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drrockso20 posted:So I've been hearing good things about one of Osprey's newest games Gaslands, anyone here given it a try? We have a thread about it! Should probably do more gameplay discussion, but the modeling is really fun and people are doing some cool stuff.
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CT failed in pretty much every way an RPG can fail - The system was irretrievably broken (unbalanced and throwing out Murphy's Rules candidates on every page) - The system ran at multiple levels (you could play a trenchcoated investigator or the pilot of a 60 foot tall mecha) with no idea of how to integrate them - The projected future setting was full of incredibly dumb howlers - The adventures were the worst kind of 1990s bullshit, essentially railroaded theme park rides where the PCs watched the metaplot play out ...and then you add the rape rape rape nazi rape and more rape on top of all that. Yeesh.
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Aug 24, 2018 15:02
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Ghost Leviathan posted:For a setting that's meant to be Cthulhu+Evangeleon they managed to include far, far more rape than either so much as alluded to. It's Cthulhu+Evangelion+Guyver+Macross
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Aug 24, 2018 15:34
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Harvey Mantaco posted:Thanks High fantasy and historical
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Aug 24, 2018 16:08
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Are there any recent games in the vein of The Price Of Freedom, ie "your country has been taken over by merciless authoritarian thugs out to destroy everything you hold dear, so it's time to fight back and kick some bad-guy rear end"? I'm preferably after something crunch-light; TPOF's old-school approach of having 17 tables of modifiers to apply to every single shot you fire makes my heart sink.
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Aug 24, 2018 16:14
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Payndz posted:Are there any recent games in the vein of The Price Of Freedom, ie "your country has been taken over by merciless authoritarian thugs out to destroy everything you hold dear, so it's time to fight back and kick some bad-guy rear end"? I'm preferably after something crunch-light; TPOF's old-school approach of having 17 tables of modifiers to apply to every single shot you fire makes my heart sink. Check out Sigmata: This Signal Kills Fascists, that’s its entire premise 
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Aug 24, 2018 16:37
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actually, don't check-out Sigmata. The whole thing is written so cack-handedly that it's frankly an insult to the resistance genre. try Twilight 2000
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Please don't do that, B.
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Payndz posted:Are there any recent games in the vein of The Price Of Freedom, ie "your country has been taken over by merciless authoritarian thugs out to destroy everything you hold dear, so it's time to fight back and kick some bad-guy rear end"? I'm preferably after something crunch-light; TPOF's old-school approach of having 17 tables of modifiers to apply to every single shot you fire makes my heart sink. First of all, never ever listen to Bedladman. Second of all, check out Misspent Youth for a more teenage-centric take on that genre.
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Aug 24, 2018 17:00
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Thanks to my recent YouTube playlist, I’ve taken to brainstorming impressions of a La-Mulana-like hidden temple full of ancient technology and magical OOPArts. Eroded statues as robotic guardians, prayer wheels as TVs ala zoetropes, massive hedge mazes that trace out demon-summoning sigils, messages from sky gods being old broadcasts from planets millions of miles away. I loving love the idea of old poo poo actually being a reflection of our modern selves and finding out why that might be. Man, I can’t wait to get a chance to try it out on players  I wonder what a La-Mulana RPG would be like?
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Pollyanna posted:I wonder what a La-Mulana RPG would be like? Gumshoe system. It's basically the only investigative and puzzle solving system I've ever encountered that works.
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paradoxGentleman posted:First of all, never ever listen to Bedladman. Second of all, check out Misspent Youth for a more teenage-centric take on that genre. I do hear that Sigmata does trip over some things and doesn't get everything right, but I think a lot of games would when dealing with topics that are this sensitive and important. But it's also pretty clear, after looking into the creators and their commentary, that it really was written in good faith and outside of arguments on Something Awful and its sister site 4chan its message seems pretty well received. Honestly, I just find it pretty worrying that Wrath and Glory is #1 on DriveThruRPG while Sigmata is #9. It's more evidence of a strong fascist undercurrent that pervades this miserable hobby.
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Hmmm, you have a point. I guess I’m not as fascinated by the investigation and mystery solving aspects of La-Mulana as a tabletop game, per se; that’d be kind of a pain in the rear end. I’m more interested in the lore, aesthetic, and setpieces for use in telling a story and building a world in a different system.
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You can't make a game about fighting fascism and say that you have to ally with traditionally fascists supporters to make it. Like who even is your opponent if not them?
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Aug 24, 2018 17:28
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You don't have to 'hear' anything about Sigmata. You can read the premise. The factions are 3 fascist aligned factions and tankies. The author got everything wrong. There is no possible way he was acting in good faith.
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paradoxGentleman posted:You can't make a game about fighting fascism and say that you have to ally with traditionally fascists supporters to make it. Like who even is your opponent if not them? The people genociding everyone else. It’s really the thing Sigmata does most poorly, though the game makes it clear that the Factions aren’t part of the Resistance, and are at most your allies of convenience united by mutual disgust over the people in power. They are trying to coopt you and look after their own interests as you use them. That isn’t that unprecedented, a lot of people wanted Assad gone, including ISIS. Really, if I were doing it I would’ve just been made an optional part of the game; a source of potential help and just as many problems. Making them a required part of the game was a bad idea, you should totally have the option to flip them off and struggle on your own, but at the very least the game makes clear they’re not your friends and can be just as bad as the people you’re deposing if you’re not careful.
