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Moltke: May 13, 2009

Real hurthling! posted:

"america was never that great."

-andrew cuomo

how is this clown still governor

# ? Aug 16, 2018 03:51

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# ? May 17, 2024 23:11

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

Moltke posted:

how is this clown still governor

our state's electorate is one of the dumbest in the country

# ? Aug 16, 2018 03:53

Moltke: May 13, 2009

get that OUT of my face posted:

our state's electorate is one of the dumbest in the country

and our party apparati are some of the most corrupt

# ? Aug 16, 2018 03:55

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

basically we're a red state when it comes to one-party dominance and sheer stupidity of the voters, except we're a blue state. i heard an anecdote saying one-party politics as bad here as it is in kentucky and i tend to agree

the voters aren't as moronic in NJ because christie wouldn't have been given a third term if he could have run for one, but the democratic machine is even worse

# ? Aug 16, 2018 04:30

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Kentucky is not really a one party state, only recently did the Dems lose the statehouse and governors mansion. They have attorney general and might make a decent run this fall tbh

# ? Aug 16, 2018 04:35

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

GalacticAcid posted:

New York is not really a one party state, only recently did the Republicans lose the senate (and get it back!) and governors mansion. They might make a decent run this fall tbh

# ? Aug 16, 2018 05:39

Mechafunkzilla: Sep 11, 2006; If you want a vision of the future...

get that OUT of my face posted:

good profile on Eric Adams, who should never be mayor

The article's okay, but the single comment by a profoundly insane person is way better

# ? Aug 16, 2018 06:29

RadiRoot: Feb 3, 2007

Should I register as democrat for primaries? I'm in cny.

# ? Aug 16, 2018 06:53

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Mechafunkzilla posted:

The article's okay, but the single comment by a profoundly insane person is way better

Wow.

# ? Aug 16, 2018 06:58

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Radirot posted:

Should I register as democrat for primaries? I'm in cny.

If you�re already a registered voter in New York State, it�s too late to register for the primaries. Sorry.

# ? Aug 16, 2018 06:59

Egg Moron: Jul 21, 2003; the dreams of the delighting void

I am pissed that Cuomo is going to win this drat primary. Probably by a lot of votes. Politics in this state is so loving infuriating.

# ? Aug 16, 2018 13:11

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

Edit: jesus christ I completely misread that post
:morning:

Lawman 0 has issued a correction as of 13:45 on Aug 16, 2018

# ? Aug 16, 2018 13:25

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Yeah, I mean, I�m down with dumping on NY Dems, but holding up NJ as a superior alternative is... it�s some poo poo.

# ? Aug 16, 2018 13:37

RadiRoot: Feb 3, 2007

Real hurthling! posted:

"america was never that great."

-andrew cuomo

He's right but his wording came off to me as an unintended gaffe that he's doubling down on.

# ? Aug 16, 2018 16:31

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

Radirot posted:

He's right but his wording came off to me as an unintended gaffe that he's doubling down on.

of course hes right but he said the quiet part loud

# ? Aug 16, 2018 17:46

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

Mechafunkzilla posted:

The article's okay, but the single comment by a profoundly insane person is way better

i wasn't gonna point that out but it does own

CaptainPsyko posted:

Yeah, I mean, I’m down with dumping on NY Dems, but holding up NJ as a superior alternative is... it’s some poo poo.

i wasn't doing that. it's a lateral move, i was just posting the tradeoff

# ? Aug 17, 2018 02:23

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Remember the Albany County prosecutor moonlighting as a defense brief writer? He was forced to resign.

quote:

Steven Sharp's tenure at the Albany County district attorney's office is over.

And his time at the Albany County public defender's office is just starting.

quote:

Sharp, who was the bureau chief of Soares' General Felony Unit, has been hired as an Albany County assistant public defender. Public defenders represent clients who cannot afford an attorney.

Albany County Public Defender Stephen Herrick, a former longtime county judge, in a phone interview Thursday told the Times Union his office has been down four felony-level assistants. He said he was happy to have the opportunity to hire an attorney of Sharp's caliber.

Herrick said his office would allow some types of outside work that was not permitted in Soares' office. Herrick said he spoke with Soares and Chief Assistant District Attorney David Rossi expressing his interest in hiring Sharp.

quote:

Herrick said Sharp would make substantially less money than he earned at the district attorney's office.

