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Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002


I did a thread on this claim, and other like it:

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1033447764963876864

The short version is the Russian MoD has repeatedly claimed chemical attacks are being prepared, and they never happen. It's a bit of pre-emptive propaganda for when a chemical attack does happen (if it does).

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HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Brown Moses posted:

I did a thread on this claim, and other like it:

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1033447764963876864

The short version is the Russian MoD has repeatedly claimed chemical attacks are being prepared, and they never happen. It's a bit of pre-emptive propaganda for when a chemical attack does happen (if it does).

they're getting awfully specific with their time frame tho

https://www.rt.com/news/436876-idlib-fake-chemical-attack/

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Brown Moses posted:

I did a thread on this claim, and other like it:

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1033447764963876864

The short version is the Russian MoD has repeatedly claimed chemical attacks are being prepared, and they never happen. It's a bit of pre-emptive propaganda for when a chemical attack does happen (if it does).

That's why I didn't post that tweet when I first saw it, but if we're just posting official Russian claims uncritically it's a good recent example of it just being a misinformation campaign on their end.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

It's worth tracking these things even if its just to see the patterns of behaviour that are repeated by the Russian government, which happens more than people realise. A big favourite is straight up recycling internet theories when attacks do happen without referencing the original source.

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1031935357724459008

So what's everyones opinion of Pakistan's new PM? Neocons and the usual Washington crowd seem to hate him.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018

Sinteres posted:

That sounds super fake. Russia's been freely bombing in Idlib whenever they've felt like it anyway, so why wouldn't they just bomb the gently caress out of these guys if they see them organizing? If it does turn out to be real though, good--Nusra had short-term success by breaking the siege of Aleppo the first time they tried something like this, but the second time was considerably less successful, and in both cases concentrating their forces for open assaults left them vulnerable to being destroyed by superior firepower. Really though this has phantom army written all over it given that the SAA has been openly building forces in the area for weeks now.

The Russians lie all the drat time so I really doubt this. Although if these retard Salafis want to go ahead with it be my guest; it will be the end of them - and hopefully the remainder of the opposition can be finished off as well.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Ego-bot posted:

Neocons and the usual Washington crowd seem to hate him.

That's one point in his favor, then.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Imran Khan looks like if Gaddafi and Sarkozy stepped into a teleportation device together.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Ego-bot posted:

https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1031935357724459008

So what's everyones opinion of Pakistan's new PM? Neocons and the usual Washington crowd seem to hate him.

He's in bed with China.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Ego-bot posted:

https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1031935357724459008

So what's everyones opinion of Pakistan's new PM? Neocons and the usual Washington crowd seem to hate him.

I hope this means he's going to clamp down on the ISI funding various Taliban types.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Conspiratiorist posted:

He's in bed with China.

Then again, who isn’t?

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I hope this means he's going to clamp down on the ISI funding various Taliban types.

Hahahahahaha


He'd have to burn down Quetta then

Let's not forget that over 100,000 Pakistani soldiers fought and trained alongside the Taliban after they kicked out Hekmatyar. They might have stopped serving as the Taliban's air force or sending convoys of artillery, fuel and weapons but those ties go deep.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Aug 26, 2018

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Like I'm not trying to say that the US hasn't done loving awful things in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but this guy's "Plucky Little Pakistan" act is aggravating considering how, for instance, the Pakistani military literally sheltered Osama loving bin Laden for almost a decade.

Of course, that's assuming it's for anything other than domestic consumption. He's probably got to say something like that to his voters.

Sergg
Sep 19, 2005

I was rejected by the:

Likely the rebel forces in Idlib are digging in and preparing for a defensive action, since the Syrian government has been building up for a massive offensive in the area for weeks. The United Nations estimates there will be hundreds of thousands of casualties and mass indiscriminate shelling and bombing of civilian neighborhoods alongside mass civilian reprisals against the inhabitants of Idlib, who number in the millions now that so many refugees have fled there.

Regardless of what HTS/JAN says, there's also still a lot of infighting between rebel groups in Idlib and they are definitely not unified as they would like you to believe. Residents report regular gunfire and carbombs at night.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Conspiratiorist posted:

He's in bed with China.

