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Album-oriented rock is where rock began its long slow death and greatest hits albums at least let people hear singles instead of aimless filler
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 17:26 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 12:17 |
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CheesyDog posted:Album-oriented rock is where rock began its long slow death and greatest hits albums at least let people hear singles instead of aimless filler Concept albums rule.
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 17:31 |
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I like cohesive albums and I think that when albums have a well-executed concept, they tend to rule pretty hard (like My Arms, Your Hears and Still Life from Opeth).
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 17:50 |
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Classic rock can be really overexposed because of radio and bars. I used to work at a bar and how do you think I feel about Queen after hearing their well composed and well written most popular 10 songs 1000,000000,000000,0 00000,00,00, 0,0,0, 0,,0,000000000000000000000 times?
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 18:40 |
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Salt Fish posted:Classic rock can be really overexposed because of radio and bars. I used to work at a bar and how do you think I feel about Queen after hearing their well composed and well written most popular 10 songs 1000,000000,000000,0 00000,00,00, 0,0,0, 0,,0,000000000000000000000 times? I couldn't stand Led Zeppelin for a couple years after I got out of college.
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 18:45 |
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Can’t decide if it’s stupid or awesome. Leaning towards stupid. https://reverb.com/item/11843055-sleek-guitar-bass-combo-single-neck-2010-white-gloss
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 20:16 |
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Krustic posted:Can’t decide if it’s stupid or awesome. Leaning towards stupid. It's stupid as gently caress, holy poo poo that neck would be awful to play.
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 21:05 |
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Hint: When doing a "2-instruments-in-1" type of deal, you want to make it as functional as possible. For all their unwieldiness and real-estate, double-necks work fine for the most part.
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# ? Aug 21, 2018 21:17 |
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I saw one of these at guitar center a while back, this is the way to do the double-sided-double-neck and have it actually kinda work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxM61OTV6zM
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 02:07 |
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Still dumb as hell but at least it doesn't have a square neck that's an inch and a half thick.
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 02:12 |
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CheesyDog posted:Album-oriented rock is where rock began its long slow death and greatest hits albums at least let people hear singles instead of aimless filler I’m genuinely curious about this, what format do you think would have worked better? I know that sounds defensive, but I don’t mean it that way. I mean I guess I’ve never really questioned the Industry mandated nature of releasing music in “album” format as up for debate. The necessity of the album format seems pretty easy to understand when you factor in real world constraints like the high cost of studio time, economics of print media overhead cost and people feeling like they’re not getting their money’s worth without 40 minutes to an hour of content per purchase, etc. I suppose by contrast, it seems like the “purest“ kind of music wouldn’t necessarily be released in the form of albums, but rather the production and release of music would be more likely follow when inspiration strikes the musician, so music releases might instead happen in smaller parts, which might look like like many singles released over time, or a small group of 2 - 5 songs released at once covering a cohesive theme as opposed to The musician being forced to fill an album’s worth of time. I mean nowadays, with streaming services operating the way they do and the fact that building a music studio is more affordable than ever before, often more affordable than many instruments it will record, right now is probably the closest we’ve ever been to being able to record and distribute music at the same pace and frequency we can create it. But all of this stuff wasn’t available until quite recently. What format do you think would have worked better for rock or pop than the album over the past six or seven decades?
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 02:51 |
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GreatGreen posted:I’m genuinely curious about this, what format do you think would have worked better? I know that sounds defensive, but I don’t mean it that way. I mean I guess I’ve never really questioned the Industry mandated nature of releasing music in “album” format as up for debate. The necessity of the album format seems pretty easy to understand when you factor in real world constraints like the high cost of studio time, economics of print media overhead cost and people feeling like they’re not getting their money’s worth without 40 minutes to an hour of content per purchase, etc. Eh, partly just trying to shut down Eagle chat with some hot takes so I wasn't being completely serious, BUT I do kind of think the focus on the "serious late 60s/early 70s art album" had a lot of negative consequences for the genre long-term. An example, you can hear the number of covers and reinterpretations drop off the charts steadily as things shifted towards the album format and you lose stuff like Motown trying songs with different artists until they had a great version of the song. You start to get a lot of bloat and self-indulgence (part of that's just the style getting expanded so much so fast), artist output seems to fall off from several singles a year and an album with new and old stuff on it to bands going years between releases, stuff like that. Small bands that could put out some regional singles and build end up stalling out because they don't have a time and resources for a 12-song professional debut. You get this vibe where if an album's not life changing boundary pushing stuff it's not worth anything, and a "greatest hits album" (that has the songs most people will want to hear anyway) is inferior to an album, even if you want to skip half the album tracks. I think an interesting different path that never really got pushed after album formats got big would be the label-specific singles compilations, heck a lot of my favorite songs are stuff from scene compilations or label compilations where the artists only ever had studio time for a few songs.
