?
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Aug 20, 2018 15:47
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im ready for kaci tbh
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IcePhoenix posted:Does the opening ceremony stuff go live in an hour-ish so the games actually start when they say they are or is the start time of the first game actually the start of the ceremony? https://twitter.com/wykrhm/status/1031461640980447232 from as close to an official source as we have, seems like the ceremony starts at 1pm eastern time though someone who is at the event might know better
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