Yeah, I'm sure the pay cut is going to just ravage him. :nallears:

I am willing to bet a little bit of money that he'll be running for office in the next few years. He's already shown some of the necessary chops. :v:

# ? Aug 17, 2018 05:23

Matt Zerella: Oct 7, 2002; Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

does anyone know anything about Brian Barnwell? Queens assemblyman. I see some stuff about affordable housing but can't find much else?

# ? Aug 18, 2018 00:28

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

The jets head office tried to partner with blue lives matter but were denied. Even anti civil rights pigs too good to associate with poor gang green.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 03:19

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

the Times endorsed Zephyr Teachout for AG. that might make the difference in a close race

# ? Aug 20, 2018 19:16

Glambags: Dec 28, 2003

get that OUT of my face posted:

the Times endorsed Zephyr Teachout for AG. that might make the difference in a close race

get hype

# ? Aug 20, 2018 19:49

Chevy Slyme: May 2, 2004; We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Important question:

https://twitter.com/EricFPhillips/status/1031681362175111168

Is... is Bill DeBlasio growing a mullet?

# ? Aug 21, 2018 01:05

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

CaptainPsyko posted:

Important question:

https://twitter.com/EricFPhillips/status/1031681362175111168

Is... is Bill DeBlasio growing a mullet?

gonna need another angle before i can make a conclusive answer

# ? Aug 21, 2018 03:56

Barry Convex: Sep 1, 2005; Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

https://twitter.com/chrisbragg1/status/1032401389849325568?s=21

# ? Aug 23, 2018 14:52

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

irs is going to block ny/nj plans to get around salt deduction cap

# ? Aug 24, 2018 00:46

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Barry Convex posted:

https://twitter.com/chrisbragg1/status/1032401389849325568?s=21

This candidate is definitely going to be independent and will totally go after corruption in the Governor's Mansion. :rolleyes:

# ? Aug 24, 2018 03:37

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

Real hurthling! posted:

irs is going to block ny/nj plans to get around salt deduction cap

party of small government

# ? Aug 24, 2018 05:19

Barry Convex: Sep 1, 2005; Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

man that Tablet hit piece on Julia Salazar is loving gross

# ? Aug 24, 2018 14:38

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

Real hurthling! posted:

irs is going to block ny/nj plans to get around salt deduction cap

Link

# ? Aug 24, 2018 14:43

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

tablet in general is p disgusting

# ? Aug 24, 2018 14:44

KomradeX: Oct 29, 2011

Lawman 0 posted:

Link

It's claiming that she's not actually a Colombian Jewish immigrant or something Bari Weiss from The Times has been hyping it on Twitter

# ? Aug 24, 2018 14:53

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

Lawman 0 posted:

Link

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/08/23/treasury-and-irs-take-aim-at-blue-states-tax-workarounds-in-new-regulation.html

# ? Aug 24, 2018 14:55

Aurubin: Mar 17, 2011

The New York Times posted:

They�re Running for Office. That�s News to Them.

This much is certain: Helen Gambichler is running for office.

She is the Queens Democratic Party bosses� nominee for a spot on a little-known body called the Democratic County Committee.

County committee members are the very blades of grass of grass-roots politics in New York, the worker ants of participatory democracy. There are more than 1,100 Democratic committee members in Queens alone, most representing only a few blocks, all of them unpaid. Collectively, though, they have the power � at least in theory � to choose candidates for higher office and even determine party policy.

There is just one problem: Ms. Gambichler, a 72-year-old retired court clerk, did not know she was running for anything. Nor does she wish to run. �I have no idea what that�s about,� she said.

She had been nominated, without her knowledge, by the borough�s Democratic Party leadership, which is struggling to maintain control after the longtime Queens party chairman, Representative Joseph Crowley, was trounced by the left-leaning insurgent Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a June Congressional primary that sent tremors through the Democratic establishment nationwide.

Ms. Gambichler is hardly alone.

The New York Times called dozens of the Queens party machine�s nominees for county committee. The candidates for 21 seats were running without their consent.

Most of these candidates did not know they were running at all until a reporter told them; two, including Ms. Gambichler, found out when they got letters from the city Board of Elections showing how their names would appear on the Sept. 13 primary ballot. Only four candidates The Times spoke to said they were running on purpose.

The total number of unsuspecting candidates could be considerably higher: Party leaders fielded more than 1,300 nominees, at least a hundred more than in the last race in 2016.

What�s more, the machine is press-ganging nominees even as reform-minded candidates seeking the same entry-level seats at the table, inspired by Ms. Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders, are being disqualified in droves for falling afoul of complex filing rules.

