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get that OUT of my face posted:sure seems like it. you can read the statement she put out in the post above mine- among other things, she says that she was born in Miami but spent a lot of time between NYC and Colombia. all of the lines of attack against Salazar stem from the fact that she wasn't the same politically in college as she is now, which applies to practically everybody They seem to acknowledge that a change of heart is not surprising in college. Rereading their sources for her changing back story, it seems more likely that it's just plain complicated so it's not hard that people got confused. And if you read the Jacobin piece they refer to at least twice, she doesn't say she immigrated, only that her family did, which is true about part of them. I don't really like some aspects of her statement, though. Particularly her noting that this is a politically-motivated attack; she's a politician, that's life as a politician, you just deal with the content. And the content isn't really damning. It's giving her an opportunity to engage with a lot of relatively recently arrived Americans who I bet have a way more nuanced experience than "our parents moved here as immigrants or met here after immigrating and then stayed and had me" or "they brought me with them and I naturalized with them" or similar things but 4-5 generations back. Hell, I don't have one of those stories, my parents aren't Americans, and have no plans to become Americans; they had me here, left with me, and then I came back alone. I don't know if this is going to be particularly harmful for her with anyone other than the ones who wouldn't vote for her because she's insufficiently committed to Israel right or wrong. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I don't really like some aspects of her statement, though. Particularly her noting that this is a politically-motivated attack; she's a politician, that's life as a politician, you just deal with the content. And the content isn't really damning. in related news: the latest attacks on Zellnor Myrie are that he's not from Lefferts Gardens and just moved there (he was born and raised in the neighborhood) and that he never passed the bar exam (he passed it before he graduated from Cornell Law). also, Jesse Hamilton said that there was a gunshot in the door to his house because somebody put it there, and there's speculation that it looks fake. if anyone is shameless enough to fake a gunshot in their own home, it's Jesse
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get that OUT of my face posted:i don't agree. one part of the issue is the article saying Salazar is not a real Jew on account of her father being jewish but not her mother (a moot point because she underwent a formal conversion to Conservative Judaism anyway), and the not-so-subtle implication that jews of color also don't fit into the mold of the "ideal jew" (read: white/Ashkenazi and pro-israel). a politically motivated attack is one thing, but when it's this personal, it's not something that should just be shrugged off Agreed on all accounts. Absurd Alhazred posted:I don't know if this is going to be particularly harmful for her with anyone other than the ones who wouldn't vote for her because she's insufficiently committed to Israel right or wrong. Thing is that the seeds of doubt about her portrayal of self, honesty, coherency as a candidate, could be planted -- Even within voters who don't care how, or know why, the Tablet piece was evil af from a Jewish standpoint. Even if the consequences are not particularly harmful, the level of vile that Tablet reached is appalling, and that matters more and more as reliable media outlets and political coverage continue to spin out in this post-truth, Trump reality that we're trying to muddle through.
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get that OUT of my face posted:i don't agree. one part of the issue is the article saying Salazar is not a real Jew on account of her father being jewish but not her mother (a moot point because she underwent a formal conversion to Conservative Judaism anyway), and the not-so-subtle implication that jews of color also don't fit into the mold of the "ideal jew" (read: white/Ashkenazi and pro-israel). a politically motivated attack is one thing, but when it's this personal, it's not something that should just be shrugged off Except she said it was a reform conversion and she didn't feel it meant much because she felt she had an underlying connection to Judaism. This does lend credence to her story being unstable or at the very least not being expressed very well, if you have had that impression when she's said differently. Cuddly Tumblemumps posted:Thing is that the seeds of doubt about her portrayal of self, honesty, coherency as a candidate, could be planted -- Even within voters who don't care how, or know why, the Tablet piece was evil af from a Jewish standpoint. I mean, she seemed to go from a CUFI fellow to strongly self-identifying as Jewish in her pro-Palestine work, if there's doubt about this it is ultimately because of her actions. quote:Even if the consequences are not particularly harmful, the level of vile that Tablet reached is appalling, and that matters more and more as reliable media outlets and political coverage continue to spin out in this post-truth, Trump reality that we're trying to muddle through. I think if people are using their identity as a cudgel they get to get scrutinized. And this isn't post-truth, the worst you can say about that piece is that they're being uncharitable and misreading ambiguous statements in their worst sense for their convenience.
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Hello NYS politics thread: Where's my legal weed? I wanna go down to the weed store and buy some. Seriously though, I know Cynthia pushed Cuomo to the left on it, and NYS Health just issued a report that said "Yeah, it's a good idea" but is it realistic?
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Cuomo will be dragged to legalized weed kicking and screaming but if he thinks it’ll help him get reelected he’ll sign off on it. I predict it will be quasi legal for a few years before pot stores start opening in Times Square. Just expect to be one of the last states in NE/mid Atlantic to actually pass the law obviously if you’re nonwhite it will still be criminally prosecutable for years
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I helped out donating to david sirota both via his patreon and his wife's campaign and it's paying off huge lol. his brain got broke hard and he's been taking it out on scumbags ever since
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The attorney general debate yday was interesting, mostly as a way to see how much the other candidates feared Teachout. She was pummeled most of the running time, and she seemed kinda overwhelmed at the eagerness of her opponnents to go after her.
