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Wasn't the world first Ultimate clear done by a dark knight at a time when people were crying about how bad dark knights were and not worth bringing on raids. And suddenly everyone started talking about how solid dark knights were almost as if most players are clueless about game balance
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Blockhouse posted:Looking at a collection of all the leaks posted on the FFXIV reddit BLU is specifically "melee support DPS" so I think it's a safe bet that they're going to go with the FFXI middle eastern-esque style and they'll share gear with ninjas Nothing about BLU is really DEX-y, though? I think it’s much more likely that BLU would share with MNK and be another STR main dps. If we get DNC, I would expect them to share with NIN (don’t see them making DNC a healer, sorry) leaving the Gunblade job as a plate wearing tank.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:32
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DapperDuck posted:Nothing about BLU is really DEX-y, though? Their hallmark FFXI weapon was curved swords, which screams "nimble, dexterous fighter."
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Sep 5, 2018 19:34
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DapperDuck posted:Nothing about BLU is really DEX-y, though?  Gonna have to disagree with you there. Also the exact same leak is the healer dancer thing so if we're operating under the assumption that any one of these are true. well, it's all from the same source.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:37
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:Wasn't the world first Ultimate clear done by a dark knight at a time when people were crying about how bad dark knights were and not worth bringing on raids. And suddenly everyone started talking about how solid dark knights were almost as if most players are clueless about game balance yes and it is still the best thing
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Sep 5, 2018 19:40
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:Wasn't the world first Ultimate clear done by a dark knight at a time when people were crying about how bad dark knights were and not worth bringing on raids. And suddenly everyone started talking about how solid dark knights were almost as if most players are clueless about game balance Even if DRK was somehow super awful mathematically, The Blackest Night is rad and I feel like a hero every time I slap someone with it only to see them survive with a sliver of health.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:44
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Xun posted:Few pages late but what sword is that? That's the i350 craftable Nightsteel sword. It shares a model with the ARR Zeta relic Excalibur. You can probably get one for about half a mil on the MB, but I imagine the mats are a bit cheaper than that by now if you know someone who can craft it. Orthodox Rabbit posted:Wasn't the world first Ultimate clear done by a dark knight at a time when people were crying about how bad dark knights were and not worth bringing on raids. And suddenly everyone started talking about how solid dark knights were almost as if most players are clueless about game balance Also, if I remember right, the guy playing the DRK was asked about it and he said he finds DRK fun to play so that's why he used it.
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Sep 5, 2018 19:50
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Blockhouse posted:Looking at a collection of all the leaks posted on the FFXIV reddit BLU is specifically "melee support DPS" so I think it's a safe bet that they're going to go with the FFXI middle eastern-esque style and they'll share gear with ninjas While I've liked the idea of BLU Tanks, this seems kind of plausible with no-one sharing that gear yet, isn't there also that place that got put on the full version map unshrouded that's basically the fantasy middle east of XIV?
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Sep 5, 2018 19:56
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Oxyclean posted:While I've liked the idea of BLU Tanks, this seems kind of plausible with no-one sharing that gear yet, isn't there also that place that got put on the full version map unshrouded that's basically the fantasy middle east of XIV? Thavnair, yeah. My personal bet is on the next expac taking place there and either the interior of Ilsabard or Meracydia (though the former seems more likely with how they're currently setting the table).
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Sep 5, 2018 19:58
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Ehh, I hope they only focus on one region/continent in 5.0. I generally like Stormblood, but I feel like the split between Gyr Abania and Doma really kinda mangled the MSQ. It felt scattered and like they half-assed two stories instead of whole-assing one.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:25
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Blue Mage could still be Thavnairian without necessarily having to go to Thavnair in 5.0 Hell Red Mage is Ala Mhigan and debuted in the Ala Mhigo expansion and you spend like 95% of those quests in Limsa or Ishgard.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:36
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Don't worry, we're definitely going to Garlemald next expansion.
