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I think the interesting thing is that for the poor, the next crash isn’t going to change their circumstances dramatically, they’re still poor and probably going to starve to death if they miss a pay check /get sick the real problem is going to be the indebted middle class with plenty of mortgage and credit card debt to sustain their lifestyle without years of pay rises now when they get hurt, I could imagine society will implode/ get facist
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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:Lot of family members and friends I know have never recovered to pre-recession levels of financial stability. I can't even imagine how disastrous another recession of that magnitude would be when even 10 years later so many people are still feeling the effects of the last recession. we're still in that recession, it didnt end
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Jel Shaker posted:I think the interesting thing is that for the poor, the next crash isn’t going to change their circumstances dramatically, they’re still poor you lack imagination Doorknob Slobber posted:I was also just thinking this last night. I think a crash is also like on peoples' minds I went to buy tacos yesterday and the people working there were talking about a housing market crash happening soon. its definitely one of those things where even if individuals don't know all the particulars, they see what they have, and they see what things cost, and double-take and go like "hey.... wait a minute" everyone's bracing, even if they don't know for what
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Sep 9, 2018 17:37
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mila kunis posted:we're still in that recession, it didnt end but everyone in tv says its over and the economys great
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Sep 9, 2018 17:41
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jimmyjams posted:but everyone in tv says its over and the economys great Yeah it's great for rent seeking and other ways of skimming money off of average workers. Great if you were rich enough to do a but in the 2008 crash for both stocks and also foreclosed homes like what Blackrock did in CA.
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Sep 9, 2018 17:42
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jimmyjams posted:but everyone in tv says its over and the economys great and they're correct if you want to say we're still in a recession you have to either plug your ears and cover your eyes or redefine "recession" so that it means something other than what it means (much like austrian economists and people in this thread want to redefine "inflation")
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Willie Tomg posted:its definitely one of those things where even if individuals don't know all the particulars, they see what they have, and they see what things cost, and double-take and go like "hey.... wait a minute" I think it'll be something like market crash housing values plummet mass layoffs millions declare bankruptcy banks collapse then either banks get bailed out or depression
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Sep 9, 2018 17:47
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rent takes like 35% of my after tax paycheck, i try to save a bit in the retarded hope that it'll mean something one day (it wont), contribute to the pension fund (it'll get raided) and whats left is...not a lot. still well off compared to my friends because im finally debt free since last year. dont have to extrapolate much to figure out how much of a drain on the economy it is to not have discretionary income to spend on actual stuff for an entire generation
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Sep 9, 2018 17:47
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Agronox posted:and they're correct fyi for the lurkers, agronox is the biggest retard in this thread and believes things like retail is just a temporary job instead of a permanent reality for the majority of the population
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Sep 9, 2018 17:49
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mila kunis posted:agronox is the biggest retard in this thread That's quite the high bar there, even if what you say he believes is true. EugeneJ posted:then either Porque no los dos
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mila kunis posted:fyi for the lurkers, agronox is the biggest retard in this thread and believes things like retail is just a temporary job instead of a permanent reality for the majority of the population sir just put your money into an index fund and watch it grow ignore what happened in 2008 and you will be so goddamn rich
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Sep 9, 2018 17:50
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Agronox posted:and they're correct you know better than to reference macroeconomic indicators when real wages have contracted for most americans while cost of living has exploded. this is basic political economy for gently caress's sake.
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the revolution: up against the wall binch, we have a full clip with your name on it agronox: um, actually, it's called a "magazine"
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Sep 9, 2018 17:57
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Agronox posted:and they're correct Whose perspective are you taking? (Normal people don't have enough in investments for investments to matter.)
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Is it possible he's just playing devil's advocate unnervingly well? It's a useful rhetorical device account of many people we love and or barely tolerate in real life just so happen to be that loving stupid, unironically, and don't see it as the life/death situation it all actually is. Also, anyone know what happened to Amergin? I enjoyed his Ted Cruz schtick once he threw off the shroud and admitted he was C+V'ing posts between SA and I think it was Freep or something?
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Tubgoat posted:That's quite the high bar there, even if what you say he believes is true. he is actually that stupid, enjoy: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3826121&pagenumber=548&perpage=40#post485927964
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gradenko_2000 posted:Last year, the Philippines passed a law granting free tuition to all State-run universities and colleges. lmao our loving ex-colony has a more reasonable education scheme than we do
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Is there a word for being able to easily discern between accidentally correct bad-faith takes and unironically-bad "good" faith takes? This forum is a philosopher/linguist's wet loving dream.  The post you linked definitely strikes me as the poster believing he's being ironic but what he describes is objective reality.
