|
Who should be the Mod? This poll is closed. |
|||
|---|---|---|---|
| Anidav |
|
14 | 0.14% |
| Dr Spaceman |
|
2 | 0.02% |
| JBP |
|
12 | 0.12% |
| bell jar |
|
1 | 0.01% |
| GoldStandardConure |
|
7 | 0.07% |
| Joseph Stalin |
|
10016 | 99.64% |
| Total: | 10052 votes | ||
|
Thanks, I hate it.
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:07
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 14:48 |
|
|
asio posted:
Nobody is saying that the faiths and their tenets are identical, that's patently absurd without even getting into various sectarian differences. But by the same token it's absurd to deny the Abrahamic faiths have anything in common, and I provided sources from a few people far better qualified than me who agree that if nothing else, it's ultimately the same God. (Comedy answer: Muslims obviously believe in the Moon God.)
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:09
|
|
words
|
Dutton just released full legal advice that he is eligible anyone got a copy?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:10
|
|
|
asio posted:The difference may seem small but on further investigation the implications of the event surrounding the execution of Jesus of Nazareth is what makes the difference. These links you have shared are a literary, not theological reading of the differences. I have already spoken of the Nicene Creed as an example. Christians believe Jesus is God. Muslims believe he is a prophet. Jews reject both interpretations of Jesus. The crucifixion is where the huge gulf of difference lies. These texts you have shared do not address this issue. They look to literary descriptions; what "type" of God God is. This is not the same as describing the nature of God. If Jesus was a prophet, as the Muslims claim, then he is committing heresy against Allah when he says "No one may come to the Father except through me". As already pointed out, Sunni Islam teaches righteousness comes from good deeds and following the Five Pillars. This is in complete contradiction to the protestant doctrine of salvation by faith, or more broadly, of the "fallen nature" of humans. I think I'll side with the studied opinion of the multiple professors of religion previously cited, thanks
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:10
|
|
|
Anidav posted:Dutton just released full legal advice that he is eligible anyone got a copy? Is it signed by Michael Cohen
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:11
|
|
|
Anidav posted:Peter Dutton has just arranged a media event for 10 minutes' time. Is he going to pull his 35 and split for a new election?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:13
|
|
|
What the gently caress was that weak poo poo dutton
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:13
|
|
|
aejix posted:What the gently caress was that weak poo poo dutton
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:13
|
|
|
Shortest presser ever.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:14
|
|
|
Peter's behaviour is very strange
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:18
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/Rob_Stott/status/1032126942609256448?s=19
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:19
|
|
|
aejix posted:Adam bandt on ABC loving unloading with both barrels Yeah I’m a Greens Dude but White Lawyer Man from the party that lost several senators due to ineligibility issues doesn’t have a loving leg to stand on. Also, must be tough for The Glorious Greens Party to keep all its lower house members in line. Oh wait. He’s the sole loving one.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:21
|
|
|
Dude McAwesome posted:Yeah I’m a Greens Dude but White Lawyer Man from the party that lost several senators due to ineligibility issues doesn’t have a loving leg to stand on. Show me on this doll where the Greens member touched you.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:26
|
|
|
Why would Dutton ask for a spill without showing Malcolm his petition?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:28
|
|
|
Anidav posted:Dutton just released full legal advice that he is eligible anyone got a copy? Yeah, but it's just advice. The only opinion that matters in this is the High Court's, and that's where the lawyers will argue.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:28
|
|
|
https://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2015/02/04/julia-gillard-rushed-hospital-after-overdosing-schadenfreude Old but good
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:32
|
|
|
is this poo poo on or what?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:32
|
|
|
I'm just loving this week. I'd die laughing if Dutton becomes PM, only to be thwarted by section 44, and the Libs have to choose a new leader (ScoMo, or for full comedy points, Turnbull again).
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:33
|
|
|
The Before Times posted:I'm just loving this week. You might want to get your will updated and end of life preferences updated, then.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:36
|
|
|
Intoluene posted:Show me on this doll where the Greens member touched you. I dono if you intended for that to be a reference but well done.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:37
|
|
|
Whitlam posted:You might want to get your will updated and end of life preferences updated, then. jokes on u, I was referring to la petite mort
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:37
|
|
|
If Dutton gets thwarted by s44 I think they will just call a snap election.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:38
|
|
|
Dutton's trying to bluff his way into a second spill and Turnbull's having none of it
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:40
|
|
|
THE NUMBERS THE NUMBERS THE NUMBERS THE NUMBERS
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:41
|
|
|
What's the point of resigning from the frontbench if Turnbull hangs on to power? What's the end goal?