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Rainuwastaken posted:Ehh, I hope they only focus on one region/continent in 5.0. I generally like Stormblood, but I feel like the split between Gyr Abania and Doma really kinda mangled the MSQ. It felt scattered and like they half-assed two stories instead of whole-assing one. I went in not really expecting to be as invested in the Doma sections, and ended up liking that part much better than the Ala Mhigo stuff. The Doma setting/story reminded me a little bit of the Suikoden series. Meanwhile, the Ala Mhigo plot was OK, but lacked compelling characters aside from Raubahn. Seemed like Lyse was pinch-hitting for Minfilia as the Bland Blond of the expansion. I do think two more regions in 5.0 would be a Bad Idea considering how thinly everyone is spread out as it is with Ishgard + Gyr + Doma + all the ARR stuff.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:40
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I hope for more Fordola soon, just to hear her great voice and accent.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:41
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Leofish posted:I hope for more Fordola soon, just to hear her great voice and accent. She's in one of the stories they just published.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:43
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There are specific Thavnair and Garlemald embassies in Kugane and they're going to get used. Thavnair is a relatively small place iirc so having them be the springboard into Ilsabard for 5.0 is entirely feasible.
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Sep 5, 2018 20:45
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player skill pretty much always trumps class balance in this game and every standard composition is viable
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Sep 5, 2018 21:02
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that doesnt mean that making warrior the best at everything forever in every patch until the end of time is a good thing
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Sep 5, 2018 21:02
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Reiterpallasch posted:that doesnt mean that making warrior the best at everything forever in every patch until the end of time is a good thing Why even play Warrior anymore in a world without Fracture?
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Sep 5, 2018 21:04
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Sep 5, 2018 21:07
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Holmgang having the same cooldown as Sentinel is actually perfectly balanced.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:07
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Thundarr posted:Thavnair is a relatively small place iirc so having them be the springboard into Ilsabard for 5.0 is entirely feasible.  (some minor mislabelings like "The Born") It's always mostly an issue of scale. Thavnair is roughly the size or larger than one of the Eorzean city-states, but then, so are Yanxia and the Azim Steppe and they get 1 zone apiece. Could always have Radz-at-Han and Thavnair, though, and still have plenty of room to climb up to Garlemald proper. It's a big continent.
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Blockhouse posted:
Maybe it’s the D&D in me speaking, but that is definitely a slashing sword which equates to a STR build as opposed to a piercing sword (like RDM’s Rapier) which would be DEX-based. Also, show me where he says DNC is a healer in the leak? DNCs have traditionally not been primary healers, rather a dps/debuff hybrid with off healing capabilities. Coupled with traditionally using daggers, I envision them as yet another DPS, using DEX main. I couldn’t see them using MND or SE making another DEX set for just a healer. It also doesn’t make sense that SE would add two jobs that use the same stat in an expansion, which furthers my theory that BLU would use leather STR (also MNK has no competition for it so far).
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Sep 5, 2018 21:17
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if dancer isn't a healer i riot
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DapperDuck posted:Maybe it’s the D&D in me speaking, but that is definitely a slashing sword which equates to a STR build as opposed to a piercing sword (like RDM’s Rapier) which would be DEX-based. There's no reason to expect jobs to be designed to perfectly match how they worked in previous games. See: red mage Also monk and samurai share their gear now. Dragoon and Ninja are the only current jobs with unique leftside gear. Of those two, my guess is that blue mage would be more likely to get ninja stuff if they don't get a new set entirely. Dancer sharing gear with monk would make sense thematically but honestly I have no idea where they plan to go with it other than that I will Dance Through The Danger as soon as they let me.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:24
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I hope any DPS they make in the near future shares gear with other classes. Loot tables are bloated enough already.
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WrightOfWay posted:I hope any DPS they make in the near future shares gear with other classes. Loot tables are bloated enough already. If they were smart they would realize everyone just glams bikinis and cute dresses regardless and merge all the melee dps into one gear set.
