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Shrek is bad but it's one of those totems of popular culture that so embodies the time in which it was created that it has value.
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Does anyone else associate "All Star" with Shrek more than Mystery Men (or even Rat Race) or is that just me?
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Aug 30, 2018 20:57
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Wheat Loaf posted:Does anyone else associate "All Star" with Shrek more than Mystery Men (or even Rat Race) or is that just me? Literally the entire internet does
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Aug 30, 2018 21:12
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I have seen a good amount of All Star memes that use Shrek. I have seen 0 All Star memes that use Mystery Men. I think it’s fair to say that the combined “ironic” love for both All Star and Shrek individually have fully married the two in the popular consciousness.
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Aug 30, 2018 21:13
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the entirety of the band Smash Mouth is permanently married to Shrek to the point that even the members of the band know it, for more songs than just All Star
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Aug 30, 2018 21:29
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Well the fact that every young adult on the Internet grew up watching Shrek and not Mystery Men is probably part of it.
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Aug 30, 2018 22:09
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I tend to associate Rat race and All-stars more then Shrek. Mainly because I watched Rat race a lot back then.
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Aug 30, 2018 22:39
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Wheat Loaf posted:Does anyone else associate "All Star" with Shrek more than Mystery Men (or even Rat Race) or is that just me?
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Aug 30, 2018 23:30
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"Does Shrek hold up?" is a trick question because it implies Shrek was ever good.
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Aug 30, 2018 23:35
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Andorra posted:"Does Shrek hold up?" is a trick question because it implies Shrek was ever good. Shrek is lovely.
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Aug 31, 2018 00:16
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I like Shrek 2 better than Shrek and I will fight you all.
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Aug 31, 2018 01:36
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Das Boo posted:I like Shrek 2 better than Shrek and I will fight you all. Same, it feels like it's less reliant on pop culture jokes,
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Aug 31, 2018 01:59
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porfiria posted:Well the fact that every young adult on the Internet grew up watching Shrek and not Mystery Men is probably part of it. Because Shrek is 90 minutes while mystery men is over two hours
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Aug 31, 2018 02:07
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They're both great, only Shrek became less relevant with time, and Mystery Men more and more so.
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Aug 31, 2018 02:14
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Pick posted:They're both great, only Shrek became less relevant with time, and Mystery Men more and more so. How on earth did Mystery Men become more relevant
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Aug 31, 2018 02:21
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Calaveron posted:How on earth did Mystery Men become more relevant Movies about superheroes are a bit of a fad at the moment
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Aug 31, 2018 02:55
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Shrek is lovely. the only thing even close to looking visually appealing is the lava castle
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Aug 31, 2018 03:23
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Shrek is way more relevant than Mystery Men in 2018.
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Aug 31, 2018 03:34
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You know Mystery Men isn't a great film but it holds up better than Shrek even if Shrek has the superior soundtrack.
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Aug 31, 2018 03:54
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I think Shrek holds up pretty well. Not visually anymore, but I think the movie is still good and doesn't rely THAT much on pop culture stuff the way the latter films did. That being said, the best scene in the Shrek films and one of the best in an animated film in general is the entire "holding out for a hero" sequence so 
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Aug 31, 2018 04:52
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Or the onion-ogre analogy.
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Aug 31, 2018 08:21
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Looper posted:the only thing even close to looking visually appealing is the lava castle No, I mean Shrek. He is lovely.
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Aug 31, 2018 08:22
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Or the onion-ogre analogy. I've mentioned this elsewhere, but Pick posted:I overheard someone say, "I'm like the movie Shrek, I have layers" and I was furious all day.
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Aug 31, 2018 09:59
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Shrek 2 is the one where he meets the parents, right? Yeah I remember it being pretty good.
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Aug 31, 2018 13:39
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Shrek 4 was ok
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Aug 31, 2018 14:01
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bitterandtwisted posted:Shrek 4 was ok They're not great films but Shrek 3 was the only really bad one in my opinion.
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Aug 31, 2018 16:39
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Larryb posted:They're not great films but Shrek 3 was the only really bad one in my opinion. I agree, but that one is EXTREMELY bad.
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Aug 31, 2018 16:42
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yeah, 3 was pretty loving dire
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Aug 31, 2018 20:11
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I'll just chime in saying I really like the actual Shrek theme that Harry Gregson-Williams made for the soundtrack - the one that almost nobody remembers because Shrek now means "All-Star", so to jog your memories if you're not in that subset that remembers it, here's "Fairytale". Beyond that, all I remember is that I saw Shrek in a theater that's loooong since gone out of business, and thinking back on it its placement just seems bizarre to me now - I wasn't aware the strip mall in question even had room for a theater at any point.