Which isn't necessarily unreasonable. China's very interested in gaining influence among A) current or former US allies and B) neighbors of India. Frankly I'm surprised Pakistani leaders weren't cozier with the Yellow Peril before.

especially with the whole impending apocalyptic water crisis thing

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Which isn't necessarily unreasonable. China's very interested in gaining influence among A) current or former US allies and B) neighbors of India. Frankly I'm surprised Pakistani leaders weren't cozier with the Yellow Peril before.

especially with the whole impending apocalyptic water crisis thing

China probably helped them develop nuclear weapons in opposition to US policy so its not like cooperation between the two nations is new. China and Pakistan have had a a pretty solid relationship for a while.

I don't know anything about Pakistan at all I'm afraid so any news that I hear from the country is always strange and confusing.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Which isn't necessarily unreasonable. China's very interested in gaining influence among A) current or former US allies and B) neighbors of India. Frankly I'm surprised Pakistani leaders weren't cozier with the Yellow Peril before.

especially with the whole impending apocalyptic water crisis thing

Oh, I'm not saying it's an irrational choice, nor is it one that you could truly say is worse for the Pakistani people than trying to play nice with the West, given the inevitable confrontation with India. China has been working towards completely encircling India, and the games the latter played in Afghanistan are coming back to haunt them with Khan's Pakistan finally making this a reality.

Squalid posted:

I don't know anything about Pakistan at all I'm afraid so any news that I hear from the country is always strange and confusing.

For context, two thirds of Pakistanis believe the US is the one of the biggest threats to Pakistan, with only India considered the largest (unanimously) enemy of the state. The Bin Laden raid schism between Pakistan and the US led to looking up to China as their new patron superpower, who is now obliging and causing a paradigm shift in the geopolitical landscape of the region.

Khan wants an end to the cooperation with the US, an end to the drone campaign, to pull the military out of tribal regions and he wants to close off Pakistani airspace to US support flights into Afghanistan. He's the candidate of Pakistan's military establishment, with a ton of Chinese backing behind him.

He's going to be perfectly happy to let ISI (Pakistan's intelligence apparatus) boost the Haqqani Network in to create rationale for Chinese forces in the country after the US withdraws. The game plan moving froward is then the Chinese start doing patrols in the border lands and tribal regions, the ISI tightens the leash and keeps Haqqani quiet and focused on the other side of the border and suddenly China gets a geopolitical feather in their cap when they start to claim they brought peace to Pakistan, as well as forces in place to oppose India and the US.

Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Aug 27, 2018

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Pakistan and China being tight is nothing remotely new.

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
What is the Pakistani stance on the current situation regarding Xinjiang / the Uighurs?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Squalid posted:

China probably helped them develop nuclear weapons in opposition to US policy so its not like cooperation between the two nations is new. China and Pakistan have had a a pretty solid relationship for a while.

I don't know anything about Pakistan at all I'm afraid so any news that I hear from the country is always strange and confusing.
Check out this book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0077BONPS/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

A while ago when the WH Iran deal subversion was reported, I said it was a matter of time heads would roll in Iran for economic mismanagement. Well, I guess this is more shuffling chairs for now.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-parliament-fight-brawl-finance-economy-minister-masoud-karbasian-a8508811.html

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

guidoanselmi posted:

A while ago when the WH Iran deal subversion was reported, I said it was a matter of time heads would roll in Iran for economic mismanagement. Well, I guess this is more shuffling chairs for now.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-parliament-fight-brawl-finance-economy-minister-masoud-karbasian-a8508811.html

At a certain point it is a matter of firepower, how much Iran can stand against the USD after it has been targeted. At some point there is going to be some splinters flying, the real test is to come though.

Saladin Rising
Nov 12, 2016

When there is no real hope we must
mint our own. If the coin be
counterfeit it may still be passed.

Raqqa has drinking water again, despite Trump hamstringing recovery efforts:
http://sdf-press.com/en/2018/08/water-reaches-all-neighborhoods-of-raqqa/

quote:

Raqqa – Under the guidance of the Civil Council, the Reconstruction Committee is continuing its work in rehabilitating the water lines and connecting them to the city in a healthy and sound manner to ensure that the pure water for the safety of the citizens. After all kinds of pipes and spare parts were available, work became better with alternative to damage.