It is not entirely clear why the party would want to populate the committee with people who did not know they were on it. But any seats filled by party candidates would not be filled by insurgents.

Many of the machine�s unwitting soldiers are elderly or in poor health, and were confused or upset to learn of their political careers from a reporter�s phone call.

�There�s no such thing,� said Harold Haber, 94.

�What committee?� asked Bridget Knapp, 74.

�I would never run, never,� said Dorothea Barulich, 74. �I don�t know where they got that from.�

One nominee, Arlene Dudkin-Sachs, 76, said she had moved to Florida two and a half years ago. But it turns out she is already on the committee, having been the machine candidate in 2016, too.

County committee candidates do not appear on a ballot unless they have an opponent. If they are unopposed, nominating papers accepted by the city Board of Elections are all that�s required to put them in office.

Some candidates, like Ms. Gambichler, are running for two county committee seats at once, a situation of questionable legality as they can serve in only one.

In one of Ms. Gambichler�s districts, there is a Democrat who would love to serve. Unlike Ms. Gambichler, she even lives in the three-square-block electoral district in Astoria she seeks to represent and collected signatures from her neighbors.

Her name is Aisha Riaz, and she is a member of the New Queens Democrats, part of the nationwide progressive movement seeking to overhaul what it sees as a moribund Democratic Party.

But Ms. Riaz was disqualified on a paperwork technicality by the Board of Elections. So were more than 60 other New Queens Democrats.

�It�s shocking a little bit,� Ms. Riaz, a 37-year-old lawyer, said when told of her opponent�s involuntary candidacy. �You�d think at least they would find someone who wanted the seat.�

Jesse Rose, the treasurer of the New Queens Democrats, said that the bosses were suffocating the party to save themselves.

�The fact that they�re running candidates who are unaware that they�re even running � against activists who want to be part of the process � is just obscene to me,� said Mr. Rose, who is also a lawyer and Ms. Riaz�s husband.

The Queens County Democratic Party�s executive secretary, Michael Reich, said in a statement: �We are not aware of people being designated without being informed.�

Though the party�s longtime law chairman signed off on nominating petitions for many of the conscripted candidates, Mr. Reich said it was the local clubs and party members who submitted names and that it was �incumbent upon them to determine that the proposed members have no objections to serving.�

Many nominees said they had attended Democratic club meetings in the past and guessed that was how local leaders had found their names.

The position of county committee member dates back to the days before radio and television, when party chiefs anointed �block captains� to get out the vote, said Martin Connor, a former Democratic state senator turned election lawyer.

�It was an important office,� Mr. Connor said. �The local committeeman would put a soapbox on a street corner and make speeches.� An 1898 law allowed any enrolled party member to run for committee in a primary.

On paper, the committees� duties include vetting candidates for judge and for legislative openings that must be filled by a special election, which happen often. A 2017 study found that a third of New York City�s state legislators entered office via special election.

In practice, county committees usually rubber-stamp the leaders� picks. In Queens, the committee meets every two years. Mr. Rose of the New Queens Democrats, who served several terms on county committee, said the meetings typically lasted minutes, were attended by a tiny fraction of members, and consisted mostly of �yea� votes for candidates by acclamation.

The New Queens Democrats� list of proposed reforms does not seem particularly radical. They want regular meetings with more notice, a website that includes contacts for party leaders and closer scrutiny of the candidates that the party endorses.

But those seeking examples of the power county committees can wield need look no further than Manhattan, where renegade Democrats are trying to oust the party chairman, Keith Wright, over a back-room deal he made for a State Senate seat.

Many who want to shake up the system say that the Board of Elections, whose commissioners are also chosen by county political bosses, is part of the problem. Critics say the board makes it unnecessarily complicated to run, in part to discourage newcomers and aid the machine.

In Queens, more than two dozen insurgent candidates had their nominations invalidated by the board for errors on a form called an amended cover sheet.

Last week, a State Supreme Court judge ordered those candidates reinstated, because the sheets were not required in the first place.

The board appealed, arguing that the insurgents were a day late to challenge their disqualifications. As of Thursday, it had succeeded in getting them thrown off again.

�It�s disheartening to learn that the Board of Elections, a body that is supposed to be upholding the law, is willing to go to such great lengths in order to try to keep people from getting on the ballot when the court has ruled that they should be on the ballot,� said Mr. Rose, who represented the insurgents.

