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LinYutang posted:Why do the dems need a slogan The Tea Party had an enormous amount of money.
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EugeneJ posted:Joe Rogan had Tulsi Gabbard on to talk about how DNC rigged the 2016 election against Bernie the media already confirmed that a candidate literally buying the dnc during the primaries doesn't count as rigging
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good thread on some peak Ezra succ https://twitter.com/larryglickman/status/1039490052282306561?s=21
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comedyblissoption posted:yah they only supported the dems b/c they were more racist than the republicans. scathing analysis from inside the succ zone thinkin bout that Southern Strategy
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Sep 11, 2018 17:48
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Nazis are bad.
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Sep 11, 2018 17:49
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did you know that the parties changed over time when the Dems used to be the hick racist south party and the Republicans the opposite
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logikv9 posted:did you know that the parties changed over time when the Dems used to be the hick racist south party and the Republicans the opposite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHdXQAQHjd8
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docbeard posted:More money for us. Decorum you.
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Sep 11, 2018 17:53
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the dems historic control of government for like half a century and taking it away from a peak of republican dominance would not have happened if their platform was only we're more racist than the other guys
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:McCain 100% beats Hillary. She lost to Donald Trump. McCain was running as The War Guy in 2008, which is already a nigh-insurmountable burden, and a HRC campaign trying to replace Bush wouldn't have branded itself as "just like the last 8 years, which you loved, right? right????? No improvements particularly come to mind, just smooooooooooooth sailing!!!" She probably would have won and then lost to Romney.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:02
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Dems are going to win the house (and maybe even the senate) this election but only because everyone is pissed at trump and not because they have done any meaningful campaigning When the Dems predictably won't do anything meaningful to stop Trump's (or the GOP's) agenda I think a lot more people in the party are going to start seeing the establishment as a liability Basically the dem presidential primaries are going to be loving wild
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Sep 11, 2018 18:04
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Feldegast42 posted:Dems are going to win the house (and maybe even the senate) this election but only because everyone is pissed at trump and not because they have done any meaningful campaigning did the superdelegates thing actually pass? do they have normal primaries now?
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Sep 11, 2018 18:06
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Addamere posted:did the superdelegates thing actually pass? do they have normal primaries now? Basically the superdelegates are still around but the vote a lot later so they can't toss their weight in and say ah but so and so has momentum
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Sep 11, 2018 18:11
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Agean90 posted:Basically the superdelegates are still around but the vote a lot later so they can't toss their weight in and say ah but so and so has momentum but they still get to decide who wins?  also what exactly stops them from tossing their weight in? do i now get to look forward to a bunch of EXCLUSIVE BREAKING NEWS LEAKS about what some guy in delaware's butler told a reporter his master is planning to vote?
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Sep 11, 2018 18:12
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logikv9 posted:love 2 idealize the states who definitely only voted for Strong New Deal Policies for decades vs whomever pandered to their racism at the time I'd blame HR Clinton breaking your brain, but she can't actually do anything, so what's your excuse?
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Sep 11, 2018 18:14
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Feldegast42 posted:Dems are going to win the house (and maybe even the senate) this election but only because everyone is pissed at trump and not because they have done any meaningful campaigning theres not a chance they win the senate. there's only like 6 or 7 republican seats up compared to 25ish for the dems. not only that, but several of those seats are in red states.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:14
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the hits still keep comin https://twitter.com/salazarsenate18/status/1039542597411373056?s=21
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:the hits still keep comin jfc running a hit piece on a woman for being a victim of sexual assault. how loving low can u go
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comedyblissoption posted:the dems historic control of government for like half a century and taking it away from a peak of republican dominance would not have happened if their platform was only we're more racist than the other guys what years exactly are you talking about because i might have an answer
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Addamere posted:but they still get to decide who wins? Possibly, but if there's a candidate that's clearly in the lead and the super delegates want to reverse that it'll he obvious what they're doing, which would make their loss in the general certain as people turn away in disgust. Not ideal, but baby steps i guess, plus their tears from this minor inconvenience we're great.
