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Back Hack posted:The impression I got was the Vault were never out-right suppose to fail, just study various degrees of stress on the residents through unorthodox or with the occasional unethical experiment, which info would then be fed to several space assets for the eventual colonization effort somewhere in the solar system. The major hick-up in the plan is that bombs fell before they able to deploy most of those space assets. It truly depends on the vaults. One of them (can't recall) was set up to fail in a way the main door wouldn't fully close. That was on purpose. I think that's how Necropolis ghouls came about?
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Wrr posted:Ya they should lean more into how much the US loving sucked and was a godawful police state. FO4 opening leans in the horror of a peaceful life being destroyed, but fails to portray just had bad things were. Feel like thats a pretty big important thing that gets forgotten a lot. That and the McCarthy era anti-communist bullshit being bad gets forgotten with the faux-satire Liberty Prime and Mr. Gutsies. Thats why the Vault-Tec experiments should be dumb and clearly pointless, don't allow cruelty to hide behind any semblance of valid science. The story of the Federal Ration Stockpile was pretty grim. People getting gunned down by gleeful national guardsmen for the crime of not wanting to starve to death (those turncoat commie bastards  ).
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Preordering info is a mess. Where can I go for PC that will give refunds if I don't like the beta? That's not a feature I'd ever thought I'd want but here we are.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:08
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Sighence posted:Preordering info is a mess. Where can I go for PC that will give refunds if I don't like the beta? That's not a feature I'd ever thought I'd want but here we are. wonder how that works with it only being playable through their own store
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Rinkles posted:wonder how that works with it only being playable through their own store For Sighence's purposes, it probably doesn't. I can't imagine they'd have any incentive at all to give you back your money if you just don't like the game.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:33
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Keeshhound posted:Actually, it would be pretty fitting if it had turned out that in the fallout universe China succeeded in becoming a proper socialist state and were the unambiguous "good guys" in the conflict. I don't think having a "good guy" in the war that annihilates the world is fitting at all. And clearly it'd be the Soviet Union who succeeded, since they're never mentioned as fighting anyone and are friendly with all to the point a Soviet diplomat can get into Vault 13.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:32
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Rinkles posted:Like that one scene in I.Q. (90s romantic comedy featuring Meg Ryan as Einstein's niece) that was randomly memorable Anything with Tim Robbins is memorable.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:59
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Byzantine posted:I don't think having a "good guy" in the war that annihilates the world is fitting at all. Hence the scare quotes. I really just meant it would be morbidly funny if along with all the other awful poo poo we learned about pre war US it turned out that China's initial involvement in the war had resulted from them having a defensive pact with Canada or something.
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dont be mean to me posted:For Sighence's purposes, it probably doesn't. I can't imagine they'd have any incentive at all to give you back your money if you just don't like the game. I mean that makes sense and ordinarily I'd not even question it, but I saw discussion on this topic where you're only out $5 if you wind up cancelling and I'm willing to risk a cup of coffee on this for finding that out firsthand, and able to convince those I'd play with to do the same. It sounds like that was more hypothetical than I had hoped.
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StandardVC10 posted:I could see the Enclave making a completely unlit Vault in an effort to evolve night-vision or morlocks or something like that. An Enclave squad arrives at Vault 10 after receiving word that the experiments in darkness have yielded the ultimate night-time combatant. The entire population masses at the opening of the vault door waiting to receive their orders. The sudden introduction of light causes the vault dwellers to collapse in seizures and convulsions. The Enclave commander sighs and tells the squad captain to get the miniguns warmed up.
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Aug 29, 2018 22:59
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Byzantine posted:I don't think having a "good guy" in the war that annihilates the world is fitting at all. In the Fallout universe Russia was never nuked durring the war and has since become a futuristic paradise. They have flying cars and houses without dirty leaves inside of them and other things America in it's current state can't even imagine.
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HitTheTargets posted:If I was Todd I would ask you to submit these ideas directly to Bethesda so that, technically, it's not stealing when I use them without paying you. If you were Todd, you wouldn't give a poo poo because you already have the Creation Club, which steals ideas and uses them without paying anyway.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:In the Fallout universe Russia was never nuked durring the war and has since become a futuristic paradise. They have flying cars and houses without dirty leaves inside of them and other things America in it's current state can't even imagine. I like to entertain the idea that there were island civilizations beneath the notice of the nuclear superpowers that went un-nuked. Imagine a Fallout game where you are from one such island - that has been allowed to advance on 2077 tech unfettered for over a hundred years. Your task is to survey the American wastes to see if any threats have emerged, and you end up having to decide whether or not areas like NCR get to continue existing or get nuked from your island home.
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I have a hard time believing the devs didn't watch On The Beach when they were coming up with ideas for the game.