Director of the Water and Sanitation Project Abdullah Al-Omar told us about the work mechanism of the Reconstruction Committee in Raqqa on the water project. He said that the project was actually started on 2018/6/20 to secure the basic requirements of the project including spare parts and plastic pipes of all sizes and connections and securing sufficient number of workers who are experienced in the extension of water pipes and sufficient vehicles to ensure the cleanliness of the land of mines planted by a terrorist on the roads.

“The water was connected to the main lines and all the neighborhoods of the city on 2018/7/31. Today, the work has begun on repairing the small problems by informing the committee by the people.

Director of the Water and Sanitation Project Abdullah Al-Omar said”: water delivery to the upper floors due to poor water pressure, and he confirmed and said in the coming days it will be increased water pressure to deliver water to the upper floors, when we finish from increasing the pressure, we have finished the last stage and water will be in all Houses of Raqqa.

SDF, Media Center

Kobani had a music convert featuring Belind Ibrahim:
https://twitter.com/Rojavian/status/1033818400823431171

quote:

Tonight was a live concert in #Kobani with Belind Ibrahim

https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/1033789889605775360

quote:

Huge crowd attends Bilind Ibrahim concert in #Kobani #rojava #kurdbibinyek. The city that resisted ISIS is now hosting a popular singer from Duhok province, Kurdistan region of Iraq #basur #stability.

https://twitter.com/VagerSaadulla/status/1033786039205355522

quote:

Very happy to see Bilind Ibrahim, one of the most famous singers in Kurdistan, is having a concert in #Kobani, thousands attended.
Who would think about music concerts in Kobani three years ago.

Some counterfeiters were arrested in Hasakah for making counterfeit US money:
https://twitter.com/VolunteerReport/status/1033732005446467585

quote:

@AsayishMedia arrested 2 criminals who were responsible making false 100$ bills in #Hasakah. The Asayish seized fake money for a value up to $20.000.

Euphrates Dam in Tabqa is looking good:
https://twitter.com/CSP_ERT/status/1033705066614718466

quote:

Remove the rubble from the Euphrates dam in #Tabqa city

Yeah, life is slowly going back to normal in Rojava.

freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/Ahmadinejad1956/status/1034023173048750080

spaceships
Aug 4, 2005

i love too dumptruck

guacamole aficionado
good ol' uncle mahmoud, just out here lookin out for the little guy

e: he's been trying to position himself as a softer, kinder uncle-you-really-like-type of guy and it's hilarious

https://twitter.com/Ahmadinejad1956/status/1034414282350444544

spaceships fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Aug 29, 2018

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

spaceships posted:

good ol' uncle mahmoud, just out here lookin out for the little guy

e: he's been trying to position himself as a softer, kinder uncle-you-really-like-type of guy and it's hilarious

https://twitter.com/Ahmadinejad1956/status/1034414282350444544

I want to see a dopey American sitcom starring him now.

Osama Dozen-Dongs
Nov 29, 2014
I always kinda liked of Mahmoud back in the mid-2000's. He always looked like he was having fun, and also moments away from blaming whatever misdeed he was up to on the Jews.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Osama Dozen-Dongs posted:

I always kinda liked of Mahmoud back in the mid-2000's. He always looked like he was having fun, and also moments away from blaming whatever misdeed he was up to on the Jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoS8DrrlnTQ

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Grape posted:

I want to see a dopey American sitcom starring him now.


♩feels like you're always stuck in second geeeear♩

AND RAHIM MASHAEI

https://mobile.twitter.com/pandagulu/status/1033392311886118912

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Conspiratiorist posted:

He's in bed with China.

He better be with India threatening Pakistan's water supply again. Doing anything but sucking up to the one local hegemony who can and wants to help you would be irresponsible. India, especially with its recent resurgence of fascism, does not care one iota about the struggles of Pakistan.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Turkish backed Al Qaeda demanding to be paid in Syrian pounds.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-currency/falling-lira-hits-syrian-enclave-backed-by-turkey-idUSKCN1LD195

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

"Don't pay me in that unstable currency that has lost 66% of its value in the past 5 years. Instead, pay me in an even more unstable currency that has lost 80% of its value in the past 5 years!!"

