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Fister Roboto posted:While I'm complaining about things, can we have so that if you're a war leader you can always reassign occupation of enemy provinces? It's really annoying to call in an ally with favors and then have them grab a bunch of provinces that they're never going to take. Yes I know I can tag the provinces before the war, but being able to reassign and then deal with the diplomatic fallout if you don't give an ally enough territory seems like a much better system. It would also be super annoying if you were trying to take some provinces in a war where you aren't the leader and the AI reassigned them. The current system gives you full volition in both leader and non-leader wars, if you didn't get the provinces you want its totally on you. Plus the current way is more historically accurate
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Fister Roboto posted:While I'm complaining about things, can we have so that if you're a war leader you can always reassign occupation of enemy provinces? It's really annoying to call in an ally with favors and then have them grab a bunch of provinces that they're never going to take. Yes I know I can tag the provinces before the war, but being able to reassign and then deal with the diplomatic fallout if you don't give an ally enough territory seems like a much better system. I feel like that'd be giving too much power to the war leader. Imagine in multiplayer the war leader just yoinking all the poo poo you fought for and sieged down yourself. It's one thing to be snubbed in a peace deal, it's another thing entirely to have that poo poo outright jacked from you. Even in single player, you failed to stake your claim beforehand and your allies took that land themselves. Deal with it. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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Sep 7, 2018 23:24
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It would be nice to have an option to automatically turn over all you take to another tag in the war instead of having to do it province by province, or something to do it to multiple provinces? Or maybe you can ask for control of a province from another tag, but it costs trust with controller and other interested nations in the war? Would be nice to have something to spend trust on besides war after it's all maxed out.
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Sep 8, 2018 00:14
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sloshmonger posted:It would be nice to have an option to automatically turn over all you take to another tag in the war instead of having to do it province by province, or something to do it to multiple provinces? Or maybe you can ask for control of a province from another tag, but it costs trust with controller and other interested nations in the war? Would be nice to have something to spend trust on besides war after it's all maxed out. God yes. Make this another macro builder function. Occupation management for you and your vassals is a pain in the rear end. Especially when you assign forts to your vassals so you don't have to pay for them and then take them back at the end of the war (my vassals love me).
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Sep 8, 2018 00:34
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I feel like that'd be giving too much power to the war leader. Imagine in multiplayer the war leader just yoinking all the poo poo you fought for and sieged down yourself. It's one thing to be snubbed in a peace deal, it's another thing entirely to have that poo poo outright jacked from you. If I call an ally in with favors I should be able to grab whatever the hell I want.
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Sep 8, 2018 01:41
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Wow, there are so many tags in India/SEA now. They crammed even more fresh meat into the thunderdome, it rules.
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Sep 8, 2018 02:12
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thinking of playing this for the first time since like mandate of heaven. is vanilla still the best way to play or are there mods to tie together some of the new systems they added? also are cradle of civ and/or dharma worth getting?
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Mantis42 posted:Wow, there are so many tags in India/SEA now. They crammed even more fresh meat into the thunderdome, it rules. Yeah having a fun time as Mewar. F'in Gujarat actually attacked me early on  , I've rarely had the AI declare war on me. Anyway they got dunked hard then gobbled up by everyone else.Is there a way to add a new center of trade? Or can you only upgrade the ones you've got already?
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Sep 8, 2018 03:54
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It's a missed opportunity to not have a cheevo for capturing Budapest as Gorkha.
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Mantis42 posted:It's a missed opportunity to not have a cheevo for capturing Budapest as Gorkha.
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Sep 8, 2018 05:24
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You know, The Dragon of Budapest, The Son of Moonraker, Cupholder of the Sacred Tit of Attilla, Gorkha! (look up James Adomian's impersonation of Sebastian Gorka)
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StashAugustine posted:thinking of playing this for the first time since like mandate of heaven. is vanilla still the best way to play or are there mods to tie together some of the new systems they added? also are cradle of civ and/or dharma worth getting? If you're planning on playing a muslim or an indian, then they may be worth it, but otherwise, probably not. Likewise, Rule Britannia is not essential if you're not playing in the British Isles. The main game-wide things you're missing out on from these three expacs are army professionalism (a very inessential feature), and government reforms, which are kinda interesting and allows you to minmax your government more. For a first game after a stint away, maybe just jump in with what you had before first and see if you like the new changes or not.
