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uiru posted:Now I'm wondering if I should've played FFXIV. I mostly avoid MMOs these days, but DQXI is making me wish I could try DQX. Is FFXIV fun? Is it mechanically different from WoW? The core structure of FFXIV is similar to WoW, but it has significant mechanical differences (both in the pace of combat and in how dungeons and boss encounters are designed) that make it a very different game in practice. It still has the "target enemy and use skills from a hotbar" combat that WoW does, but with notably different class design and encounter design so it doesn't actually feel the same to play. It is also much, much more story-driven than WoW and does a much better job of making you feel like you're actually playing a significant character in the story. It's one of the few MMOs that I feel like can pull off setpieces well. The final boss of the Stormblood expansion actually felt like a legitimate Final Fantasy end boss, it's really impressive. The supporting characters and villains are generally pretty compelling, too. Oh, and the soundtrack kicks rear end. That said, fair warning: the game expects you to play its story in order, and the level 1-50 story (the base A Realm Reborn story) followed by the post-2.0 quests that lead up to the Heavensward expansion are very long and very slow-paced. It's a common criticism of the game and one that I think is very fair. Even if you pay for a level boost up to 60, you'll still have to play through the story quests in order unless you also pay for a story skip, which would unfortunately skip you right past Heavensward, which is so far the highlight of the game's storytelling so you really wouldn't want to skip it. That said, I should note that I introduced the game to a friend who really isn't super into MMOs last year and she loved it all the way from level 1, so not everyone feels quite so bogged down by the 1-50 story. (She did very nearly lose patience with the goddamn interminable pre-Heavensward quests, though, so fair warning there.)
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BrightWing posted:I see what you're doing with the mermaid speech patterns game and its really cool. If you somehow didn't like them, I'd say that you're a fool.
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Sep 10, 2018 18:24
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For anyone at the very end of the post-game, I noticed a potential mistranslation while watching a stream that might muck things up. You are supposed to use the sword of light (as in USE as an item) that you forge from a recipe reward for beating any of the trails in order to dispel the final final bosses' cloak, not simply use as in attack with it.
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Sep 10, 2018 18:45
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I need Colourful Cocoons for recipes, but nothing seems to drop it commonly and I can't find a resource node for it? The item description says it's found in Insula Centralis but...it isn't? Is this a post-game (which really should just be Act 3) thing?
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Sep 10, 2018 18:59
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Is there some timing trick for the forge? I don't feel like wasting my ore.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:15
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GrandpaPants posted:I need Colourful Cocoons for recipes, but nothing seems to drop it commonly and I can't find a resource node for it? The item description says it's found in Insula Centralis but...it isn't? Is this a post-game (which really should just be Act 3) thing? I found them off a tree in one of the flight locations, I think the one near the manglegrove.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:19
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Dr.Smasher posted:Is there some timing trick for the forge? I don't feel like wasting my ore. the only consequence for 'fail' is you can't rework it, so you still make the item. It's also easier to get items made well when you get flourishes that let you control it better
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Sep 10, 2018 19:20
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Sloober posted:the only consequence for 'fail' is you can't rework it, so you still make the item. I have a few that help like Lightning Bash. I love the rest of the game so far, except maybe for the synth soundtrack. Sylvando is fun.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:24
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A Sometimes Food posted:I found them off a tree in one of the flight locations, I think the one near the manglegrove. Oh dammit, I didn't realize that those were their own zones. ...welp time to explore some more.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:25
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Holy crap I've been stuck at 30k tokens at the casino for an hour now. The slot machines are not my friend.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:55
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Sloober posted:the only consequence for 'fail' is you can't rework it, so you still make the item. Only Failure I've had so far is my bunny suit (for the quest). I'm a little sad I won't be able to improve it though since it is still the best armor I have for Jade.