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Lawman 0 posted:lmao our loving ex-colony has a more reasonable education scheme than we do Taiwan based their system off the US medicare/medicaid system. But somehow sharing higher education or medical costs doesn't make sense. 
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mila kunis posted:he is actually that stupid, enjoy: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3826121&pagenumber=548&perpage=40#post485927964 ah i see, just an aggressively stupid and sheltered retard
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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:ah i see, just an aggressively stupid and sheltered retard In fairness, I was too. Now I'm just temporarily sheltered from the more heinous predations of Capital, while I struggle to find work that will remain preferable to suicide a week in.
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Tubgoat posted:Is there a word for being able to easily discern between accidentally correct bad-faith takes and unironically-bad "good" faith takes? This forum is a philosopher/linguist's wet loving dream. poe's law? kinda?
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Eh, it's more like the opposite on these forums, most posters I've seen employ sarcasm in a manner that allows a reasonably intelligent reader to discern their true intention from the post, often with smilies and conspicuously succ and/or fascist language. Dear god, I wish there was a way to distill all this poo poo into a loving book accessible to plebs such as parents and bosses. Lmfao at pissy teenagers being objectively correct this whole time.
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Goon Danton posted:gently caress no, pretty much my whole life, people talk about Criminals as essentially evil spirits, and prison is where we contain them. And of course they torture and take each other in there, they're evil spirits and that's what they do. askhaban was not fiction
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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:Lot of family members and friends I know have never recovered to pre-recession levels of financial stability. I can't even imagine how disastrous another recession of that magnitude would be when even 10 years later so many people are still feeling the effects of the last recession. I almost love/hate to say this, but my dad lost the family home in 08 to a reverse mortgage + working in the home construction industry. He was homeless until I graduated college and took him in with some of my stoner buddies in a big rental in Detroit, where he could be close to odd jobs he could do under the table for a rich rear end property owner guy he knew from his working days, and we didn't make him pay rent for two years until one of my friends moved out. When I told him I was giving a couple old ladies a ride to the DSA meeting this weekend he started yelling about "Socialism doesn't work" and "Enjoy your Stalin meeting" Murrica.
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Car Hater posted:I almost love/hate to say this, but my dad lost the family home in 08 to a reverse mortgage + working in the home construction industry. He was homeless until I graduated college and took him in with some of my stoner buddies in a big rental in Detroit, where he could be close to odd jobs he could do under the table for a rich rear end property owner guy he knew from his working days, and we didn't make him pay rent for two years until one of my friends moved out. lmao temporarily embarrassed millionaires
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Car Hater posted:he started yelling about "Socialism doesn't work" and "Enjoy your Stalin meeting" Do what my family does and threaten him with homelessness.
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got any sevens posted:askhaban was not fiction Sure it was, askhaban prisoners weren't being rented out as laborers
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i always thought agronox was trolling based on this post:Agronox posted:i don't think you're damning socialism to say that venezuela is hosed, you're just acknowledging reality its just so perfectly targeted to this thread that i couldnt imagine they were serious
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Edit oppps wrong thread
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So once the trade war is won, what is the likelihood that companies will lower prices that were raised during the conflict?
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Willie Tomg posted:the revolution: up against the wall binch, we have a full clip with your name on it
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I always post in earnest, particularly in this thread where there’s so much expertise as to make effective trolling impossible
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Sep 9, 2018 20:47
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sometimes being yourself is the best troll you can be
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Sep 9, 2018 20:49
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"I want a few people to be staggeringly rich and powerful, and all the negative externalities that come with it, but I don't wanna feel bad about it"
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Agronox posted:and they're correct god you are dumb
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You know somehow I doubt literally anyone who isn't enormously privileged can say poo poo like that in good faith I'd like to put ppl like agronox and the DnD clownshow into say, section 8 housing, or an amazon warehouse for a day and see if they can still spout their bullshit
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Sep 9, 2018 21:09
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Him and about half of everyone I know, buddy. 
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Agronox posted:I always post in earnest, particularly in this thread where there’s so much expertise as to make effective trolling impossible lmao that wasnt a troll you loving moron also all your "expertise" is in being a finance parasite so gently caress off and die binch
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