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Mantis42 posted:It's a missed opportunity to not have a cheevo for capturing Budapest as Gorkha. I chuckled.
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Sep 8, 2018 10:41
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I like the ability to upgrade trade centres. No gently caress you Zanzibar, Inhambe is the new hotness.
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Sep 8, 2018 10:59
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I found out the hard way that Rajputs and Jains both apply a -100% conversion strength modifier to provinces they hold. That seems a bit weird to me that Rajputs were included in that. The Jains make sense, but the Rajputs were not really a single faith thing.
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Sep 8, 2018 11:01
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They require that the province is Hindu. It's to make Muslim rulers have to pick between Amir and Rajputs/Marathas and not just be able to blanket everything Rajputs and then convert them. Other option would have been to have the Rajputs disappear from the province when you convert which would most probably pissed people off more.
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Sep 8, 2018 11:05
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Ehhh, I don't think either of these solutions really capture what the Rajputs were, but gently caress it it's a videogame who cares it was very funny when I flipped Sikh and suddenly 65% of my nation was unconvertable. On a balance issue though, the trade off between Rajputs and Amirs is pretty simple with the way estates work now so that might need some tweaking imo. Hint: the answer is Rajputs every time, +5% discipline (with an option of 10%) and the other thing they do is no laughing matter. I think if you are Islamic then your Amirs would have the monarch point button, but honestly, the Rajputs are really good to the point where sub 1 monarch point a month ain't really worth it. It is almost on par in terms of power with the old policies for what it actually does for you. I have yet to test it because I was busy drowning in debt from all my provinces suddenly being wrong faith and unconvertable, but can you give Rajputs to Sikh provinces? Is it that they specifically need to be Hindu, or within the Dharmic religious group? eh; actually its a groogy post so disregard part 2. you made the thing, of course you know it means hindu when you say hindu. Another Person fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Sep 8, 2018 |
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Sep 8, 2018 11:19
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Yeah it's Hindu because it's the Rajput caste, and the Sikh faith is against the caste system. So to use the caste(the culture represents the people I guess? India is complicated) you need to have Hindu provinces. Even if there were Sikh Rajputs historically.
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Also for anyone who self-seeds their institutions all their institutions in the first year of them spawning like a god gamer who doesn't do this yet and is playing in India (why aren't you playing in India?): Please utilise and leverage your knowledge sharing. It is gross how much money you can make, especially when you sell it to Ming. I never use it much in European games because usually anyone worth selling to already has an institution that is hard to get (looking at you, event triggered printing press progress, ruining my chance to sell to France), but if you do it in India you make so much money. Also it makes it so that your allies are not useless sacks of poo poo in a war. Groogy posted:Yeah it's Hindu because it's the Rajput caste, and the Sikh faith is against the caste system. So to use the caste(the culture represents the people I guess?) you need to have Hindu provinces. Even if there were Sikh Rajputs historically. Reasonable enough to me. I was just flustered because I accidentally nation ruined my beautiful Nepalese nation.
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Having had no choice but to sign away most of their lands, the Ajami diplomats talked among themselves as they prepared to journey home to their nations newly minted capital of Kirmanshah. The Timurids were known to make these types of negotiations as humiliating as possible for the defeated, but this time they had just rushed through the formalities, without as much as a single mention of Timurid fighting prowess or superior cock sizes. And why had they demanded the meeting be conducted at night in a dimly lit, almost dark room? It had been hard to see what was being signed away. And hadn't Shah Rukh been unusually quiet at the negotiation table, almost lifeless? And where had that smell come from? They agreed it had indeed been a strange séance, but thought nothing more of it, what's done is done. As the sun rose they knew it was time to ride home: their time had come! 
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On the note of rulers dying, I had been meaning to suggest this for a while: It would be really cool if you got an event if you kill an enemy ruler in battle. I dunno how viable or practical that would be to make, but it would make for powerful and funny moments, especially in multiplayer. I don't really care if it gives prestige or a modifier (like a minor morale bonus or something), it is just a funny rub it in their face moment.