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Aug 31, 2018 23:05
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The first Shrek movie is one of two movies that I definitely saw more than once in the cinema. Saw it on Friday evening with my parents then saw it the next day for a friend's birthday. It was definitely the big movie that everyone had seen and everyone had liked and everyone quoted to death in my school (before that it had been Austin Powers 2).
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Aug 31, 2018 23:10
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Wheat Loaf posted:The first Shrek movie is one of two movies that I definitely saw more than once in the cinema. Saw it on Friday evening with my parents then saw it the next day for a friend's birthday. I know I'll still quote "I'm making waffles" whenever I'm making them for breakfast.
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Aug 31, 2018 23:27
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Shadow Hog posted:I'll just chime in saying I really like the actual Shrek theme that Harry Gregson-Williams made for the soundtrack - the one that almost nobody remembers because Shrek now means "All-Star" I remember. Never forget splodey-bird. 
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Robindaybird posted:yeah, 3 was pretty loving dire There isn’t a single thing in 3 that they couldn’t have just put in a montage in the intro for 4. Shrek 3 was one of the most pointless movies I’ve ever seen in my life
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did the first Shrek really have that many pop culture references? I ask because one of the things I feel always separated it from the sequels is that from Shrek 2 on the pop culture references were so built-in to the setting that the movies didn't really function without them. What would the Far Far Away be without the Hollywood Hills aesthetic? Shrek 2 was super big (wasn't it THE highest grossing animated film until Toy Story 3 or something?) and watching it recently I know it was one of the first movies that I saw that leaned suuuuuuper hard into pop culture references and watching it 13 years later it's not as easy to watch because the story can't easily be separated from all of that. 2 is still better than 3 but that's not saying a lot, I think I have only seen Shrek 3 once and it poisoned the well for a long time, I didn't see 4 until a few years after it came out because I thought it would be worse than 3. Turns out Shrek Forever After is pretty enjoyable  Also I always liked Shrek because the onion analogy works pretty drat well for a lot of things and says a lot about what Shrek thinks of himself, it was refreshing to have the "hero" of the story be someone so humble and relatively lackluster.
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It definitely had them, that dance party ending was basically a bunch of 70s songs back-to-back... but the main plot was more fairy-tale send-ups than pop culture memes, if I remember the film correctly (and Lord knows if I do or don't, it's been years since I've seen Shrek).
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Shadow Hog posted:It definitely had them, that dance party ending was basically a bunch of 70s songs back-to-back... but the main plot was more fairy-tale send-ups than pop culture memes, if I remember the film correctly (and Lord knows if I do or don't, it's been years since I've seen Shrek). that wasn't the ending, it was a short that was made for the DVD release. My sister was just at the age where that poo poo was all she wanted to watch so i feel like if I watched it I could sing along with the whole thing from memory, even though it's been at least a decade since I've seen it there were definitely lots of pop culture jokes though. a Small World parody, a profession wrestling scene, a dating game reference (complete with The Pina Colada Song), and that's just the first half-hour or so
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Funny as hell, I swear I could remember Farquaad exasperatedly singing "Stayin' Alive" inside the belly of the dragon when I saw the film in theaters, but looking it up, you're right, it was just Donkey singing "I'm A Believer" with everything else being added on in the home release. That's giving me some weird Berenstein/Berenstain vibes...
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DC Murderverse posted:there were definitely lots of pop culture jokes though. a Small World parody, a profession wrestling scene, a dating game reference (complete with The Pina Colada Song), and that's just the first half-hour or so I don't feel like I've noticed those too much but then again I also watched Aladdin at least once a week for most of my childhood (and the cartoon, which doubled down on the improv pop culture stuff Robin Williams instilled in Genie) so I may just be the right kind of person to lap that poo poo up, in moderation. But still you take those references from the first 30 minutes of the movie and compare them with the first 5 minutes of Shrek 2 and we have The Little Mermaid (getting eaten by sharks), Lord of the Rings, I wanna say Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon but that could've just been more demonstration of how strong Fiona was, and capped off with the Spider-Man upside down kiss. The one thing I remember from Shrek 3 was the Paul McCartney thing at the beginning...that was the moment I thought to myself "oh, the whole movie is going to be like this isn't it? poo poo"
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Shadow Hog posted:I'll just chime in saying I really like the actual Shrek theme that Harry Gregson-Williams made for the soundtrack - the one that almost nobody remembers because Shrek now means "All-Star", so to jog your memories if you're not in that subset that remembers it, here's "Fairytale". I have always adored this piece.
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Pick posted:I have always adored this piece. The adventure theme is pretty boss, too.
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