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To this day I don't know why scouting gear even exists. MNK and NIN sharing gear for all pre 2.4 gear would have been fine, what was wrong with just continuing that? I mean poo poo the Scouting and Striking sets were just recolors of each other like 95% of the time anyways. What we really need is for them to just say gently caress it and make all the STR classes use the same set and put Ninja on Aiming gear.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:33
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gently caress no, I don't want my awesome, pure Bard having to share armor designs with Ninja
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DapperDuck posted:Maybe it’s the D&D in me speaking, but that is definitely a slashing sword which equates to a STR build as opposed to a piercing sword (like RDM’s Rapier) which would be DEX-based. It is absolutely the D&D speaking. Ninjas use daggers and like 99% of their attacks are slashing to the point that they cause a slashing damage resist debuff. Here is the pastebin collection all the BluFever Gamefaqs posts. (Disclaimer: it was put together by 4chan but you can google the snippets to find the original gamefaqs threads.) e: given how super whiny and desperate for attention this dude comes off as I'm going to assume he's not like a secretly disgruntled S-E employee or something Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Sep 5, 2018 |
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Arist posted:if dancer isn't a healer i riot I want it to be a tank
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Axle_Stukov posted:To this day I don't know why scouting gear even exists. MNK and NIN sharing gear for all pre 2.4 gear would have been fine, what was wrong with just continuing that? I mean poo poo the Scouting and Striking sets were just recolors of each other like 95% of the time anyways. What we really need is for them to just say gently caress it and make all the STR classes use the same set and put Ninja on Aiming gear. Aesthetics. People get really really hung up on aesthetics. Same with DRG and MNK having split leftside gear at this point. I was surprised that SAM went with MNK's striking but the aesthetics fit (and I glam Makai Mauler pretty much 100% of the time) when they could have gone with the heavier lamellar coat style of samurai. Also I wouldn't be surprised if Radz-at-Han was something like Kugane where you just get a big city and that's it for our exploration of Thavnair.
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Blockhouse posted:Here is the pastebin collection all the BluFever Gamefaqs posts. (Disclaimer: it was put together by 4chan but you can google the snippets to find the original gamefaqs threads.)
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Vermain posted:Their hallmark FFXI weapon was curved swords, which screams "nimble, dexterous fighter." Did you see those blue mages from Thavnaria? They have curved swords. Curved. Swords. Also jesus SE do we need even more dps classes in this game? Let tanks and healers have some cool toys.
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Leal posted:Also jesus SE do we need even more dps classes in this game? Let tanks and healers have some cool toys. I mean....it's an MMO, man. It just makes sense to make more DPS jobs than tank/healer because 90% of the playerbase of literally every MMO ever refuses to touch a role other than "cool anime hero that does tons of damage and has the epic finishing move".
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Also because it's probably easier to come up with mechanically distinct ways to deal damage vs meaningfully different ways to tank, unless you design the game from the ground up to account for radically different tanking options (they did not).
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Sep 5, 2018 22:08
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Leal posted:Did you see those blue mages from Thavnaria? They have curved swords. Curved. Swords. Assuming all of this is true and tanks are getting the loving gunblade class I think that covers "cool toy" pretty strongly
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EponymousMrYar posted:I was surprised that SAM went with MNK's striking but the aesthetics fit (and I glam Makai Mauler pretty much 100% of the time) when they could have gone with the heavier lamellar coat style of samurai. My dearest wish is that class restrictions are removed for glamouring, so I can wear the Asuran tank gear on my samurai.
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Sep 5, 2018 22:15
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the curved sabre, used only by nimble, dextrous fighters like hussars and heavy cavalry
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Reiterpallasch posted:the curved sabre, used only by nimble, dextrous fighters like hussars and heavy cavalry Ah, my two favorite, extremely common heroic fantasy archetypes
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