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Mantis42 posted:You know, The Dragon of Budapest, The Son of Moonraker, Cupholder of the Sacred Tit of Attilla, Gorkha! Sebastian Gorka, former Trump adviser, Hungarian Nazi, and complete buffoon. He is a "terrorism expert" with very dubious academic credentials that insists you call him DOCTOR GORKA. He's associated with the fascist Vitezi Rend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Vit%C3%A9z and loves to be on TV. He was an adviser to the Trump administration who would just sit around the White House on his laptop doing fuckall because he couldn't get a security clearance. All he did was go on TV and be a clown, eventually they realized he was worthless and booted him. Gorka is a meme in young American leftist circles because he's a ridiculous character and James Adomian does a really good impersonation of him. edit: he's basically a real-life racist/nationalist Paradox forums rant about EVIL KEBAB NOBLE SERBIA HUNGARY SUPREEM ARE SACRED CLAY Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Sep 8, 2018 |
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Sep 8, 2018 11:43
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Mantis42 posted:It's a missed opportunity to not have a cheevo for capturing Budapest as Gorkha. call it "the art of war"
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what country's a good start for a returning player?
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Level 3 trade centers are really good, because they give bonuses to every province in their state: -10% development costs and +30% institution spread. This is extremely good in states with lots of farmland, like for example northern India. You can cluster up your institution seeding provinces and have them spread very quickly.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:The only thing that pops to my head is Regency Council but its been months since I last played so I'm not sure if I am missing anything. Can you post a screenshot of the diplo interface? Here's the diplo interface, you can see my claim under the "cores and claims" bit:  and here's how I can't use that as a casus belli for some reason: 
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Have you unpaused? It takes a day for you to get the CB after getting the claim.
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Gort posted:Here's the diplo interface, you can see my claim under the "cores and claims" bit: Did you just now get the claim? You usually have to run a few days before the CB pops up.
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This is an old problem for me, but: what do you do when you bottom out your country? I started as Ethiopia, crushed the nearby rebels, took some provinces off my neighbors, beat the ensuing rebellion, but now I'm massively in debt, short on manpower, and have no army. Obviously it's best not to be in that place, but do you ever hit a point where you kinda have to twiddle your thumbs for a decade or more due to a shortage of manpower and money, and how do you climb out of that?
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James Garfield posted:Did you just now get the claim? You usually have to run a few days before the CB pops up. Aha! It was this. Loaded the game up, let it run until the end of the month, and the CB popped up. Cheers.
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StashAugustine posted:This is an old problem for me, but: what do you do when you bottom out your country? Ragequit, typically.
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To be clear, I'm pretty safe right now since everyone else is too small to take me on and I have decent allies and vassals, but I can't do anything offensively.
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StashAugustine posted:To be clear, I'm pretty safe right now since everyone else is too small to take me on and I have decent allies and vassals, but I can't do anything offensively. Everyone else is too small to take you on? That's great, you can wait to annex them. They allied to too many strong powers? You have a couple options. 1.) Identify weak ally/ally without other allies they have, declare on them instead. 2.) Wait until one of their allies fights a long war. This is boring, but guaranteed to work. 3.) Wait until you have favours with your allies, and then hell war hell WAR HELL WAR HELL WAR you can also burn a bunch of mana in your own provinces to grow in the meantime for 2 and 3
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If you have a really good monarch, you can get away with debasing your currency and getting rid of the corruption slowly (or not at all). Every 10 corruption is like having 5% less mana generation. Debasing your currency is sometimes a lot better than taking loans, because you aren't forced to pay to root out corruption immediately, which means that you can't fall into a debt spiral that way.
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Fister Roboto posted:If you have a really good monarch, you can get away with debasing your currency and getting rid of the corruption slowly (or not at all). Every 10 corruption is like having 5% less mana generation. Debasing your currency is sometimes a lot better than taking loans, because you aren't forced to pay to root out corruption immediately, which means that you can't fall into a debt spiral that way. If you're not spending a ton, debasing is literally free money if you have decent passive corruption reduction.
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 Well thats pretty cheap coring cost.
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Beamed posted:3.) Wait until you have favours with your allies, and then hell war hell WAR HELL WAR HELL WAR all my games are continual 30-years wars e: the game doesn't model the horrific damage the war of religion did on the HRE Nosfereefer fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Sep 8, 2018 |
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cheesetriangles posted:
Note though that the reduction is capped at -80% before the multiplicative reductions, otherwise it would only cost 0.2 power to core (which would round down to zero I think?).
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cheesetriangles posted:
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I think the tributary changes helped. Ming collapsed in the early 16th century during my Nepal game. Granted, it helped that they conquered a good chunk of Southeast Asia instead of harvesting tribute.
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