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 03:24 |
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I think the CD format was a bigger problem because people started feeling cheated with only 40 minutes of music on them; it started introducing bloat to fill time while making it easier to skip said bloat, meaning a lot more crap was put unchecked on albums.
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 05:00 |
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 11:18 |
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At least they had the sense to make it a hardtail. Why did Fender stop making hardtail Strats, anyway? The only current one I can find is a bottom-tier Squier Bullet.
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 11:40 |
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I would buy a CV quality equivalent hardtail Squier Strat so fast tbh
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 11:54 |
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Anime Reference posted:At least they had the sense to make it a hardtail. If a block of wood is good enough for Clapton, it's good enough for you. (Tone block)
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 14:47 |
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Anime Reference posted:Why did Fender stop making hardtail Strats, anyway? The only current one I can find is a bottom-tier Squier Bullet. there's still the robert cray signature model and a bunch of charvels
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 15:41 |
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Jonny Nox posted:If a block of wood is good enough for Clapton, it's good enough for you. tone COINS wrapped in tone tape
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 21:13 |
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2-4 track eps are pretty much the perfect format imo.
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 22:34 |
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*cracks knuckles* albums are top tier perfect eps are pretty close to that level splits are always annoying demos are cool when they’re nasty old school metal demos there are my thoughts on this boring derail
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 22:43 |
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Recommend a cab to go with an Ampeg V4
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# ? Aug 22, 2018 23:55 |
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Ampeg 410
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 03:10 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:Ampeg 410 Yep. The best bass rig I’ve ever heard used two of them sitting side by side. Amazing.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 03:14 |
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Sorry, guitar cab for an Ampeg V4.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 11:19 |
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CheesyDog posted:Sorry, guitar cab for an Ampeg V4. I recommend one of my two 1960a 4x12s which you can pick up in the DC area at a very reasonable price.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 11:32 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:Ampeg 410 As a bass dilettante, it's interesting to see bass amps come and go as the latest fad. Seems like these were the bass amps everyone had to have (and then get rid of) since the late 80s.... - Peavey Mk 3, 4 - Trace Elliot (with the neon lights!) - SWR - the return of the Ampeg SVT - generic power amps with bass preamps, racks everywhere - David Eden heads and nowdays to the MarkBass ultralight stuff. Where to next?
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 11:41 |
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CheesyDog posted:Sorry, guitar cab for an Ampeg V4. Marshall 1960a or b
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 12:34 |
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Gold hardware always looks so corny.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 14:48 |
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New New Fresh posted:Stupid music poo poo content: Here's my soviet guitar I overpaid for a few years back. There's a large Facebook group called Awesome Cheap Guitars. If you get in there and post that guitar with your concerns, I guarantee multiple people will give very specific info on that guitar, as well as how to fix it up. If you're interested.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 17:42 |
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OutOfPrint posted:Gold hardware always looks so corny. I want a matte black super strat with gold hardware
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 23:52 |
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 05:07 |
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That's campy as hell. I sorta like it.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 05:38 |
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Wark Say posted:That's campy as hell. I sorta like it. av/post combo really working. It really follows the "Stupid Music poo poo that I actually really want" theme of the thread.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 05:50 |
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Double post because Dave put a couple videos up recently for both aspects of the thread: Stupid cool poo poo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQcHROaeBGQ&t=368s Stupid poo poo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ibbOKL7WY
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 06:00 |
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Chrpno posted:As a bass dilettante, it's interesting to see bass amps come and go as the latest fad. Seems like these were the bass amps everyone had to have (and then get rid of) since the late 80s.... It's all about Barefaced and Vanderkley these days; people have gone right off MarkBass it seems. The colour scheme turned out to be both a blessing and a curse.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 12:40 |
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New New Fresh posted:
"Difficult Soviet guitar that makes clanking noises" is totally my bag, actually. That's pretty drat cool.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 14:33 |
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darkwasthenight posted:It's all about Barefaced and Vanderkley these days; people have gone right off MarkBass it seems. The colour scheme turned out to be both a blessing and a curse. I see, well I'm sure every bass slinger will have one soon, MarkBass will never be talked of again
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 14:43 |
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So I was looking for sound videos of this Mahogany MIJ Offset Telecaster with p90 style neck pickup. ($800) I found WHAT THE gently caress JAPAN??!?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3QbAldg_A
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 20:15 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 12:17 |
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that's more informative and entertaining than 99% of youtube demos
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 21:08 |