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Super Rad posted:I like to entertain the idea that there were island civilizations beneath the notice of the nuclear superpowers that went un-nuked. Imagine a Fallout game where you are from one such island - that has been allowed to advance on 2077 tech unfettered for over a hundred years. Your task is to survey the American wastes to see if any threats have emerged, and you end up having to decide whether or not areas like NCR get to continue existing or get nuked from your island home. I mean, if you're an island nation that didn't have enough strategic or material value or nukes to be worth nuking, and you survived the climate nightmares leading up to the end of the Old World, and the nuclear winter, and the sea full of 50s science horror giant rubber monsters, and still managed to put together an exploratory corps and enough bombs to end republics... Well, those ifs are the size of the Hollywood sign and on fire, so.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:In the Fallout universe Russia was never nuked durring the war and has since become a futuristic paradise. They have flying cars and houses without dirty leaves inside of them and other things America in it's current state can't even imagine. Nothing but the cleanest piles of random leaves and all their novelty skeletons are kept in comfort instead of lying on dirty mattresses on the ground. I went to a living history museum and they had a family of reenactors temporarily living in a late 18th century one room dirt floor house and it was considerably nicer than anything in fallout.
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I'd like to see the vaults from Philip K Dick's The Penultimate Truth. The premise of The Penultimate Truth was that when the nuclear war started everyone not necessary to actually fight the war filed into the vaults, as per Fallout. But a few hours into the war the essential personnel managed to pull back from the brink, and the nuclear exchange ended up being much more limited. The people up top made peace, realising that, now that the surface population of Earth was just a few thousand, if they all just agreed to pretend to the vault dwellers the war was still going they could have the whole planet to themselves and make the populations of the vaults produce all the stuff they needed. So the surface is populated by a class of nobles with gargantuan estates manned by a robot labour force of converted war bots produced by the vaults, while under the ground most of humanity toils away building weapons and machines and bots for a war that ended a century ago. I'm pretty sure the book must have been one of the prime inspirations for the vaults in Fallout as well as the notion that the vaults were sinister in nature, so it would be cool to see even a modified version of that concept in the games.
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Wrr posted:Ya they should lean more into how much the US loving sucked and was a godawful police state. FO4 opening leans in the horror of a peaceful life being destroyed, but fails to portray just had bad things were. Feel like thats a pretty big important thing that gets forgotten a lot. That and the McCarthy era anti-communist bullshit being bad gets forgotten with the faux-satire Liberty Prime and Mr. Gutsies. Thats why the Vault-Tec experiments should be dumb and clearly pointless, don't allow cruelty to hide behind any semblance of valid science. racism as is currently in the US doesn't seem to be a thing in 2077, except towards Chinese-Americans (possibly other asian-american groups by extension). misogyny is pretty much everywhere, though women appear to have been able to be frontline infantry in the military going off operation anchorage off the top of my head, in fo4 the former is kind of brought up in a few places, the one that readily comes to memory is the south boston checkpoint pre-war where they just are letting everyone drive through with little notice and then when a chinese-american family stops by they order them all out of the car and disassemble the whole vehicle on the road to much protestation to look for contraband for no reason. fo3 has an internment camp in point lookout, with that other one in OWB besides that there's all the rationing indicated going on in boston everywhere, food riots, there's a little side beat in south boston of a detective investigating the military smuggling rations out to the black market who gets killed for his trouble, stuff like that
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...are there not ending slides in 4 or did I miss a denouement after my chosen faction made things explode for thinly justified reasons?
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dont be mean to me posted:I mean, if you're an island nation that didn't have enough strategic or material value or nukes to be worth nuking, and you survived the climate nightmares leading up to the end of the Old World, and the nuclear winter, and the sea full of 50s science horror giant rubber monsters, and still managed to put together an exploratory corps and enough bombs to end republics... Phew, thank God someone was here to shoot down that idea or Bethesda would probably have used it.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:...are there not ending slides in 4 or did I miss a denouement after my chosen faction made things explode for thinly justified reasons? There aren't slides like in the previous games but there should be a brief, ~minute long cutscene that very poorly explains your impact on the wasteland. Don't recall offhand what triggers it any more. Been a while since I last finished the main quest.
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Super Rad posted:I like to entertain the idea that there were island civilizations beneath the notice of the nuclear superpowers that went un-nuked. Imagine a Fallout game where you are from one such island - that has been allowed to advance on 2077 tech unfettered for over a hundred years. Your task is to survey the American wastes to see if any threats have emerged, and you end up having to decide whether or not areas like NCR get to continue existing or get nuked from your island home. There's just one problem with these futuristic islands: you know how in the mainland of America the culture is permanently stuck in the 1950's for no apparent reason? Well, on the future islands the culture is stuck in the 1980's, forever. Hope you like leg warmers and walkmens. rodbeard posted:Nothing but the cleanest piles of random leaves and all their novelty skeletons are kept in comfort instead of lying on dirty mattresses on the ground. The Russian skeletons all have top hats and monocles, it's super classy. A few years back I worked as a carpenter for my college's theater department. The work I did was supper basic, but I'm fairly confident that even with my extremely limited experience I can easily build a house better than 90% of the ones seen in the Fallout. At the very least I would be able to patch a roof and sweep a floor and clear out the dead bodies.