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nixon wants 76 degree temperature in the hall for her debate with cuomo and calling his request for more air conditioning sexism because public spaces have long been too chilly for women in her view. i wonder if he asked specifically for 69
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that is a factually supported thing https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/04/science/chilly-at-work-a-decades-old-formula-may-be-to-blame.html but I never thought anyone would make it a point or try to change it
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btw here is my thread for the debate tonight: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3867271&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#pti3
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https://twitter.com/soniasaraiya/status/1035178209749475328 Jesse is scared.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Except she said it was a reform conversion and she didn't feel it meant much because she felt she had an underlying connection to Judaism. This does lend credence to her story being unstable or at the very least not being expressed very well, if you have had that impression when she's said differently. You were so right  Wondering if this poo poo had anything to do with her avoiding visibly religious Jews at political events earlier in the year.Her statements, when examined in a big pile, show that she was relying on most people not knowing anything about Jewish identity, Jewish POC, and/or Sephardi communities. A lot of cranky, leftist Jews who defended her are pretty upset.
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In other Hamilton news: https://bklyner.com/michelle-obama-knows-nothing-of-the-michelle-obama-political-club-does-not-endorse-hamilton/quote:No matter the intentions, officials for Michelle Obama denied any association with the club. When contacted, officials in Mrs. Obama’s office were not aware of any political club in Mrs. Obama’s name, and confirmed that she has not endorsed Hamilton. Just unbelievably dirty. Like cartoon villain dirty. Like this-isnt-even-believable-fire-these-hack-writers dirty.
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Local dumbass Mark Gjonaj spent yesterday chanting SHAME at Biaggi. He was apparently there at Klein's request. https://twitter.com/Biaggi4NY/status/1035510563936317441?s=19
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Accident Underwater posted:Local dumbass Mark Gjonaj spent yesterday chanting SHAME at Biaggi. He was apparently there at Klein's request. Piss Tape Is Real hat spotted in the wild. The folks protesting are all from the local community association, and the shame chant is because Biaggi is in favor of a sensible road diet plan which the association rabidly opposes. They asked me to come help and they got really pissed at me when they found out I was really there for Biaggi. I just really want that road diet.
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Protected bike lanes not only reduce traffic deaths (for everyone, by forcing people to driver slower and not treat urban areas like a speedway) but they also have the bonus benefit of really pissing off the shittiest, most entitled rear end in a top hat drivers. It's win-win! Plus you can ride a bike in them!
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gently caress riding a bike in nyc until there’s real, proctected bile lanes e-lol I’ll leave it
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Tish James was speaking at a forum somewhere in Brooklyn and said she "only" received $70,000 from cuomo. i used to think it wouldn't be the end of the world if she won but i'm thinking otherwise now
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get that OUT of my face posted:Tish James was speaking at a forum somewhere in Brooklyn and said she "only" received $70,000 from cuomo. i used to think it wouldn't be the end of the world if she won but i'm thinking otherwise now She used this in her Brian Lehrer candidate interview too and the only reason it didn’t stick out at me more was because I was being driven insane by her weird verbal tic of referring to everyone as “individuals”
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CaptainPsyko posted:She used this in her Brian Lehrer candidate interview too and the only reason it didn’t stick out at me more was because I was being driven insane by her weird verbal tic of referring to everyone as “individuals”
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I support bike lanes because we can use them to cordon off and then murder all the cyclists and then use them as extra sidewalks
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Waluigi-Soap posted:Piss Tape Is Real hat spotted in the wild. Two of the Klein/Gjonaj supporters seen in the video are local people who are basically contrarians to anything proposed by anyone under 40 years old. There's a weird contingent of Online Boomers who still refer to people like me (30 something year olds with wives and children) as kids who don't know any better. They get real mad when anyone disagrees, no matter how politely.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I support bike lanes because we can use them to cordon off and then murder all the cyclists and then use them as extra sidewalks I support this too. also speed bumps on every block for cars and bikes.
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tish james keeps doing the opposite of endearing herself and spoke at a long island church whose pastor is some ex-gay nutjob who loves conversion therapy
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Cuddly Tumblemumps posted:You were so right Is there any recent reporting on this that isn't by right-wing rags attacking her or left-wing rags taking her at her word, whatever her latest one is, anyway? Google is being no help. get that OUT of my face posted:tish james keeps doing the opposite of endearing herself and spoke at a long island church whose pastor is some ex-gay nutjob who loves conversion therapy She better lose. I'm hoping Teachout wins, but I really really want her to lose.
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On Staten Island they've put some bike lanes in, which I'm sure had infuriated the chuds. Problem is the just painted them in and didn't bother to fix and off the holes that were in the middle of some of these new bike lanes
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Is there any recent reporting on this that isn't by right-wing rags attacking her or left-wing rags taking her at her word, whatever her latest one is, anyway? Google is being no help. As for Tish James, Councilman Jimmy Van Bramer switched his support to Teachout. He doesn't mention the anti-gay church as a reason, but as someone who is gay, that probably weighed on his mind.
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So Julia Salazar grew up next door to Keith Hernandez in Jupiter, Florida and sued his ex-wife Kai for defamation after Kai accused her of robbing her and identity theft, for which Salazar was arrested..... ??????
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