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Sep 10, 2018 19:56
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mauman posted:Only Failure I've had so far is my bunny suit (for the quest). i'd just make another one, it's not that tough to gather materials in the game if it's that important to get
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Sep 10, 2018 19:58
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mauman posted:Only Failure I've had so far is my bunny suit (for the quest). Making two star equipment is a weirdly big difficulty spike
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Sep 10, 2018 19:59
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Just had two normal enemies perform a Pep combo together. First time in the game I've seen that. Edit: Also found a 5 star difficulty smithing weapon, and oh boy is that gonna take some time and luck to +3. Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Sep 10, 2018 |
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Sep 10, 2018 20:07
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With harder monsters I was seeing that as early as chimera in the desert, in fact it resulted in a few wipes
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Sep 10, 2018 20:14
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They do that even on normal.
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Broken Cog posted:Just had two normal enemies perform a Pep combo together. First time in the game I've seen that. Yea anytime two enemies of the same type enter pep, they will do a pep combo. In hardmode where enemies stick around longer, it's more likely you'll see them enter Pep.
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Sep 10, 2018 20:29
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lets hang out posted:With harder monsters I was seeing that as early as chimera in the desert, in fact it resulted in a few wipes For hardmode Chimera, (and I'm sure the other variants) the Hymn of Fire resistance is good.
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Sep 10, 2018 20:29
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So uhh unless something drastic happens this is the best JRPG I've ever played.
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Sep 10, 2018 20:40
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I really do like that I can give my team generalized orders and just chill during regular mob fights. Given the sheer volume of mobs on the map, I can imagine having to micromanage every chaff fight would just get exhausting.
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Sep 10, 2018 20:40
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im so bad at horse racing but at least i managed to get the best reward
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Sep 10, 2018 21:38
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Sloober posted:i'd just make another one, it's not that tough to gather materials in the game if it's that important to get I have a feeling that I'll have access to better armor by the time I have the focus to be able to succeed.
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Sep 10, 2018 21:39
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man, metal slash is completely useless on hard mode. realistically the only way to kill any metal slimes but the basic version is crits.
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Sep 10, 2018 22:00
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:man, metal slash is completely useless on hard mode. realistically the only way to kill any metal slimes but the basic version is crits. I mean this has always been the case.
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Sep 10, 2018 22:22
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:man, metal slash is completely useless on hard mode. realistically the only way to kill any metal slimes but the basic version is crits. just use erik's auto crit skill.
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Sep 10, 2018 22:23
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Why is metal slash so bad? I was planning on making that my next skill for the MC and possibly Erik on his boomerang.
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Sep 10, 2018 22:31
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Kild posted:just use erik's auto crit skill. I wish I liked this skill more, but it doesn't seem to take into account dual wield (or Falcon Blades, but that's sadly par for the course), so it doesn't do that much more damage barring stuff like metal slimes. I wish more of his skills actually comboed with his stuff, but since they don't, Erik has been condemned to just using Attack and Divide against a boss, which puts him in a weird spot since Dual Wield Falcon Blades is the best standard Attack in the game, supplemented by Erik's INSANE attack bonuses for Swords (+85 I think?), but it then just obsoletes all of his actual attack skills, including Auto Crit. Which means round to round, I think Jade does more damage with Hardclaw (3x damage) or whatever that 7x attack is (total 3.5x damage), although she doesn't heal from that, which is surprisingly handy during boss fights! I'm also not sure if the 7x attack benefits from Crit Rate bonuses from Claw like Hardclaw does, where it's super satisfying to do a triple crit. ate poo poo on live tv posted:Why is metal slash so bad? I was planning on making that my next skill for the MC and possibly Erik on his boomerang. Metal slimes get more hit points later. So while it's nice to have a consistent 1-2 points of damage, it's still more reliable to use a crit ability like Thunder Thrust or whatever Erik's is called.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Why is metal slash so bad? I was planning on making that my next skill for the MC and possibly Erik on his boomerang. It's just a guaranteed hit for 2 damage. When the metal slimes start getting 20+ hp, you're better off gambling on one of the auto-crit skills, as they will always one-shot them.
