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Ccs posted:It’s sad that with all the cost and effort going into CG movies today they’ll still look dated in 10 years whereas hand drawn movies will be close to timeless. I’ve been using the “Shuffle” feature on my Plex library which is how I ended up watching Atlantis two days ago. Last night, it picked The Incredibles (I don’t know why, I only have like five Disney films on my server). I have to hand it to Pixar/Brad Bird, the design of the world and characters is stylized so well that it still works most of the time, and there’s still some scenes that are really impressive looking. But oooooh man some of the textures are rough, pretty much every flat surface (walls and ground) look incredibly bare. After the plane crashes in the ocean, I had a hard time believing that Pixar looked the hair and the skin of the characters and thought THAT was okay to go ahead with. And some of the miscellaneous background characters are terrifying looking. For its time, The Incredibles was unbelievably impressive, but fourteen years later... yeesh. It’s aged better than other CGI films of its time (again, the style helps a lot) but it was a little strange to watch it in 2018 and try not to think that my Nintendo Switch could live render something that looks better than it. I know that going back and changing movies is something that’s frowned upon almost universally, and I generally agree, but if Pixar were to go back and tweak the lighting and textures for The Incredibles I would honestly be okay with it.
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My anime picks for best animation would be Akira, Spirited Away, or Paprika.
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Aug 25, 2018 18:51
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I feel like for CG it'd be like remasters of video games, like Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask both had graphical updates since their original N64 carnation aged very badly, and less like Warner's attempt to colorize every black and white movie in existence. Though when you think of CG films that aged badly, the one that comes to mind immediately is Jimmy Neutron, it was kind of ugly when it came out, and is just really loving hideous now.
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Aug 25, 2018 18:56
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Any strong opinions on Antz? It's one I thought looked really ugly when I was a kid but maybe I was just too into Bug's Life. Animation notwithstanding, it's probably ground zero for Dreamworks' habit of trying to make the all-star cast as a major part of the movie's appeal, even though it's aimed at kids who probably don't know (I certainly didn't) who Woody Allen, Sharon Stone, Gene Hackman, Sylvester Stallone, Jennifer Lopez, Christopher Walken and so on are and I have a hard time imagining it really added a great deal for parents. Maybe Allen, since his character is just a standard Woody Allen character except as an ant. Shark Tale is the other big example which occurs to me and I think it might have actually worked there since kids liked Will Smith in 2004. Who knows, maybe there were some really odd six-year olds who were thrilled to see a pufferfish who looked like Martin Scorsese and was voiced by him too!
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Aug 25, 2018 19:01
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Robindaybird posted:I feel like for CG it'd be like remasters of video games, like Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask both had graphical updates since their original N64 carnation aged very badly, and less like Warner's attempt to colorize every black and white movie in existence. The video game comparison is an apt one, though with most HD remakes there’s also the excuse of needing old hardware that’s becoming rarer or more expensive to play the original games. By remaking OoT for the 3DS, Nintendo was able to allow another generation of gamers to play the game easily (and make it look better at the same time). But it’s easy to watch The Incredibles in 2018, so I guess it’s hard for Pixar to legitimize making the movie look better since people are fine with renting it for $3 from the iTunes Store or whatever. Apparently they did go back and redo some of the lighting in Toy Story when it got a Blu-Ray release, I don’t have the DVD or Blu-Ray to compare myself.
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Aug 25, 2018 19:06
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Feature films need tons of compositing so is not just a matter of slapping on new textures and lighting and pressing the render button. And I doubt Pixar’s presto software could even open those old scene files done in whatever ancient system they used to use.
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They did re-render it for 4K at some point, as the IMAX release at the double feature was definitely higher resolution. Revealed some more flaws, like how hair attaches to heads that gets blurred away at lower resolutions or on film projections.
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Aug 25, 2018 19:31
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Hey everybody, every first year animation student's favorite Merry Melody is back with a fresh new look for a new generation. This ain't yo daddy's Dover Boys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0U8iL38xfM
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Aug 28, 2018 05:53
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It's kinda funny how even things like the anarchic humour and gleeful absurdity of internet animation can clearly be traced back to Chuck Jones and Tex Avery stuff.
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Aug 28, 2018 07:08
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That's like 98% fantastic but I have to say, it kind of drives me nuts when you have a collab and there's scenes where people just copy the same exact visual gags and staging as the original without adding anything or even really drawing it in a wildly different style.
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Aug 28, 2018 07:14
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Thompsons posted:That's like 98% fantastic but I have to say, it kind of drives me nuts when you have a collab and there's scenes where people just copy the same exact visual gags and staging as the original without adding anything or even really drawing it in a wildly different style. I would agree but they kind of serve the "straight man" role of making the really wacky alternate scenes land harder by contrast.