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:41
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:42
|
|
|
Dude McAwesome posted:Yeah I’m a Greens Dude but White Lawyer Man from the party that lost several senators due to ineligibility issues doesn’t have a loving leg to stand on. Who bought van badham an account
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:43
|
|
|
canberra rolls everyone around me c.r.e.a.m. get the numbers, dutton dutton spill y'all
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:45
|
|
|
Gridlocked posted:I dono if you intended for that to be a reference but well done. I think you'll find that I rarely know what I'm talking about.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:45
|
|
|
Mr Dutton’s legal advice (posted below) is dated December 4, 2017. The changes to law, which could make Mr Dutton ineligible to sit in Parliament, were brought into effect on July 2, 2018. Constitutional law expert Anne Twomey, from the University of Sydney, writes in The Conversation: “Dutton, as recorded in the parliamentary register of interests, is the beneficiary of a discretionary family trust.” “The allegation is that since July 2, 2018, the trust, through its childcare centres, has agreements with the public service to provide childcare services in exchange for childcare subsidies. “Dutton may argue the childcare centres merely receive the subsidy on behalf of the parents and do not have an agreement with the public service. But if it is found there is such an agreement, it would appear Dutton has a beneficial interest in a trust that has an agreement with the public service, potentially triggering the application of s 44(v).” Federal Labor is pushing for a parliamentary inquiry into Mr Dutton’s decision to intervene and grant visas to two foreign au pairs in 2015. Opposition senator Louise Pratt will try to refer the matter to the upper house’s legal and constitutional affairs committee on Thursday, as Mr Dutton ramps up his bid to challenge Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. If the Senate votes to refer the matter, the inquiry will look into allegations concerning the inappropriate exercise of ministerial powers and report by September 11.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:46
|
|
|
Giant meteor for Canberra. Make it happen.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:47
|
|
|
I literally can't keep up, I just have the abc Facebook message bot attempting to keep me in the loop but it's all very confusing. Try to decipher politics when your mental health is trashed is hard.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:51
|
|
|
The roof is on fire! (More like the whole building at this stage, it just hasn't gotten to the fuel tanks yet)
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:52
|
|
|
drunkill posted:Giant meteor for Canberra. Make it happen. I'd vote for Giant Meteor. I believe in his flatten earth policy.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:52
|
|
|
Whitlam posted:Nobody is saying that the faiths and their tenets are identical, that's patently absurd without even getting into various sectarian differences. But by the same token it's absurd to deny the Abrahamic faiths have anything in common, and I provided sources from a few people far better qualified than me who agree that if nothing else, it's ultimately the same God. It's not that they don't all have things in the past which are common, but the conclusions reached today are different, and are so different, that to try and make them the same for the sake of (???) runs into religious discrimination. It's like saying Australia is the same as the UK because once upon a time we shared the same national objectives. iajanus posted:I think I'll side with the studied opinion of the multiple professors of religion previously cited, thanks Climate change isn't real because I found a dissenting opinion that agrees with me. Or another way: I have a medical illness, so I went to see a plumber for a cure. Please don't fall under the assumption that this is a new argument. There have been many attempts to reconcile the different ideas of how God has been revealed to humans. The differences between the religions is the result and are also the sources available that support my argument. However, since you were so good as to ask: First council of Nicaea (specifically, "homousias" to describe the relationship between Father and Son) : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea Islam's rejection of the death and resurrection and the absence of Pentecost (and therefore the Trinity) : https://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm Yes, there are different religions that share primary sources. No, this does not mean it is the same God. I am also concerned that this attempt to make all religions the same comes from a place counter to the ideals of a cooperative society. Much has been made of the benefits of allowing people to define themselves. If one is to argue against one type of discrimination against Muslims (in this case, using it as a vehicle for racist dog-whistling), it seems counterproductive to discriminate against Islam in another way (that their religion is for naught). To say Islam is the same as Christianity seems to me another way of telling new Australians to "integrate" (whatever that means). If this is not the case then all I am left with is the impression that your (and others) argument is coming from an ideological position, evangelising a religion (or none at all) other than Islam, Christianity or Judaism, which is a different discussion entirely.
|
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:53
|
|
|
ABC reporting Sarah Henderson whoever that is was offered a ministeral portfolio if she switched to Dutton . She said no. ABC also reports Dutton camp has 27 signatures on paper. Channel 7 with David Kosh reports Dutton camp ready to roll Turnbull. Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Aug 23, 2018 |
|
#
?
Aug 22, 2018 23:58
|
|
|
This spill business has lead to me hearing Dutton and Abetz speak far too many times this morning. Down with
|
|
#
?
Aug 23, 2018 00:02
|
|
|
Its happening. Dutton has the numbers is being spread via various sources. Cormann, Cash and Fifield are in the PMO delivering the news to Turnbull.
|
|
#
?
Aug 23, 2018 00:03
|
|
|
asio posted:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but if you want to draw comparisons to climate change, you're the one posting random webpages in response to someone else citing academic sources.
|
|
#
?
Aug 23, 2018 00:05
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 14:48 |
|
|
asio posted:poo poo Yeah not a current event even tangentially. Please take this derail the gently caress out of here.
|
|
#
?
Aug 23, 2018 00:08
|
|