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2house2fly posted:Phew, thank God someone was here to shoot down that idea or Bethesda would probably have used it. Fallout: New Zealand confrimed
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dont be mean to me posted:Fallout: New Zealand confrimed The mutant wildlife of an island with no native terrestrial mammals would be pretty funny. 20 foot tall enraged land parrot comes barreling out of the jungle and eats all your mutfruit plants.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:There's just one problem with these futuristic islands: you know how in the mainland of America the culture is permanently stuck in the 1950's for no apparent reason? Well, on the future islands the culture is stuck in the 1980's, forever. Hope you like leg warmers and walkmens. We already got Yakuza 0.
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OwlFancier posted:The mutant wildlife of an island with no native terrestrial mammals would be pretty funny. have some friends who live next to an emu farm. about every month or so, one of the birds will get the notion in it's head that it can fly, take a runner then launch itself into the air, graceful like. then they smash head first into the fence or ground after about twenty feet or so in the air. this behaviour then repeats in the flock/herd, not all at once mind you, but sequentially over the day. they're also hideous creatures, so it all plays out like some skeksis nine eleven turned comedy. so yea, hosed up mutant birds would be a great addition to the series. if all the emus ever decided to go all at once, it'd be a wicked horde fight.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTU__jVP8E Majestic. A parrot that watched too much naruto, forgot how to fly, got very fat, and got the idea that holding your wings behind you when you run makes you go faster. And now it's radioactive and coming for your loving tato farm. Also big want: Giant mutant bowerbird that constructs shacks and periodically dances around outside your settlement trying to hit on you. Periodically steals the gaudiest thing in the settlement to make its own hut look more impressive. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Aug 30, 2018 |
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OwlFancier posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTU__jVP8E 
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OwlFancier posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTU__jVP8E 
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OwlFancier posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTU__jVP8E  OwlFancier posted:And now it's radioactive and coming for your loving tato farm. it shall be my mighty steed 
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Father Wendigo posted:I'd make Vaults dedicated to denying or subverting one of the five senses. A novel idea, but you can't remove the flavours from the people themselves, so the vault would still be exposed to tastes. I bet that people would have even stronger tastes if that's the only thing that had any true flavour.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:A novel idea, but you can't remove the flavours from the people themselves, so the vault would still be exposed to tastes. I bet that people would have even stronger tastes if that's the only thing that had any true flavour. Which is more or less in line with the rest of Vault-Tec's cavalcade of unforced errors.
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I see that Fallout 76 will run at 4K on the Xbox 1x. What about the PS4 Pro?
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dont be mean to me posted:I mean, if you're an island nation that didn't have enough strategic or material value or nukes to be worth nuking, and you survived the climate nightmares leading up to the end of the Old World, and the nuclear winter, and the sea full of 50s science horror giant rubber monsters, and still managed to put together an exploratory corps and enough bombs to end republics... How much tech it takes to accomplish things is pretty nebulous in FO, if Dead Money is to be believed there's enough tech in the Sierra Madre alone to take over nations, not too much of a stretch to have a lesser nation install an island vault pre-war
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Super Rad posted:I like to entertain the idea that there were island civilizations beneath the notice of the nuclear superpowers that went un-nuked. OwlFancier posted:The mutant wildlife of an island with no native terrestrial mammals would be pretty funny. jfood posted:so yea, hosed up mutant birds would be a great addition to the series. if all the emus ever decided to go all at once, it'd be a wicked horde fight. Alright, I know where this is going. Fallout: Jurassic Park
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Here's the opposite of the Tasteless Vault, The Vault Where Everything Is Solved By Cook-Off Challenges. It's lead by the IRON OVERSEER! Or, Vault that makes fun of dumb modder bullshit. Everyone keeps making their vault suits skimpier and skimpier and some rear end in a top hat refuses to deconstruct the giant stone gate in he built in the center of the vault. A single man who does not speak English is the unsung hero genius who keeps things all working.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:There's just one problem with these futuristic islands: you know how in the mainland of America the culture is permanently stuck in the 1950's for no apparent reason? Well, on the future islands the culture is stuck in the 1980's, forever. Hope you like leg warmers and walkmens. thats why i bought WASTED, and that game is a banger edit: how about the Danganronpa vault. literally just danganronpa, pink blood and all. no stupid reasons for why poo poo in there is different than poo poo out there spit on my clit fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Aug 30, 2018 |
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