A spokeswoman for the board, Valerie Vazquez-Diaz, responded to a request for comment about the criticisms by sending a link to its 26-page petition rules, noting: �They include samples of all necessary forms.�

Meanwhile, Ms. Gambichler said she called the board last month to de-nominate herself, to no avail. �They said �We looked into it, it�s a mistake,�� and told her it was being taken care of, she said. But as of Wednesday, weeks after the deadline for filing to run had closed, she was still a candidate for two seats.

While there are many ways to violate election law, running candidates without telling them is not one of them, according to the State Board of Elections, which oversees the city board.

�No violation,� wrote John Conklin, a state board spokesman. �They can decline the nomination within four days of its having been filed.�

But most of the unwitting candidates said they received no notification, making it impossible for them to decline in time.

If someone winds up on county committee and does not want to serve, Mr. Conklin wrote, they can resign �and the chair can fill the vacancy at the organizational meeting.�

Notwithstanding the state board�s position, in 1978, a state appellate court ruled that �a fraud was committed on the enrolled voters of the party� when candidates were run without consent.

Complaints about nonconsenting candidates crop up with some regularity. In 2016, an unsuccessful lawsuit in the Bronx alleged, among other things, that the party ran dead people for some seats.

Mr. Rose said he would like to represent unwitting Queens candidates in a similar suit.

But one of them, Kathleen Dunphy, in her 80s and homebound, expressed little interest in fomenting rebellion.

�As long as it�s not costing me money, that�s O.K.,� Ms. Dunphy, said of the county committee post.

�All I know is that whatever it is, I won�t be there.�

New York is a bastion of fair, progressive democratic rule.

Aurubin has issued a correction as of 18:21 on Aug 24, 2018

# ? Aug 24, 2018 18:18

Grondoth: Feb 18, 2011

It's totally legal to nominate someone who doesn't know they're running, apparently

# ? Aug 24, 2018 18:19

Scrub-Niggurath: Nov 27, 2007

the Democratic Party is seeing an unprecedented surge in activity and they�re actively doing everything in their power to stop it lol

# ? Aug 24, 2018 18:59

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

Barry Convex posted:

man that Tablet hit piece on Julia Salazar is loving gross

don't link it and give Tablet the dignity. it's a vile even by their standards. i'm in the DSA Jewish Solidarity Caucus Discord and they're furious about it

Aurubin posted:

New York is a bastion of fair, progressive democratic rule.

this is true in much of Brooklyn as well, it's just that NKD and the Rep Your Block campaign have cut into its prevalence. at the start of the campaign this year, one of our assembly district organizers talked with someone on county committee who had no idea she was on. it's strongest in the 51st AD- of the 80-some odd people getting primary challenges across the borough, a quarter of them are there. it's Felix Ortiz's district and his female district leader (also has a challenger) has no presence whatsoever

i heard that Queens has an NKD equivalent but i'm not sure where they are in terms of getting established

# ? Aug 24, 2018 20:25

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Speaking of, I was looking for someone to do a medium-effort post providing a guide to Jewish publications for the Periodicals thread. I�m going to do a guide to Catholic ones at some point altho I�m not religious and haven�t been since I was a child basically.

# ? Aug 24, 2018 20:29

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

get that OUT of my face posted:

don't link it and give Tablet the dignity. it's a vile even by their standards. i'm in the DSA Jewish Solidarity Caucus Discord and they're furious about it

I was ready to hate it because it's Tablet, but is anything there factually wrong? Changing your views of Israel/Palestine dramatically after visiting there is entirely reasonable, but are they lying when they say that she seems to have kept changing her story about her background?

# ? Aug 25, 2018 02:38

Barry Convex: Sep 1, 2005; Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

https://twitter.com/salazarsenate18/status/1033167988684468224?s=21

# ? Aug 25, 2018 03:16

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# ? May 17, 2024 23:11

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I was ready to hate it because it's Tablet, but is anything there factually wrong? Changing your views of Israel/Palestine dramatically after visiting there is entirely reasonable, but are they lying when they say that she seems to have kept changing her story about her background?

sure seems like it. you can read the statement she put out in the post above mine- among other things, she says that she was born in Miami but spent a lot of time between NYC and Colombia. all of the lines of attack against Salazar stem from the fact that she wasn't the same politically in college as she is now, which applies to practically everybody

it's weird that they mentioned they talked to her brother, who was surprised that she was running for state office. that raises the question of whether they're still in contact with each other, and if not, why they're not

# ? Aug 25, 2018 04:19

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