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Wheat Loaf posted:Your tone is ontagonist and you're making me vurry ongry! I don't care what you call your sorry little grief-hole. First Man is thicc.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 09:07 |
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Since I just finished reading and have no better excuse to post them, here are Claude Lanzmann's (he of Shoah) thoughts on Schindler's List. quote:Schindler's List is an impossible story tl;dr: He didn't like it.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 11:17 |
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Samuel Clemens posted:Since I just finished reading and have no better excuse to post them, here are Claude Lanzmann's (he of Shoah) thoughts on Schindler's List. God drat
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 12:40 |
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Savidudeosoo posted:Didn't know they were making a Catch-22 movie! They are making a TV series, tho
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 13:34 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:I'm reading the typings of a poster, he knows nothing, he talks all the time, the result is he’s a trenchant buffoon, he has no idea how to post on Something Awful, he probably looks ridiculous in his fashion wear. He swans around all the time hoping that people will recognize him, when in fact nobody’s even remotely interested. He’s taken up enough time on this forum already and he hasn’t even opened his mouth. God knows why he’s here, I have nothing to ask the guy. And for all I know he may be a coco shunter too. What's a cocoa shunter?
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 13:35 |
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Are they doing another Purge prequel?
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 13:52 |
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The Lanzmann piece feels like a tightly drawn bow finally snapping, he'd been taking heat for Shoah for a while by then and you can imagine how nasty some of the criticism was.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 13:52 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:Are they doing another Purge prequel? No, that's also a TV series.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 14:07 |
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The MSJ posted:I cannot feel anything about this poster without a pony in it. I hope that this dose of reality is not too harsh a wake-up call.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 14:54 |
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Wendell posted:I hope that this dose of reality is not too harsh a wake-up call. God drat
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 15:11 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The Lanzmann piece feels like a tightly drawn bow finally snapping, he'd been taking heat for Shoah for a while by then and you can imagine how nasty some of the criticism was. It definitely comes across as a defence of Shoah more so than an attack on Schindler's List at times. I can just imagine how annoyed Lanzmann was whenever someone told him that his film didn't make them cry.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 15:44 |
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ruddiger posted:I thought it was because she wanted the show to be more self conscious about social issues instead of becoming a live action cartoon. She saw what happened to shows like Good Times, where it starts out fairly grounded while finding humor in the working class conditions the family lives in, but then in later seasons it quickly turned into JJ Walker and friends, where JJ's whacky antics became the center of the show instead of what it's original intentions were. I had heard personality issues but that theory is just as plausible.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 15:59 |
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Wendell posted:I hope that this dose of reality is not too harsh a wake-up call. Seeing this, I finally *get* the horror and fear of the Holocaust
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 17:52 |
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Samuel Clemens posted:It definitely comes across as a defence of Shoah more so than an attack on Schindler's List at times. I can just imagine how annoyed Lanzmann was whenever someone told him that his film didn't make them cry. I almost sort of wonder if Lanzmann actually watched Schindler's List that closely; he accuses it of not giving proper weight to those Schindler was unable to save, but I would say one of the central messages of the movie is that even the enormity of his effort was merely a drop in the bucket compared to the evil the Nazis committed. Both Shoah and Schindler's List are immensely powerful and valuable films, and worthwhile perspectives on the Holocaust.
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# ? Aug 30, 2018 18:12 |
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FilthyImp posted:There's poo poo like the little sister from Boy Meets World or Aunt Viv from Fresh Prince or Roseanne's Becky. The original Becky, Lecy Goranson, left because she wanted to go to college, and they couldn't work her school schedule with the shooting schedule. Sarah Chalke came in and played Becky for two seasons. Then Lecy was able to work out her schedule to be able to play Becky again, so they brought her back for most of the 8th season, except for a few episodes where her character was necessary but she was unavailable, so they brought Sarah back again. The final season she wasn't able to work it out with her schedule, so Sarah played her full time again. Janet Hubert played the original Aunt Viv, and a lot of her character's strength's and storylines came from her pushing for Aunt Viv to be woman of substance. Only, she and Will Smith did not get along at all and frequently butted heads. She was a veteran actress of stage and screen, and he was just some young punk with minimal professional acting experience. Will Smith eventually forced the producers' hand, and had her fired. Daphne Reid came in to play Aunt Viv for the rest of the series, and pretty much portrayed her as a completed neutered version that was merely a supporting role to the rest of the cast.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 00:40 |
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This movie apparently comes out tomorrow and I've seen zero advertising for it despite some rave reviews
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 01:34 |
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QuoProQuid posted:
I've seen a trailer for it in front of a lot of the films I've seen in theaters this year. Looks interesting.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 02:01 |
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K. Waste posted:I've seen a trailer for it in front of a lot of the films I've seen in theaters this year. Looks interesting. Apparently the tone of the trailers is kind of misleading, it’s not quite the straight-up horror it looks like