What's next, they demand to be paid in Venezuelan Bolivars?

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Saladman posted:

"Don't pay me in that unstable currency that has lost 66% of its value in the past 5 years. Instead, pay me in an even more unstable currency that has lost 80% of its value in the past 5 years!!"

What's next, they demand to be paid in Venezuelan Bolivars?

Beliefs about what might happen over the next five years seem more relevant than what happened over the last five years.

In other news, this will really show the Saudis how serious we are about limiting civilian casualties in Yemen:

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1035170285039874048

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Aug 30, 2018

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

Sinteres posted:

Beliefs about what might happen over the next five years seem more relevant than what happened over the last five years.

In other news, this will really show the Saudis how serious we are about limiting civilian casualties in Yemen:

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1035170285039874048

The blockade and the famine it is causing is creating way more damage and death to the civilian population. We could end the blockade at anytime and it's being totally ignored in the US.

Sergg
Sep 19, 2005

I was rejected by the:

The Syrian rebels in Idlib are destroying all the bridges between them and the government held territory in anticipation of the upcoming offensive by Assad's forces. They're digging trenches, building berms, and heavily fortifying their posts. HTS/JAN is asking the civilian population of Idlib to assist the fighters in the upcoming battle by either joining them, helping the wounded in field hospitals & kitchens, or assisting in the construction of fortifications.

The Syrian government continues to release thousands of death certificates to all the inmates who died in their prisons and concentration camps. Most of the death certificates say "cardiac arrest" or "natural causes" but according to people who survived, the prisoners received very little food or water and were regularly tortured with whips and cigarettes. Many died of diarrhea because of dysentery and inadequate nutrition. The reason they're releasing these death certificates is to settle property/inheritance disputes, cease payments to the deceased, and to just generally clear up the legal limbo that happens when you disappear a hundred thousand people or so.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
That's not my read on it. I think they're going to push most of Idlib through the Turkish border. They're trying to cut peoples ties to Syria. That son you want to find? He's dead. That house you want to return to? It's repossessed. Your hometown that you grew up in? You're wanted there. Just leave and don't come back. Releasing the death certificates is basically closing the book on the history of what was the majority in Syria.

Saladin Rising
Nov 12, 2016

When there is no real hope we must
mint our own. If the coin be
counterfeit it may still be passed.

Sergg posted:

The Syrian government continues to release thousands of death certificates to all the inmates who died in their prisons and concentration camps. Most of the death certificates say "cardiac arrest" or "natural causes" but according to people who survived, the prisoners received very little food or water and were regularly tortured with whips and cigarettes. Many died of diarrhea because of dysentery and inadequate nutrition. The reason they're releasing these death certificates is to settle property/inheritance disputes, cease payments to the deceased, and to just generally clear up the legal limbo that happens when you disappear a hundred thousand people or so.

Volkerball posted:

That's not my read on it. I think they're going to push most of Idlib through the Turkish border. They're trying to cut peoples ties to Syria. That son you want to find? He's dead. That house you want to return to? It's repossessed. Your hometown that you grew up in? You're wanted there. Just leave and don't come back. Releasing the death certificates is basically closing the book on the history of what was the majority in Syria.
These explanations aren't mutually exclusive; honestly I'd say that they're both right.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

International White Helmets expert Vanessa Beeley has the hottest fakes on the upcoming false flag chemical attack:
https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/1035445604216913920
https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/1035444792866562049
https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/1035444512586432512

I'm sure it's not just going to be QAnon level bullshitting and goal post shifting.

SgCloud
Oct 30, 2011
Honestly, why would the rebels even still try to stage false-flag attacks, if the last alleged ones have never led to a military intervention capable of turning the tide of war? The whole logic behind it just astounds me. It would seem far more reasonable to me that they finally started using it against the enemy rather than on their own territory.

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Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

SgCloud posted:

Honestly, why would the rebels even still try to stage false-flag attacks, if the last alleged ones have never led to a military intervention capable of turning the tide of war? The whole logic behind it just astounds me. It would seem far more reasonable to me that they finally started using it against the enemy rather than on their own territory.

It won't make sense because it's half baked propaganda written by idiots, for other idiots to consume.

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