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Sep 10, 2018 22:41
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Also, I think (spoilers for Nhou Wat area) Dora-In-grey might be my new favorite dragon quest pun 
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Sep 10, 2018 22:57
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Are the auto crit skills you're talking about the ones with descriptions like "doesn't hit very often but when it does watch out"
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Sep 10, 2018 22:58
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lets hang out posted:Are the auto crit skills you're talking about the ones with descriptions like "doesn't hit very often but when it does watch out" Erik’s specifically doesn’t have the bad accuracy but it does have a suitably high MP cost.
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Sep 10, 2018 23:00
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lets hang out posted:Are the auto crit skills you're talking about the ones with descriptions like "doesn't hit very often but when it does watch out" Yeah, Hatchet Man for axes and Thunder Thrust for spears are the two most commonly used. Then there's also Erik's unique skill. Edit: Someone had way too much fun doing the writing for Phnom Nonh.
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Sep 10, 2018 23:02
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Shugojin posted:Also, I think (spoilers for Nhou Wat area) Dora-In-grey might be my new favorite dragon quest pun I have to admit, I groaned loud and long at that one. I didn't see it coming.
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Sep 10, 2018 23:08
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Wow, the Happy Hat works even if you're auto-running into a corner. Solves Sylvando's MP problem real early.
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Broken Cog posted:It's just a guaranteed hit for 2 damage. When the metal slimes start getting 20+ hp, you're better off gambling on one of the auto-crit skills, as they will always one-shot them. That's...underwhelming. I guess it's fine for Metal Slimes though which is what I'm currently farming in preparation for the deadly digger thing. Also trying to get the timing right for the Wild Side combo.
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Sep 10, 2018 23:22
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:That's...underwhelming. I guess it's fine for Metal Slimes though which is what I'm currently farming in preparation for the deadly digger thing. Also trying to get the timing right for the Wild Side combo. Yeah, it's fine for metal slimes and metabbles, it's very much an early game skill.
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Sep 10, 2018 23:36
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Thanks for the heads up, Metal Slash was going to be next skill, but I got two slimes by accident in Gallopolis so I'll probably pass. What are people enjoying with Sylvando? I've had him with whips to keep him different and it seems fine on paper at least, need to start working on his unique tree. Sylvando owns as a character though, it can't be said enough. I usually organize my jrpg parties by who I think is cool rather than usefulness so uhhhh sorry Serena
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Sep 10, 2018 23:49
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Can someone tell me where the (item spoiler) Bad Axe was? I'm really hoping it wasn't in the final dungeon, but I thought I scoured that pretty completely...My last guess is that it was one of the Angri-La prizes, but I don't have access to it at the moment, and it's the one evolution item that I can't account for but I would like to use in the future. I'm also kinda impressed (Post-game spoilers) that they managed to preserve the game/world state for this, as if it just reloaded a save or something.
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Expect My Mom posted:Thanks for the heads up, Metal Slash was going to be next skill, but I got two slimes by accident in Gallopolis so I'll probably pass. Sylvando’s weird because he has sky-high strength but is best used as support. I used whips, which he can use pretty effectively but I’m thinking of respecing him to his two personal skill sets and giving him a shield and whatever sword/dagger gives the biggest charm boost. Hustle Dance should not be obtainable that early, what a madman.
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GrandpaPants posted:Can someone tell me where the (item spoiler) Bad Axe was? I'm really hoping it wasn't in the final dungeon, but I thought I scoured that pretty completely...My last guess is that it was one of the Angri-La prizes, but I don't have access to it at the moment, and it's the one evolution item that I can't account for but I would like to use in the future. It was in Battleground. For my own question, since you seem to be further ahead than me, where can you find the other part for Erik's pirate costume? You get the hat from the boss fight in the gold place, but idk where the coat is.
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