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Aug 28, 2018 07:28
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https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/1034214807828803584 It's got to be better than Disenchantment (which I thought was "fine"). Very looking forward to this. I wonder if that means that his deal with Fox ended.
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Aug 28, 2018 14:14
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Boy will his face be red when Disney buys Netflix
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Macaluso posted:Boy will his face be red when Disney buys Netflix Man, so we're just accepting that that is a thing that is going to happen, uh? God, I hate this feeling of powerlessness over these titans devouring each other, and growing stronger with each kill. I feel like a person in a crowd scene of a kaiju movie.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Man, so we're just accepting that that is a thing that is going to happen, uh? Disney buying Netflix is unlikely. They already are going to have 2 streaming services.
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Hey everybody, every first year animation student's favorite Merry Melody is back with a fresh new look for a new generation. This ain't yo daddy's Dover Boys. I appreciate the ring Dora squeezes into the tree, and the fact that other trees in the part have similar rings to indicate that they've done this before.
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Aug 28, 2018 18:00
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Having Dan Backslide pull out a dakimakura of Dora instead of a portrait is a great update to that joke.
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Aug 28, 2018 18:22
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IUG posted:https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/1034214807828803584 https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/941553476340916225
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paradoxGentleman posted:Man, so we're just accepting that that is a thing that is going to happen, uh? the difference between kaiju and megacorps is there are friendly kaiju
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Dover Boys feature film when
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Dover Boys feature film when No. Dover Boys cinematic universe.
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Aug 29, 2018 06:23
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Schwarzwald posted:No. Slappy Squirrel prequel where she actually fights the Nazis.
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Aug 29, 2018 06:31
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Slappy Squirrel prequel where she actually fights the Nazis. The Dover Boys are already canon in the Animaniacs world.
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LoseHound posted:The Dover Boys are already canon in the Animaniacs world. That's the joke, yes.
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Aug 29, 2018 16:15
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That's the joke, yes. oh whoops, nevermind. I have watched the reanimated dover boys enough that it melted my brain a bit.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:21
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Has Animaniacs aged well at all? Was it ever good?
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When I watched Animaniacs as a kid (this would've been in the mid-90s when it was being rerun) I had no idea what the joke in the Goodfeathers segments was. When it came out, that would've been when Goodfellas was still fairly new; would most kids watching Animaniacs have been aware enough of Goodfellas to get that the three main characters were riffs on the characters from the movie? How about the "Godpigeon" character who was a big Marlon Brando parody? Not even a Vito Corleone parody, just a Marlon Brando parody.
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Animaniacs came out at a time when there was a pretty significant monoculture: everyone was more or less watching the same news, had read the same books, were watching the same TV and had seen the same movies. If you're checking it out now and you weren't big on 90s Hollywood you'll probably be missing a lot of the humor.
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End of Shoelace posted:Has Animaniacs aged well at all? Was it ever good? Certain aspects have aged poorly ("Helloooooo, nurse!" in particular) but on the whole I think it's still pretty good.
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Speaking of Animaniacs, apparently there's going to be a Hulu-exclusive reboot currently scheduled for 2020.
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Does Shrek still hold up? Edit: Haha, there was an entire Puss in Boots spin-off show on Netflix which had nearly 100 episodes and I've only discovered it existed today. 
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Wheat Loaf posted:Does Shrek still hold up? Eeeeh. It's pretty well-trod ground at this point, but it's not bad, I'd say.
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Shrek is an excellent movie barring one or two painfully dated things in it and if you can divorce how it completey reshaped dreamworks pictures and every other poo poo cgi animated feature, including its sequels, with its influences
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Aug 30, 2018 16:02
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Pop culture took all the worst lessons from Shrek, including its own sequels.
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Aug 30, 2018 16:18
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Is Shrek ground zero for the Dreamworks eyebrow?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pop culture took all the worst lessons from Shrek, including its own sequels. I strongly agree. The core themes and major points it is making are strong and necessary, and everyone just remembered that cartoons could fart now. Then again, I'd say Toy Story is a similar situation--it's a phenomenal film but its lasting influences were the cheapest and most superficial aspects of why it was effective.
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Larryb posted:Speaking of Animaniacs, apparently there's going to be a Hulu-exclusive reboot currently scheduled for 2020. that's gonna be absolutely bizarre.
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Aug 30, 2018 16:24
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Shrek also has this weird subtext of Katzenberg taking shots at his old boss.
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Pick posted:I strongly agree. The core themes and major points it is making are strong and necessary, and everyone just remembered that cartoons could fart now. See FoodFight. Wasn't Mr Potato Head licensed in Toy Story because it was old poo poo no one cared about?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Does Shrek still hold up? no it's super ugly and the good themes are completely overshadowed by awful jokes, pop music, and references for the sake of references
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