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 02:05 |
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morestuff posted:Apparently the tone of the trailers is kind of misleading, it’s not quite the straight-up horror it looks like See, I wasn't getting horror vibes at all. Psych-thriller, I could see that, but it's just got this whole quaintly British, Agatha Christie bent to it that just doesn't scan any of the spooky stuff as horror, per se. They've packaged the trailer for it in front of a lot of horror movies for sure, but I also saw it before, like, Three Identical Strangers, Mile 22, and BlacKkKlansman, they're casting the generic net pretty wide.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 02:09 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:More Suspiria.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 02:40 |
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That hair outfit is the scariest loving thing.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 03:33 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I almost sort of wonder if Lanzmann actually watched Schindler's List that closely; he accuses it of not giving proper weight to those Schindler was unable to save, but I would say one of the central messages of the movie is that even the enormity of his effort was merely a drop in the bucket compared to the evil the Nazis committed. I don't think he's wrong about Schindler's List being an inspirational story at heart though. Sure, the film doesn't deny that many died, but its focus lies on those who lived. When we come out of the screening, what we remember most is the heroic portrait of a man who accomplished great things in horrible times. It's no accident that the film ends with the survivors and their families honouring Schindler's grave. In Lanzmann's view, there is no way to give "proper weight" to the full extent of the Holocaust's suffering within a traditional narrative structure - let alone a story of heroic redemption - because you have to inevitably sanitise the events. The central passage of his review (which is admittedly unnecessarily sprawling) is this passage: quote:Fiction is a transgression, I am deeply convinced that there is a ban on depiction. Schindler's List evoked the same sort of sensation I got from the Holocaust series. Transgressing or trivializing, in this case they are identical. The series or the Hollywood film, they transgress because they trivialize, and thus they remove the holocaust's unique character. Samuel Clemens fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Aug 31, 2018 |
# ? Aug 31, 2018 11:33 |
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Yeah, I wish I knew about that Lanzmann quote before doing my Son of Saul vid, that's some really tight poo poo. "[T]ears are a kind of joy, a katharsis" is a great loving observation.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 14:18 |
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Nihonniboku posted:Janet Hubert played the original Aunt Viv, and a lot of her character's strength's and storylines came from her pushing for Aunt Viv to be woman of substance. Only, she and Will Smith did not get along at all and frequently butted heads. She was a veteran actress of stage and screen, and he was just some young punk with minimal professional acting experience. Will Smith eventually forced the producers' hand, and had her fired. Daphne Reid came in to play Aunt Viv for the rest of the series, and pretty much portrayed her as a completed neutered version that was merely a supporting role to the rest of the cast. The difference between New and Old Aunt Viv is wild as hell, they may as well have locked the character in an attic.
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# ? Aug 31, 2018 14:25 |
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Samuel Clemens posted:I don't think he's wrong about Schindler's List being an inspirational story at heart though. Sure, the film doesn't deny that many died, but its focus lies on those who lived. When we come out of the screening, what we remember most is the heroic portrait of a man who accomplished great things in horrible times. It's no accident that the film ends with the survivors and their families honouring Schindler's grave. I've posted this before but I always laugh at the point in this roundtable where Haneke gives a similar answer about Schindler's List/movies making melodrama out of real tragedy & then the moderator immediately throws it to John Krasinski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui2kFHP-bSc&t=465s e: Hat Thoughts fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Sep 1, 2018 |
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 02:27 |
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Nice cast, I'm in. Even though I have my reservations about political films trying to point at rather recent American history going, "Wasn't that outrageous??" in the Era of Trump. Can't really top the daily news. Extremely Coen movie title. Dissapointed Owl fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Sep 1, 2018 |
# ? Sep 1, 2018 03:55 |
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I bet that Buster Scruggs never even shows up in person. Or at most is in one scene
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 04:01 |
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I can't work out what the last word of that title is supposed to say.
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 04:03 |
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Vagabundo posted:I can't work out what the last word of that title is supposed to say. Seruygs?
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 04:05 |
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Hello, I'm mister... Ser-uygs. (Yes, that'll do.)
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 05:35 |
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perhaps ... Scruggs (see FreudianSlippers' post above if youre in doubt)
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 05:56 |
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There better be at least one promotional thing that mentions the name of the boat was Monkey Business.
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 06:47 |
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RC and Moon Pie posted:There better be at least one promotional thing that mentions the name of the boat was Monkey Business. It's in the trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAOYDcnVx6E&t=41s
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 06:49 |
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Of course Bill Burr shows up.
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 07:03 |
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bill bahhr in bahston wahl i nahver
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# ? Sep 1, 2018 10:26 |
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Bahahahaha
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