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really queer Christmas posted:jfc well, actually  (the hit piece will be that she said something bad about israel)
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Sep 11, 2018 18:21
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Agean90 posted:Possibly, but if there's a candidate that's clearly in the lead and the super delegates want to reverse that it'll he obvious what they're doing, which would make their loss in the general certain as people turn away in disgust. how was it not already super obvious? every chart i remember anyone posting showed superdelegates as a separate component of the total are democrats hoping to  each other into behaving nice?cos i mean that has worked so well with the republicans
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Sep 11, 2018 18:23
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I think the superdelagates just can't vote in the first round of voting at the convention. If it goes to a second round because someone can't get a clear majority in the first then they can do whatever the gently caress they want.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:I think the superdelagates just can't vote in the first round of voting at the convention. If it goes to a second round because someone can't get a clear majority in the first then they can do whatever the gently caress they want. so there is not even a gag rule to nominally prevent the superdelegates from declaring their allegiance beforehand? lmao how incredibly pointless, 
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:Indeed there is racism which is why we should not try to help anyone ever and just sit back and let capitalism crush and divide us, but at least we can be smug libs about it. Agean90 posted:Basically the superdelegates are still around but the vote a lot later so they can't toss their weight in and say ah but so and so has momentum Addamere posted:but they still get to decide who wins?
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really queer Christmas posted:jfc if she was a real jew who supported israel she would have let dear leader bibi's lackey gently caress her
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Sep 11, 2018 18:39
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The superdelegates' power lies entirely in how big a deal the media decides to make of them, but that was also technically true before It's just harder to justify making a big deal out of them now (but I'm sure at least some media will still do it)
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Feldegast42 posted:When the Dems predictably won't do anything meaningful to stop Trump's (or the GOP's) agenda I think a lot more people in the party are going to start seeing the establishment as a liability When Trump wins re-election, a lot of brains are going to break.
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Nothus posted:When Trump wins re-election, a lot of brains are going to break. not mine, i have already accepted the inevitability
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loquacius posted:The superdelegates' power lies entirely in how big a deal the media decides to make of them, but that was also technically true before Addamere posted:not mine, i have already accepted the inevitability  ever since donnie won.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:That's exactly why I'm completely unimpressed by the "Superdelegates don't vote in the first round" half-measure. I will be surprised if the media treats superdelegates any differently or stops reporting on how they're probably going to vote.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:45
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Donna Brazile having that public meltdown about her power being stripped away from her makes a lot more sense in the context where moving superdelegates to the second ballot was a completely meaningless misdirection, come to think of it, because it would lull reform advocates into a false sense of victory and keep us from demanding superdelegates be eliminated entirely
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Sep 11, 2018 18:48
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loquacius posted:Donna Brazile having that public meltdown about her power being stripped away from her makes a lot more sense in the context where moving superdelegates to the second ballot was a completely meaningless misdirection, come to think of it, because it would lull reform advocates into a false sense of victory and keep us from demanding superdelegates be eliminated entirely My thoughts exactly. If it was a serious that to their power, or an actual change or reform, they'd still be fighting it tooth and nail. Instead, we got a couple cries of foul, them nothing. If the party leadership isn't fighting it, it's not going to actually change anything. Son of Thunderbeast fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 11, 2018 |
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that was a meltdown? I thought donna was just trying to post in BSS
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loquacius posted:Donna Brazile having that public meltdown about her power being stripped away from her makes a lot more sense in the context where moving superdelegates to the second ballot was a completely meaningless misdirection, come to think of it, because it would lull reform advocates into a false sense of victory and keep us from demanding superdelegates be eliminated entirely when i think about effective rhetorical legerdemain that, seldonesque, steers public opinion, i think donna brazile
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*donna brazile, steepling her fingers as the left reacts precisely as she anticipated* checkmate bernailures
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Sep 11, 2018 18:55
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:That's exactly why I'm completely unimpressed by the "Superdelegates don't vote in the first round" half-measure. I will be surprised if the media treats superdelegates any differently or stops reporting on how they're probably going to vote. Has there ever been a ballot that hasn't been settled in the first round? I'm not saying they wouldn't still try to rig it, but they'd have to get more creative about it besides just whipping super delegate votes.
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Not recently, but with a 20 candidate shitshow brewing, it's likely the 2020 convention will need more than one ballot.
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The Little Kielbasa posted:The Tea Party had an enormous amount of money. So did Hillary Rodham Clinton Tea party had true believers and organization is the difference
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