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I went and pre-ordered Unity. Here's a thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3866826
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Had a quick look at what the creator had to say about Stigmata on Reddit and elsewhere. 1: the stuff about the "ethical insurgency" tells me it's complete fantasy (I wanted more French Resistance loving up the Milice, Wehrmacht and SS than "ooh no, if we hurt a fascist when he's out of uniform we're as bad as they are!" hand-wringing), and 2: it's alt-history cyberpunk! Should have started with point 2, really - not what I was after. Edit: it's also superheroes and uses dice pools! Absolutely not what I was after (dice pools ain't my thang). Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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Aug 24, 2018 19:23
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Hey, did anyone get Hardback and does it actually improve upon Paperback?
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Aug 24, 2018 19:35
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Sigmata WW2 expac as you play as the heroic OUN and Forest Brothers resistance fighters against the authoritarian invaders from Russia.
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Aug 24, 2018 19:39
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Hedningen posted:We have a thread about it! Thanks
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Moriatti posted:Hey, did anyone get Hardback and does it actually improve upon Paperback? i've heard it does but haven't played it myself.
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Payndz posted:Are there any recent games in the vein of The Price Of Freedom, ie "your country has been taken over by merciless authoritarian thugs out to destroy everything you hold dear, so it's time to fight back and kick some bad-guy rear end"? I'm preferably after something crunch-light; TPOF's old-school approach of having 17 tables of modifiers to apply to every single shot you fire makes my heart sink. I’ll second Misspent Youth, and put forth Spire as a more fantasy take on the same subject.
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Meinberg posted:I’ll second Misspent Youth, and put forth Spire as a more fantasy take on the same subject. Both of these are good, and I got the Misspent Youth paperback and Sell Out With Me collection as a gift from a friend and it's great.
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the bad faith poster defending the bad faith game, im fuckin gobstopped
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Alaois posted:the bad faith poster defending the bad faith game, im fuckin gobstopped The only people even remotely as angry as you about Sigmata are the literal rpg fascists.
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I don't think anyone is angry so much as awestruck at how idiotic it is.
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food court bailiff posted:I don't think anyone is angry so much as awestruck at how idiotic it is. Hopefully! Either way it’s not worth getting stressed over! 
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Meinberg posted:I’ll second Misspent Youth, and put forth Spire as a more fantasy take on the same subject. Spire definitely gets its punk on. And the hardback is gorgeous, very high production quality.
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Sigmata is basically Neoliberal Crime Squad. And it's not so much 'These guys are trying to co-opt you and need to be managed carefully' as 'These guys would definitely be the first to sign up for the blackshirts, why the gently caress is working with them even a viable option'.
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I'm thinking of running a game sometime in the future. Kind of torn between two ideas. What do you think of these ideas? This idea: Battle Century G posted:
Or this idea: Digimon: Digital Adventures posted:
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Sigmata is basically Neoliberal Crime Squad. And it's not so much 'These guys are trying to co-opt you and need to be managed carefully' as 'These guys would definitely be the first to sign up for the blackshirts, why the gently caress is working with them even a viable option'. They do have their reasons for being just as angry as you at the people in power, the fluff establishes that. I don’t know why it’s so difficult to buy into the idea that your ideological opponents can also hate the same things you do, albeit for different reasons. Collectively we’re more or less on the same page as the people on pol in terms of calling this thing an ideologically flawed pile of gently caress, and that’s amazing. AFAICT these two communities are the only ones to regard it so viscerally online. It’s like its very existence is has managed to create its stupid faction system irl  Covok posted:I'm thinking of running a game sometime in the future. Kind of torn between two ideas. What do you think of these ideas? Gundam >>>>> Digimon
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'Pissing off both Nazis and leftists' isn't the good thing you and establishment Democrats seem to think it is.
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Actually if two people or groups complain about something it’s for the same reason and they’re equal in every way.
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Bedlamdan posted:Gundam >>>>> Digimon I'm going to make the controversial statement that season 3 of Digimon can compete. Tamers was a legit series on its own merits.
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Digimon has better videogames than Gundam
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Covok posted:I'm going to make the controversial statement that season 3 of Digimon can compete. Tamers was a legit series on its own merits. Tamers is alright. Definitely not as good as Digimon Adventure or Digimon Adventure Tri, though.
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Plutonis posted:Digimon has better videogames than Gundam That's a low bar to beat. Gundam is not known for having good video games. And the games are also very weird. I'm reading a let's pay on the let's play archives where they just do a post-apocalyptic generic jrpg plot for some stupid reason. Like I said the games are Gundam are weird. I suppose the games for Digimon are weird too. Digimon World 1 is a Tamagotchi simulator, Digimon World 2 is a dungeon crawling game, Digimon World 3 is a jrpg, and Digimon World 4 is a action RPG. And that's not even getting into the rest which include Smash Brothers clones. But it is overall a better play experience. King of Solomon posted:Tamers is alright. Definitely not as good as Digimon Adventure or Digimon Adventure Tri, though. Tri has issues. But Digimon Adventure one is very solid.
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Covok posted:Tri has issues. But Digimon Adventure one is very solid. Digimon Tamers also has issues. I am curious what you don't like about Tri, though, I've really enjoyed it so far.
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